seriousman24

Well that's it, now it's cringe to believe the universe isn't real, now I'm on everything's real side again.

Pain lets different types of pleasures come together, because it tells you what to remove from whatever mix of pleasure you currently have, pleasure accidentally increases pain when it isn't pure because it makes you increase the frequency and/or quantity of the action that leads to it more often/increases it's quantity, therefore one side tries to remove all suffering so that whatever pleasure is left is the pure one that can be increased infinitely without worry, the other side tries to increase whatever pleasures partly because with enough indiscriminate pleasure across large enough time all suffering gets removed anyway because the inducement of pleasure indiscriminately increases everything which includes pain, which given enough time would get purified because of a few types of delusion like believing that some pain remover focused energy would increase anyway and therefore with your energy gift of pleasure it would have enough to remove everything, however both alone are false, for some reason the superior lifeform both removes and adds suffering and removes and adds pleasure, I think this is because of time itself and the simultaneous reality of others and of the solipsistic self. Universes of only pleasure or on can't exist with multiple selves because by definition, all pain would disappear and made to be as if it never existed and all pleasure would also not need to exist because it is already itself, it wouldn't need other consciousness, I can see how you could have singular self based universes if you have just pain or just pleasure based universes as long as you added time to it, time here meaning infinite progression, infinite increase in pleasure and in the case of pain it's infinite removal, so pain(it's perfect removal)+time or pleasure+time is necessary for singular consciousness and intelligence. The existence of multiple real solipsistic selves is possible in this universe that has the 3 conditions of pain, pleasure and time and furthermore it allows the physical existence of relatively unconscious elements which are compromised of mixes of simple yet unmixed types of pleasure/pain with sprinkles of time, like rocks, it's beyond me to know, fire is an example of a powerful element, these simple unconscious parts can be both completely intertwined with us or can be separated, we can choose, they can't much, I can eat an orange and we integrate in each other but maybe shit wouldn't, yet both can be absolutely useful, they can also be completely useless, therefore this reality allows all possibilities without limit as long as we fulfill our responsibility of always increasing pleasure and always seeking to remove pain, of who, of what, when, we don't have much choice until we also master time, I'm sure there are being who have these 3 elements mastered, both beings who care and who don't care, both beings who could be seen as utterly evil and utterly good and all kinds of shades that don't have to be in that gradient.

The part that isn't taken seriously is removal of suffering as a form of fundamental love, not suffering itself but it's continued and infinite perfect removal, perfect removal implies that it keeps getting removed and therefore is part of what retains forms and time, this is what I've felt and thought. One mistake is assuming that removal of suffering ends and then you're in unconscious bliss, another mistake is thinking that removal of suffering can't be pleasurable and another mistake is thinking that considering these first two truths it isn't possible to be just bliss, it is possible, but it's bliss with this particular shape in this universe, the perfect pleasure that increases in quantity and shapes itself through the removal of suffering which necessitates suffering as type of resource that you don't suffer, it just creates a shape and makes time real I don't how or why but it's definitely related to movement and speed itself(at all levels obviously) because of many bizarrely simple reasons. You could say the masculine energy is that which is fine with and attains any quantity of pleasure regardless of the suffering because it is already removing all of it, therefore it's relationship with suffering is conscious and it's relationship with pleasure is unconscious. The feminine force feels a bit more complicated, it's more about taking any pleasure and improving it and ignoring suffering and just shifting to types of pleasure that have the minimum suffering attached, there's more to it but right now it's what's coming out of my mind. You can kind of see how removal of suffering and refinement of pleasure connect when you have suffering and pleasure lying around just like unconscious elements that actually can't even exist in time by themselves at least in this universe. The natural property of the feminine like reproduction like quality of pleasure automatically increases the quantity of anything, to break it's own limits, that is when it is flowing in time, it connects to suffering by connecting to additional types of pleasure, like peanut butter connects to nutella, two pleasures clash/mix and then they need parts of it removed which is where the problem solver, suffering removal acts on the two pleasures and organizes the parts that aren't meshing so that it comes a new super pleasure, both in quantity and quality and utility and whatever absurd complexity arises, of course the feminine also as power over the masculine, it can choose induce pleasures, or in other words increase the quantity of the specific masculine energy that it needs so that it's masculine energy removes what it needs removed and of course "later on" it gets more and more complex, so with the two mixed which is what we see most of the time specially if we focus only on life it gets to the point where obviously it also removes pleasure itself, it has that jurisdiction because it is removing suffering that is entangled in that pleasure, and hence here we are the disturbed masculine and feminine that have rights over one another, one is like yeah why not just increase pleasure infinitely, then the other is like yeah but you can have all pleasure anyway if all suffering is removed, not realizing that because of time you can get to infinite types of pleasure with zero delay with zero suffering in infinite quantities, and the pleasure oriented energy not realizing that it would have infinite "speed" of pleasure, it doesn't need to be limited to itself. There is a other beyond 1 infinite pleasure, there are infinite pleasures that connects through removal of suffering. Anyway I'm already sounding a bit crazy even for this place this was pretty cathartic as usual, I usually just type "crazy" stuff exactly of this nature but don't post, I'm feeling good today though so here I go, as long as someone understands even 5% (which they probably do) I'm satisfied.

Anyone want to tackle supreme suffering now, I'm kind of bored of all this love, I don't want to be the first I'll get misunderstood and it hurts, how does infinite suffering work, is suffering a low state that only belongs to lower stages or can an infinite being like a super mouse or a super bridge have the most horrific levels of suffering and how would we go about learning about them without hurting ourselves, are they even relevant and what does infinite love think about it.

I mean if reincarnation is real then it has always been real so nothing really changes that much.

He wants to jump from an INFINITY sized bridge we gotta build it first.

I agree, that's why "they" say some yogis "leave" on purpose when they are young, maybe the younger the better according to your "skill level", it's called mahasamadhi, I hope it's real so I can do it as early as possible since I don't trust myself to be able to it when I'm older.

Hey don't speak for me I'm blindly following him.

Wait sorry to interrupt but this seems to be related to the alien queen thing in someway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8AXWd6DFzU

Are you happy scholar!???I bet leo is crying in his chair right now you ruined his enlightenment. "fuck...why can't these low level subsets of myself shut the fuck up when I'm trying to have some fun, I shouldn't have preached so hard about how everyone can be deluded about fucking everything, anyway moving on"

The first priority is protecting ukranian lives, therefore they should all make a plan to flee to neighboring countries first since that will minimize the harm on both sides, I don't know the follow up but I imagine it would actually make diplomacy much easier in someway, if you really want to fight use robots not people, if russia occupies an empty ukraine even after diplomacy what would be the excuse now, it would give russian citizens a much larger time window for them to oppose their leaders themselves, this measure is possible in the modern world and much less extreme than war.

Pretty jumbled up repetitive text and info but it's all about the same thing that worked for me so good luck: Dry fasting or normal fasting Carnivore or dirty/clean keto or low inflammation foods and try not to get constipation all to force grounding if it gets too disturbing at one point, you can just do it when it gets bad Eat lots of food of what you're already eating or much less, of course don't eat agitating food like fast food or super high in sugar or alchool/etc Just switch something up on your diet after a fast, it's more intuitive Take warm showers more than usual whenever you feel like it even if it doesn't make normal common sense, of course don't do things that you can't afford Basically you do a lot of something specific and/or completely drop doing certain things for awhile Try fasting somewhere between 4/5/6 days before the super new/full moons, or whenever it's on the closer side, distant moon tends to be safer and of course watch how the energy shifts so you can fast on the full moon if you really need to, the moon phase is 3 days around the actual day so this month it would be 8/9/10 so I'm not sure how it works with others with unbalanced energy but the closest full moons tend to be blissful when I'm prepared just through diet but for new moon you kind need more activity rather than passive preparation I still haven't figured this one out, so maybe you'll feel more of this unbalance on the full moon? The calmest days tend to be 4/5/6 days after the full moon or the new moon but I've only noticed this 2 months ago so I'm still trying to confirm, I don't want to be a slave to moon phases of course it's just for fun and for when it gets bad. There's other stuff but it's specific to me so it could be dangerous this should be enough. I went through some of your posts and I can assume you're well off so there's probably a ton of other stuff that's even easier and effective that I don't know about. Carnivore/keto or/and fasting/empty bowels and frequent bowel movements, super simple and direct just to calm energies down, simple walking after a full day fast is also pretty easy. Just find some simple food, like salmon or kefir or maybe chia seeds with yogurt or lots of either 1 type of vegetables or 1 type of fruit , either 1 type or 2 types of foods max(don't mix fruit, dairy vegetables, meat or fish in the same day) with the minimum seasoning. I mix rice or potatoes with eggs or with meat or fish and it's fine, either eat a lot but simple or very little and simple, I've been eating very little lately to manage myself and prepare for the full moon, of course you only really need to do this when it gets bad it's not a mandatory ritual, follow your intuition after a full day fast, preferably dry but comfortability is the priority it depends on you(24+ hours so that it includes one sleep cycle) with simplicity in mind first.

I agree and pleasure makes it even realer which is what the pain ends up developing to, either by changing our external pattern of reaction to it or modifying the pain parameters into pleasure ones, usually a mixture of both.

The elephant in the room is: suffering is real and everyone is terrified of it, this includes 100% of all beings that have and will ever exist; just like love's purpose is to love so is hate?hate's purpose is to hate, when you hate something successfully it goes away, that's the simplified version a universe with just love or just hate wouldn't have other's in it, a universal being made of just love, completely immaterial, with no mind can not have any forms, likewise a hate being doesn't exist or can not be felt directly as itself because it is perfect hate, which means it has hated everything away which includes itself; that's as far as I think I comprehend the subject our understandably total and infinite terror about suffering makes it difficult to have a cohesive discussion because multiple beings require the existence of mixes of hate and love even in a solipsistic universe with a single being in it, because if our singular minds have different shapes, that is, different than sameness, they would be voids of sameness, if they were voids they would be invisible and unconnectable hate beings or love beings, therefore consciousness requires hate and love to exist and maybe in an asymmetrical way, although only asymmetrical when we're not all one, but for true oneness you need to be totally separated too, that is, we need perfect hate, that is, we need to hate the hate away and remain hateful, we don't just shoo the hate away, we acquire the shapes and forms that hate have and that should theoretically lead to true love which is the combination of ego's and oneness, that's what I want to believe, hate gives us personal stories, I don't know why we aren't just like boom, pure perfect love/hate beings but I believe it has something to do with the nature of time because all beings are already repulsed by suffering(hate,put too simply) and attracted by pleasure(love, put too simply), so if we were just an infinite timeless being, that is, if we were just a form without time we would be that perfect hate/love already, which means since we aren't, the only logical conclusion is that we haven't matured into time, movement, story and ego. what do you guys think, does any of this make sense?

Really beautiful and poetic prose about the nature of god and reality.

Andrew Tate is above such people like Connor Murphy for the simple reason that he is the most powerful being that as ever existed, Andrew is setting us all up for the ultimate love bomb, he will remain as himself just as we will, his uniqueness is special and will show us all something we never thought possible, thank you Andrew Tate and Connor.

Love is the ultimate destruction, it has extreme similarities to the most horrifying suffering and intentional evil yet it doesn't actually hurt, there's a lot to learn from evil people and evil actions, why did I write this? Just a bit of random fun.

The ice-cream is in the shape of a heart and the folds and his legs kind of too and the number of contrasting colors between the different layers resembles the complexity of the cats patterns. We can give any interpretation we want from the outside. Also his cat is more enlightened than him, it was his cat all along giving him his insights, he came from another universe and the best he could handle was the form of a cat, now that the cat has transcended even beyond the formless the impossible is the norm now, a great 1000 year metaphysics love war using leo's clones from the data gathered by his cyborg cat will ensue, having determined that the overall framework of leo is the most optimal warrior he is now preparing multiple wombs on the other side to bio summon leo for when he transcends this universe, but he is merely copying leo's data, he will not subject his bro to any harm, leo will be freed, everything is love.

You gotta do some high level grounding for this one bro, you can make it 100% blessing if you're stable enough, some kind of yoga maybe? Maybe even try some isha foundation yoga if you're in US and can visit cause online is kind of lame. Good luck. Never forget your car keys again, this one seems easy enough to counter, you can reject the girlfriend premonition on purpose if you want to, do it gently like ignoring a casual opportunity, you know be casual about it since you want to normalize it. This is a normal thing that happens to everyone to different degrees, in fact normal things happen to you that you don't see as paranormal and they aren't a problem because they don't cause suffering, so I think it's your body that can't handle it which includes your full body neurology of course, you need an upgrade but yeah it would be nice to have some people to discuss basic paranormal stuff with like telepathy and synchronicity which are actually the same thing, I treat my internal paranormal phenomena like just like a regular thought and external ones just like an extra load that I have to work around, like my own forgetfulness which is a consequence of my body being unable to hold high levels of energy for which the solution was to improve my body through weird meditation and weird diets and weird attitudes which by virtue of personal weirdness wouldn't directly help you, just telling you for moral support.

Well this forum and watching youtube and shows and even playing offline videogames can count as socializing as many of them involve social creatures of some sort, maybe we can be alone but what's difficult is to be without external support in activity. I think the only thing that's needed is the ability be as still as possible for as long as possible and therefore the most important activities are the ones that make sitting perfectly easy so we can sit for weeks on end and comeback easily which is a purely mechanical challenge from the point of view of people who've already decided that there's a lot to learn from meditation, we wouldn't mind sitting endlessly if we didn't get physically tired it's that easy. The biggest obstacle to spirituality is literally a basic physical challenge for those who are already initiated, like I'm sure most people into this don't even realize that's 90% of the problem so they keep doing the old self torture business by pretending that it's just their mental ego that's making them unable to meditate whenever their body hurts because that's what most of what we hear from our gurus from afar because to be fair most of what they talk about is to lure us in to begin with in the first place. Sadghuru and osho and leo and whoever we follow should just spend like 95% of their lectures convincing us and giving us tips on how to attain the perfect meditation posture and the perfect diet/exercises for it, we barely even need food when you can do this so no financial burden there after we achieve it. This is it leo and my awakened fellows I have finally surpassed you all, to attain the ultimate liberation you just need to focus on the physical aspect of spirituality and then the grass grows by itself. So you just need right food, right exercise and the right space and that's most of the work. This will be the new sacred "Trinity", food, exercise and space, at this moment I am euphoric, not because because of some deep, dark and difficult realization but because I've finally understood all there is to spirituality is actually physicality. Sorry I went way off topic I was feeling too good socializing with you guys.

Pretty good but everything is also completely real in addition to being fake so you can relax(if you want, you can want things you know, it's okay) and to add to the infinitely positive you can add there the infinitely anti negative, with the positive generating new negatives through duality for the anti negative to interact with and the anti negative generating new positives through duality which would generate new negatives for the anti negative, I don't know where time and space fits in all of this, I assume that's what we are here to figure out.

Hey at least Sadghuru's cult looks pretty functional.

Isn't doing a metal chelation going to desynchronize you with the Dhyanalinga since it's made out of mercury, you won't have the same connection and it won't be able to pull you to the right path, maybe a metal chelation that avoids chelating mercury or maybe we need some concecrated mercury drink just like kombucha so we can gravitationally and spiritually sync up with lord's shiva metal avatar, what do you think?

Oh cool I didn't know about Shiva yantra, it pains me that I don't have access to those places or clear knowledge about them.

Probably it's harder for mature brains to restore neurons away from the hippocampus and etc but there's still growth of support cells around neurons. Maybe deep meditation can restore/produce new neurons further away from the central regions because technically our brain waves can switch to ones that are more prevalent in children, would be interesting to make correlations maybe there's some study about it out there already.