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Oh damn, true and ironic. Like someone in a drug-induced psychosis who thinks they're invincible since they can't feel physical pain. Seems like reality likes to keep balance.

Practically, this doesn't seem to ever happen from psychedelics. What is left over are memories, desires, longings, and speculations. But nothing that really "lasts." I see it very simply. The psychedelic is a chemical which "brute forces" itself in such a way that the brain does not have the capacity or intelligence to form an ego anymore. Once that chemical wears off, the ego is back, but it is thus never understood what the ego actually is, and thus "ego" is never seen through totally. In order to figure out what ego is, you must be able to clearly perceive it and sit with it first. Alcohol makes you happy, but it is temporary because substances are temporary, and so there is always a distinct "come down." There is no understanding of how to be happy in the "baseline" state, the alcohol stunts your intelligence because your intelligence makes you unhappy in the baseline state. Similarly, psychedelics stunt your intelligence so that you cannot form a proper ego anymore, and that creates a temporary "clarity", but that substance-induced state is often misconstrued as some sort of higher and more "truthful" state which should then be chased after. Similar to how someone might look at being drunk as a "happier" state, but what is not seen is that the happiness and unhappiness is simply your intellect malfunctioning, and the alcohol manipulates that. It's like the analogy of the rope and the snake. Enlightenment is seeing a rope as a rope, not a snake. Psychedelics are like transforming or removing the rope entirely, so that it is not perceived as it normally is. Then when you come back to the baseline you're like "oh shit the snake is back!" I can see how it could be beneficial. But really the only benefit I personally see is the sense of open-mindedness, and the curiosity it creates. The real problem is when those states are put on a pedestal, or the psychedelics are used as some sort of clutch. If you create some kind of ideology or conclusion that relates to those states, that immediately creates a hierarchy now which turns the psychedelic state into some kind of arbiter of truth.

Yes. They can obviously become a massive red herring. If someone is very stubborn on the matter, for example they refuse to self-inquire into their existence or even look into the possibility, then I think it can help "open their mind." But it can also make someone mentally ungrounded and make them latch onto all sorts of lofty metaphysical ideas. Humans already have all sorts of crazy ideas just from the baseline state. I would definitely not use it for "chasing truth" or any such endeavor. I think it's better to use it to spark curiosity instead of landing on lofty metaphysical conclusions, because the mind sticks to those like glue. But it's not like it's mandatory or anything, truth isn't conditional.

Ego doesn't exist! It's like unicorns. Don't mistake the map for the territory. And no, you don't need unicorns to remember your name or whatever.

Funnily, doesn't seem to happen on psychedelics. Only sober. "Enlightenment" as it is called. (sorry for using the E-word!)

Nothing is at stake. That is the fantasy! "Without fantasies I can not exist as a self" is like saying "without unicorns I can not exist as a self."

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That sounds great. I think you have gained significant distance from your previous thoughts about reality. My advice to you is to sit with all your thoughts and imagination, and watch them appear and disappear. Do it in a dim/dark place if possible. Keep watching them until you completely realize that none of your thoughts and imagination exist or point to anything. Ramana had a great koan: "If mind exists, then describe it."

Sounds like an enlightenment similar to Eckhart Tolle. Immense psychological pain, and then a sudden "detachment" or "understanding" that you aren't really located inside of the thought/imagination you are perceiving. Do you still experience anxiety or social anxiety? How are your emotions in general?

Very nice. What inspired this?

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Are we really entertaining that God at its ultimate is a two-forked road between nihilism and non-nihilism? Is God a philosopher now? How convenient for the intellectually and philosophically minded. What is this cognitive dissonance? Is that all you see of life and reality? Ground yourselves. This is like imagining a dirt house and thinking "I'm gonna live in my imagination because that's what God wants." What is the most obvious and simplest explanation? That God is a philosopher who juggles between meaning and nihilism? Or that God is being anthropomorphized by a human ego? If triangles had a God they would give it 3 sides. If humans had a God they would give it an existential nihilistic crisis.

The idea of solipsism gave you an existential crisis, and now you are left choosing between nihilism or non-nihilism. It looks really pretty when you add the word "God" in there though. God is apparently having an existential nihilistic crisis, and that is the ultimate intelligence at play?

That's pretty damn accurate as a summation. The "surrender" is really just a clear perception that that you cannot be inside the content of thought. It is a clear recognition of the nature of experience and how it contains itself. Once you see it you can't unsee it, and that is so called "enlightenment."

Ego can only ever be thought. All "I" statements are thought. All "I" statements are limitations because they are divisions and separations. All separation is limitation. You are being aware of thoughts of limitation, like "I am this or that." You, as unbounded infinite awareness, are being aware of the thoughts, but not being in the thoughts. Awareness can't be limited by what it is aware of, because it can't be inside of what it is aware of. You can't read a story while being in the story. Trying to get rid of barriers is like trying to get rid of unicorns. You can't get rid of what is inside of imagination because only something which exists inside of imagination could do that. You are not someone who hunts unicorns. You are not someone who hunts down barriers. You can only realize that you aren't inside of imagination in the first place.

The dreaded E word. We don't use such terms around these parts.

All of which would have to be imaginary. Like imagining blue and yellow unicorns. Finite is thought. You are aware of the thought of being finite, like "I have incarnated into a body/unicorn." You are being the thought, not being in the thought. You can't be inside of what you are aware of. You can't read a story while being in the story.

Ego can't do any of that because unicorns can't do any of that. The ego is any story or statement you make of it. You can't read a story while being in the story. You are being aware of things, not being in what you are aware of. The idea that the ego can return is itself ego. There it is, right there, in the idea: "the ego will return."

Quote from the edited version: Meaning, there is no higher level, because higher level is in contrast to ego/body, which itself is imagination and thought. The entire thing is ego/imagination.

Only what is imaginary can be imagined. If the body is being imagined at a higher level, then the body and the higher level are both imaginary.

Ego is thought. Your statement relates itself to ego, therefore it confirms the existence of ego, therefore it is ego. Because it claims that the body relates to ego in some way. Therefore, the formulation in the sentence is itself is just thought and ego.

Can something you think die? Do unicorns die? If you think you're a body.

"It" will return "next time"? Interesting thought but no thanks. The unicorn population will be dearly missed.

Use hydroxyapatite toothpaste. Make sure to floss regularly, work your way up to it slowly if your gums are weak and bleed easily. Brush your tongue and also the top of your mouth. If it is a natural hydroxyapatite toothpaste, it is essentially going to be entirely edible, you don't have to rinse with water and it is recommended you don't (just spit all of it out without water) and I find that this helps keep the oral microbiome in check for longer (clean, no bad breath). The toothpaste I use has sorbitol and peppermint oil in order to mediate the oral microbiome, so maybe look for those. Control what you eat, make sure it is not overly sticky and carby. It should be something that your saliva easily breaks down and emulsifies. Essentially stick to whole foods. In the morning I eat 1 tbsp of butter and coconut oil and coat the inside of my gums and teeth with it, gives it a protective layer. I'll have 1 tbsp at the end of the day too. Let food be your oral medicine. Chew thoroughly and properly. Should be like baby food at the end. You can imagine you're chewing as if there is a rock or needle in the food. It's important that your saliva properly lubricates the food and mouth. Make sure your mouth isn't dry. Hydrate.

There is just the thought. The thought is equivalent to conditioning. Being aware of the thought "25 years of old conditioning" is the conditioning and subsequent identity which is felt currently, as the thought. You are being the thought, not being in the thought. 25 years can't be thought of, or experienced. 25 years is not caused by 25 years. 25 years only exists from the vantage point of "25 years after." 25 years is thought, in every sense. You are aware of the thought "25 years", you are not being in the thought. Thought is not caused by what happened 25 years ago. Conditioning is not caused by what happened 25 years ago. You cannot experience the cause of experience. Conditioning is felt currently, as the thought.