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Is it possible to include the forensic sketch too and prompt it by saying "This is a forensic sketch of the alien creature, corroborated by over five eye-witnesses"? It might make it even more realistic in addition to all of the information you already gave it.

Exactly what I thought, the explanation is plain ridiculous, and it is just hard to disbelieve these alien stories now, especially the ones with many witnesses with stories that align...

So it was a homeless dude and a couple with dwarfism lol

This is what wikipedia says about this alien case: "An official inquiry led by the Brazilian military concluded in 2010 that the young women had encountered a homeless, mentally unstable man nicknamed "Mudinho." The Commander of 24th Police Battalion Military "presented photographs (...) a citizen known as Mudinho, who probably has some mental disability and whose physical characteristics matched the description (...) make it likely that the hypothesis that this citizen, probably being dirty, due to the heavy rains and seen crouching by a wall, was mistaken by the three terrified girls as a space creature." The head of the official inquiry reported that the military trucks and personnel were performing routine duties on the night they were observed, stating, "the presence of the Firefighters in Jardim Andere, the parking of Army trucks in the vicinity of the concessionaire where their periodic maintenance would be carried out ... and the departure of EsSA vehicles ... were real facts ... incorrectly interpreted as Firefighters and the Military participating in the capture and later the transport of the alleged creature to Campinas."[6] The Brazilian authorities also reported that the aliens allegedly seen in a hospital were actually an expectant couple who had dwarfism.[7] Skeptic Brian Dunning criticized sensational media accounts and ufologists' claims. According to Dunning, "It is the most compelling example of a case where literally nothing at all happened that was remotely unusual, and was magnified into a case considered unassailable proof of alien visitation by many. To those believers, I would suggest recalibrating where you set the bar for quality of evidence"

After graduating from college, I came face-to-face with the full scale of my traumas, which I had been unwittingly carrying all along. To be precise, it was then that I became acutely aware of the depth and impact of these traumas in my life. They were always present, subtly influencing my everyday experiences. My upbringing was exceptionally harsh, encompassing a spectrum of abuse: physical, mental, sexual, emotional, and spiritual. During college, I even underwent reconstructive surgeries, an expensive and challenging ordeal, and grappled with severe anxiety and paralyzing fears. My personal relationships were fraught with difficulties, as I continually found myself in the company of narcissists who exploited and manipulated me. To illustrate, my college years were marked by frequent anxiety attacks. I often found refuge in bathroom stalls, where I could have a breakdown in privacy. Simple tasks like getting off a bus would trigger intense anxiety. In summary, my life felt stifling and restricted. Socially, I was isolated; the few friends I had were also deeply traumatized. My romantic life was non-existent, and my fears were so crippling that they overshadowed many aspects of my college experience. In a desperate search for change, I turned to kriya yoga during my college years. This marked the beginning of my transformative journey. I immersed myself in various teachings, devouring over 200 books and dedicating thousands of hours to meditation. Yet, despite these efforts, I remained deeply affected by my past traumas. After college, I set aside my career ambitions and devoted myself to healing and spirituality. This shift was possible thanks to a scholarship I had received and my decision to go on welfare. My quest for healing was comprehensive; I explored numerous approaches like IFS, CBT, talk therapy, inner-child work, and more. I also became deeply invested in spiritual growth, dedicating countless hours to meditation and following over 30 spiritual teachers, with Leo, Spira, Sadhguru, and Ralston among my favorites. However, much of the change I experienced felt superficial. I've noticed that many people, perhaps like those on this forum, focus excessively on spirituality and trauma healing at the expense of their careers. In my view, if you don't address your traumas to a certain extent, your career goals can end up being mere reflections of those unhealed wounds. This was certainly true for me; as an extreme perfectionist, my ambitions lacked authenticity. It was only after addressing and healing many of these inner wounds that I gained real clarity. My initial goals were unrealistic compensations for my traumas, such as earning multiple black belts or achieving an ideal physique or becoming a millionaire. Thus, my intense focus on spirituality and healing post-college was not just necessary but critical for my personal development. I don't believe that I started life in reverse by prioritizing healing over career. Had I not taken this path, I would have continued to be deeply troubled and would have continue to pursue the wind. Another key insight I've gained is that most trauma healing methods only scratch the surface; they bring about some improvement but lack the depth for radical transformation. Techniques like affirmations and nurturing your inner child are beneficial, but they often fall short of facilitating profound change. A blend of deep contemplation and spiritual work, in my experience, yields the most significant results. From the vast array of books I've read, Ralston's trilogy and Dr. Hawkins' "Surrender" stand out as particularly impactful, though I acknowledge my bias as they greatly aided my healing journey. An essential practice for me has been "Bottom-line contemplation." This involves staying present with each emotion that arises, such as hurt, and then moving through subsequent emotions like anger, until a deeper layer is revealed. This process continues until you reach the core belief or 'bottom line'. This method doesn't follow a predictable pattern and can lead to unexpected core beliefs. For instance, you might discover a deep-seated belief of unworthiness. Discarding such a belief is akin to shedding a part of oneself. IT IS A FORM OF DEATH. This journey to the bottom line is arduous and confronting, but it is the only way to truly shake the foundations of your being and facilitate genuine change. In contrast, practices like affirmations can feel like mere band-aids, as they often don't address the root issue. After years of exploring various healing methods, I've found bottom-line contemplation to be the most effective. It's challenging, requiring focus, discipline, and bravery to confront the core beliefs that define us, but it's also the path to true transformation. The purpose for this post is two-fold. 1) For those of you who were forced to prioritize healing and spirituality over career at a young age, don't fret, it is worth it. I just turned 24 and after three years of profound spiritual and trauma work, I am getting my finances and career back on track, I am actually starting with a finance job which isn't ideal but it is a starting point and I will work from here! My life is a lot lighter, and now I really don't care what people think, I am disinterested by competition and comparison. The need for validation, approval or love externally has significantly fallen away and this is a powerful place to be in. 2) It is vital to heal trauma but make sure that what you are doing is working. There are a lot of traps, positive thinking, useless therapists and superficial work in general for example standing in a mirror and shouting "I love you", when you don't love yourself. Just based on my experience and after reading extensively into the matter, bottom-line contemplation is the most powerful method I have come across, there is no escape, you are going to go into the heart of your pain. This is going to be terrifying, induce some level of ego death, and be emotionally laborious. So go slowly, be kind to yourself and don't rush this process, if your bottom-line discoveries are too shocking and unbearable, take a step back and use traditional therapeutic techniques to soothe yourself. Would love to here your thoughts on all of this!

I think it depends on how you look at things. If there is a trauma to the body, for example a cut, there is a process of healing that takes time, white blood cells respond, platelets get together and coagulate etc... but we are talking about trauma as it relates to the mind or ego. The ego is the one that is traumatized because it interpreted an event in a certain way and then a belief regarding itself was internalized e.g. I am not lovable, I am not worthy, I am not capable... It can relate to the world too e.g. the world is a dangerous place, people are dishonest, women are bad... and that source beliefs leads to countless manipulations, emotions and so on. There is definitely a process of surrender as you work your way back and this is an example of a chain; partner says something nasty --> anger --> hurt --> loneliness --> a source belief that one is unlovable. If you clip the root which is that you are unlovable, the manipulations, emotions, reactions, triggers associated with that particular belief will fall way creating a new sense of freedom and openness. I don't think (in my experience it has been like this) that the "negative" beliefs have to be replaced with anything else... it is more like a deconstructing process because worthiness, being capable, lovable and so on seem to be intrinsic aspects of life. This definitely requires repeated hits on the bottom-line through contemplation but it is not the same as a physical wound healing. The idea of healing as a process taking time as it relates to the body may be superimposed onto healing in the mind, and while they seem similar it is not exactly the same. In my experience if you do have trauma you live IN and AS that trauma and any spiritual investigation is also done through that lens. So if you say to yourself "I AM FREE OF TRAUMA", it is a bit like saying "I LOVE MYSELF" - even though you don't. It is just a pretense then, you are adopting another idea or condition on top that is compensatory but not deal with the issue at the source. In essence, trauma works seems to be deconstructing a dysfunctional ego and replacing it with a functional one for optimal survival, relationships etc... Giving up stories is powerful, but of course if your raise your consciousness, the past, future, stories, traumas, they are all gone, the question is can you stay at that heightened level of consciousness? What does it take? Lots of yoga? tripping? I don't know but in the mean time this particular bottom line method works quite well. Other things like IFS, CBT also work but the changes seem to be superficial.

@Rafael Thundercat Agreed, I heard this quote by Sadhguru "When unpleasant things happen in our lives, we can become either wise or wounded – that is our choice."

@CARDOZZO I agree with you on this one billion percent. Being a perfectionist myself, I can fall victim to this. I also don't know if it is possible to be completely healed but I think it is important to be significantly healed if you have a lot of trauma. Trauma creates a lot of dysfunctional beliefs that limits one's experience of life. If you do heal significantly, you can expect more honesty, deeper relationships, more intimacy, better communication. Even when it comes to dating, healing is important, you are afraid to approach a hot girl not just because she is hot or that you lack confidence, it is because of deeply held dysfunctional beliefs. This was one of my biggest breakthroughs since I had a lot of trauma related to my mother. If you no longer think that you are incapable, broken or unworthy, you no longer need validation or approval nor do you fear rejection. If that is the case, what is the problem with approaching a woman? There is no problem. But healing can definitely be a trap for example waiting to take action until you are "fully healed" or having an ideal of being perfectly healed which is definitely part of the trauma! I think the key is significant healing -not infinite healing

@Breakingthewall Thank you!

@gettoefl It is not about being the victim, it is about taking responsibility. On forgiveness, I disagree so much with this. This is how you can make a distinction between a good therapist and a bad one, initially if they talk about forgiveness, then run. But if they start with anger and setting boundaries, this is good. Premature forgiveness is a trap, a people-pleaser, caretaker or whatever other roles one is sucked into needs to learn to access their anger so that they can better learn to set boundaries. Imagine a victim of narcissistic abuse that has just gotten away from their abuser. You don't tell them about God, or forgiveness, you teach them how to access their anger and use it to set boundaries going forward, this will help break the cycle. This is the same as telling a starving person to just get enlightened, they want food not your enlightenment. Healing is fundamental to growth. And to your statement, "you are a vehicle through which heaven can be inhabited today", is heaven inhabited within you today? I have yet to meet someone who talks about instant enlightenment and freedom that is ACTUALLY enlightened or free or someone that achieved it instantly. The only story I recall on this is Ramana Maharshi's and also Viktor Frankyl's story but this simply does not apply to the general population. Healing, awakening and increasing consciousness takes time. It is a process and to teach people otherwise is to deprive them access to their immediate experience which is not heaven.

@Cocolove I heard Sadhguru talk about it, someone asked him about breath work and all I remember him saying is that if it is hyperventilating - don't do it as it will damage the system, the breaths are very gross whereas kriyas even where the breath is rapid is about subtlety. I do his kriya every morning for the past few years with astonishing benefits. To add a bit of flare, I decided to bring back wim hof because I used to do it a long time ago but I just got very serious headaches because of it. I am not sure though, not an expert on the matter. What kind of kriyas do you do?

Recently I have quit my job. I have saved a nice amount of money - over $15,000. I am 22 years old and I am looking around now for new jobs but first I would like to take a few months off to do some soul-searching and spiritual work. I have been going to psychotherapy, healing traumas, doing my kriyas for the last two years, following Leo and so on but I am looking for something a bit more. I was thinking of flying out to the Isha Foundation in India to spend some time in the ashram. Flying out from Ireland, this will cost in the region of $2000 and of course that is a major investment. I'm just not sure if this will be worthwhile. My goals is to go and deepen my spiritual practices but I don't want to go over there and engage in spiritual bullshit. I mean I could go to Dubai or Vegas or Thailand and have the adventure of a lifetime. I'm just not sure if it will be worth it. I could also buy a lot of psychedelics for 2k ;). Has anyone been to the ashram and do you think that it is worth it? Do you guys think it is worth it in general? More specifically would it be worth it to deepen my spiritual understanding and make some progress in terms of my life purpose? Thanks in advance guys

Been doing a lot of kriya too, I tried a wim hof but its causing serious headaches, I have been told that hyperventilating is counter-productive to kriya? What are your thoughts?

I did not watch the videos but I am 24 and this applies to me although this is a double-edged sword. I went to college on scholarship (came from a very poor family), graduated in a hard science from a top 50 university (global) and secured a job with Abbott's Laboratories, I was making a lot of money, up to 80k euros as a 21 year old. I was deeply traumatized and already very spiritual. It got to a point where I just walked out of the job, I lived at home so I stashed up a lot of cash and lived off it until now almost 24. During my time off, I did 1000s of hours of meditation, kriya yoga, went to trauma retreats, spiritual retreats, took some psychedelics, and completely transformed my life, I also read 100s of books, traveled a lot and it was a great experience. But now, I am almost 24 and almost out of money. I am trying to apply jobs but my experience is old and I may have to go and work a 'normal' job. I don't want to go back into the pharmaceutical world, I know it won't make me happy but anyways it seems like they won't take me back. Maybe I could have saved more money, sorted my career first etc... but my trauma was so extreme and so deep. There was enmeshment, complex trauma, a lack of proper self-identity and so on that I did not know who I was, so this three year off work changed my life. Just doing 2000 hours of kriya yoga was immense. But now, I am in a financial position that is tough. So it is not that simple. I could also have focused my energies on a business but without intense healing, it would definitely have been a heap of shit and inauthentic. This stuff seems quite tricky, if I didn't do this transformation work full-time, it could have taken 10 years just to do as much as I did, on the other hand, if I did it slowly, I would own an apartment now but would have been very unhappy. I think the way I did it was best but now I have to start making that dolla. Maybe I was lost in fantasy or maybe I wasn't. I am not sure. There is also that whole world of manifestation in the spiritual world, where people talk so much shit about free money, and so on. I think that is pretty delusional. I am beginning to learn more about life purpose, financial stability and so on now. Any recommendations for books or mentors?

Man this is awesome, I am having a very similar experience, thanks for sharin!

Damn, sorry guys sometimes I can't help it and that inner marketer just comes out. Now that I have your attention, I was seeking some advice about life in general and spirituality. There are a lot of things I am trying to make sense of but struggling with and I would greatly value your input. (P.S I put the text through ChatGPT but only to make it a clearer as my writing was all over the place). I've been pondering the whole deal about spiritual teachers and authority. So, I tried this thing that you might wanna check out too. I went on a YouTube marathon, checking out different teachers - some super advanced like Krishnamurti, Ram Dass, Mooji, Sadhguru, Ralston, and more. Then, I lurked around some 'stage green' friends (can't stand them for some reason) and even went through the comments of other YouTubers delving into the black pill and red pill stuff, and also random folks. What hit me was kinda disappointing: loads of what I call 'meatriders' in the comments. The top comments were often just blindly praising these folks, whether it was about someone like Tristan Tate talking nonsense or glorifying Sadhguru as the ultimate yogi. Made me think about the risk of blindly following these teachers and groups. It also made me question my own judgment and everybody else's. So, in my own life, following Sadhguru and his yoga has brought amazing changes. It's seriously been life-altering for me. But to fully get into his teachings, I had to trust him in a kind of delusional way. He made certain Yantras, and I accessed them directly through some delusional devotional practices. Felt like I was becoming one of those people in the comments I've been critical of. But even though it felt weird, I gained a lot from these practices. Here's the thing: if I hadn't put that level of trust in his teachings, I doubt I would've made as much progress. But then again, most teachers, like Leo, push for having no authority and seeking absolute understanding yourself while maintaining strong skepticism. So, how do I make sense of these two ideas? It's a tricky one because there are legit teachers and, well, not-so-legit ones, so it requires caution. But how do I tell the difference? And now that I've found success with Sadhguru's teachings, can I keep going and reach the deepest levels of consciousness? Trust is important here, if I did not trust Sadhguru, I would not have transformed, anytime I brought in my logical mind to contemplate, there was a reduction in efficacy especially in the devotional practices and Yantras. At the same time, this level of trust is blind, it really is and I wonder would it become inhibitory as I continue? All input welcome!!

@OBEler Honestly bro, I am going to be the biggest promoter of inner engineering on this planet, I made a post on it in the kriya yoga mega thread and you can easily find it from my profile, but I did shambhavi mahamudra very intensely for three years and it changed my life. I am still struggling with absolute truths but in terms of survival, experiencing positive emotions, being healthy and so on, it is a god send. With that said, some people practiced for two years and experienced jack shit in terms of changes, my brother learned it and dropped it after 6 months as it didn't do anything for him. A few things 1) I continued spiritual work and contemplation aside from that. 2) I was big on Dr Hawkins and maybe this is excessive but I read his book Surrender 15 times. 3) I also followed Peter Ralston very closely including emailing him a lot to which he always responded. I applied his principles of mastery to the kriya. 4) I was just so fucking intense man, I used to be very sick and I wanted to get better and I started shambhavi at 21, I am 24 now and really, it has utterly transformed my life, I think I just approached it very intensely doing it up to three sometimes four times a day. 5) My whole life revolve arounds spirituality from the second I wake up to the second I go to sleep. I constantly listen to Krishnamurti, Leo, Mooji, Gangaji, Ram Dass, Ralston, ESPECIALLY Rupert Spira, the list goes on, and I am always contemplating. I dont have direct experience into absolutes BUT i am a very peaceful and joyful person, and my life is optimised, my body is fluid, I dont overthink or experience much fear or anxiety... I have done a lot of work on baseline hence no massive breakthroughs but even my state as I write this is amazing, i feel fucking amazing. I am extremely grateful for this kriya and recommend it for you. I do think the results that I got are not to be expected because most people I speak to just lose a little weight or they quit smoking or something, at the same time, they are not intense people just wishy washy, the most important thing that I brought to the table was intensity. [This is something that took me a long time to get but SUBTLENESS IS EVERYTHING. Being subtle is key, in breath, attention, everything, gross movements and breathing without control are really going to limit you, being subtle is extremely important and this is what allowed me to start seeing auras although I didn't waste time developing it, the subtleness made my senses astonishingly sensitive.]

@Razard86 Damn bro, I appreciate your perspective, that was very insightful and yes at a deep level, I have recognised that I don't grasp that Absolute Truth which is causing a lot of confusion.

failed dropshipper

Not as many people as I wanted

I posed this a while ago and someone may see this and find this useful. I continued with my practices and by God is it incredible, all of the previous health benefits remain and maybe I am sleeping and eating even less but something much deeper is happening, I am finding that I am becoming more and more empty and as I become more empty, I am becoming more joyful and filling up with love. All I am doing is Sadhguru's yoga but I have done it so fucking religiously for years while continuing with Leo's work, Ralston's work etc... Man this shit is insane, I could never have imagined this, I have gone from the post pathetic emotional states to so much joy and peace. The word joy is not strong enough and it lasts all fucking day! I don't about these seratonin and dopamine channels and how they need to be reset... doesn't matter to me anyways because this shit is incredible. Again, I don't equate any of this with awakening but by God does kriya yoga make your life vibrant, I feel incredible! So if anyone is still considering doing kriya yoga, just do it man, but real transformation is going to take 1000s of hours of practice and just sheer fucking intensity. I was also doing very serious contemplation and tripping from time to time on the side so it was a holistic development but it is clear to me that the kriya yoga was the key transforming agent. It just makes life worth living, sharp senses, joy, peace, less shitting, sleeping, fucking, eating and so on. Brain is much sharper and all of your other work is enhanced!

It is really crazy, I downloaded TikTok and was using it for a while, naturally the spiritual stuff started to come up. Every second dude was claiming to be enlightened talking shit about some ascension bullshit, being a starseed, tarot, conspiracies blahblahblah..... I almost went retarded watching this stuff. Although Leo claims they are not awake, the value of the traditional teachers such as Mooki, Ekhart Tolle, Ralston, Ram Dass etc.. simply cannot be understated because they are not stage green idiots claiming to be enlightened.

So I asked Peter about pyschedelics and this is what he shared with me. Let me know your thoughts. "I can’t speak authoritatively about other teachers and what they think. I can say that psychedelics do not lead to enlightenment. I’m afraid that is just a mistake born of having had moving experiences and dramatically unusual changes of state. But chemicals and altering the brain can’t produce enlightenment. Because such consciousness is direct. That means there is no process, it is your true nature being conscious of your true nature. No experience, and no chemical can do that, since the only thing that can be done to the brain is to alter its activity, and so change your state. No state is direct consciousness, it is only a state, no matter how grand or exciting or mind blowing it is. No perceptive-experience is enlightenment and psychedelics are chemicals that act on the brain, this can only change what the brain does, and so can create perceptive states or altered states of mind. This is not enlightenment no matter how much people want it to be. You may wonder how do I know psychedelics can’t produce enlightenment. Hard to communicate, but it's very clear to me. It’s not that I haven’t done them, lots of them. After all I was a young man in the late 60’s and early 70’s in the San Francisco Bay Area, the mecca and origin for many such things. But I don’t base my response on my experience with drugs. I base it on my direct consciousness! And I understand what it is and that no drug, process, or any alteration of the brain or experience can ever produce it. Just not possible. Doesn’t work that way. It may be possible to have a direct consciousness while on some drug, but the drug doesn’t do it. Only you can. Just like it may be possible to have an enlightenment while contemplating, but the method doesn’t do it, you do."

This guy has to be trolling...

Stop projecting bro. I have also read a lot of krishnamurti and his work is EXTREMELY NUANCED and tough to grasp. You are just parroting what you read.