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@Inliytened1 You know you are right. Why would any sane person come in this place full of delusion and negativity.

@Inliytened1 wow, just wow! Enjoy your lava ice cream my dude.

@Inliytened1 That makes no sense, it's like saying "scientists recommend not eating lava" and you go on and say "science is held within consciousness!" okay then go and try eating lava, and yes if you survive you might discover for yourself, the whole idea of this is not to discover for yourself, don't you get it?

@Inliytened1 That's not what the science is saying. Do you know better than your professional about your body? These are not my opinions those are what reality is saying. Here is another paper. You can't deny stuff like this, at the very least one could admit the risks and proceed but not flat out deny them like they know anything about it. If you or anyone here in this forum has done any professional research to prove otherwise this stands. gouzoulis-mayfrank1998.pdf

That's the whole magic, the entire essence or worth of the imaginary paradigm, if we made a clear distinction between those too then reality would be more real and we don't want the bad to be real we want it to be meaningless. It's depression 101.

Well he knows they would not take him seriously if he went direct with his teachings and would think of him like a junkie. If on the other hand he went more indirect then there would not be anything special about leo to the world, because that type of talk is all over the place. The best thing would be if leo talked about his teachings directly and people started believing but from what i have seen leo doesn't have the skills to make something like that happen. So unless the audience is something like this forum it's totally useless, i think the comments on youtube reflect people position on the direct approach.

It;s called acute psychosis, here is a research paper among many many more describing the experience. Well this is what science people call it at least.

Immortality mantra/prayer. Life is limited and death is a logical fact, body will get hurt or destroyed by something either over time or instantly. Death is a logical fact accepted in almost any living species, but very certain at this point for humans. Life has been increasing over time, with betterment of technology ect, but limited none the less. There are some species that are thought to live forever. You are separate from the universe, and a human. For the right person there is the one with authority for feelings telling otherwise, he tells "you are immortal or can live as long as you want" and it is true but only for the feelings, logically it makes no sense whatsoever, logic will deny it can deny it and rightfully so, yet for the feelings they have been commanded by the one with authority over them, they recognize him and how they made him above them in the past and now they have to obey. Having the right to live as long as you want, you are no longer bound by any death karma, you can study physics, play in the sand, do any mundane activity needed for the right path and even though doing them in the past reminded you of your limited time now they do the opposite and remind you of your power over death, the very thing that limited you in the past is now freeing you. Now logic and the nature of reality are what increases your power over death, a great reward for the one who endured the truth and it's nature which never changes for better or worse which you now know fully.

I think it's a accepted fact that even enlightened people get controlled by emotions and this raises the question does anyone take the challenge to conquer those emotions in biblical level? Has anyone ever done this i mean documented people? I personally would value such a person way above any enlightened person(i do appreciate those a lot as well) because that would truly be something divine and it would instantly convince any person of their high status in just a few moments in contact with such an individual, and when you think about it individuals like jesus, buddha(who actually begged for food) had such extreme supernatural kindness and even muhammed is said to have such qualities. It would not take any logic or explaining to convince people because emotions are just that universal. It's kind of a let down that currently no such strong person takes this challenge seriously, it's like they can't even imagine the concept in their head or dismiss it as weakness but if it was such then it would be easy to do, or worse get demoralized by modern christians who fail spectacularly at doing this. I think unless you have mastered such universal raw power you shouldn't even consider going public with your approach in any way as to help others, because it is tested again and again, words have no power without emotions behind them especially for such topics. Take for example epic people who mastered this, krishna dancing on snakes, jesus walking on water, similar conclusions of muhammad and buddha. It's only due to this mastery that their religions went so universal and survived so far, and it's the lack of such power that makes all other attempts look like a complete failure to them no matter how you look at it.

From Leos videos in my limited perspective it appears gods love makes hitler the same as jesus, and my question is if such a radical thing is okay from that high perspective then it should include equal love towards ideas and concepts like the ego or blue stage values, including the materialistic worldview. If not then gods love is finite, wouldn't that make him limited if it can't live fully in the materialistic world, only a human would consider it limiting or a dividing thing. Let me know what you think.

@calibrate You would have to ask that to someone who knows and is willing to answer.

@Nahm hahah

@Nahm Bruh, as i told the other guy, do your thing i am not here to convince you anything. Hey it's your life, bye bye.

@calibrate That appears to be the case, they depend on that to be god, unlike the real deal.

@Nahm You have a very contradictory way of showing it, but let's test it then more directly. Would you agree that in the god perspective materialistic world view(aka normie worldview) is the same as leos highest teaching or yours that you currently use? If yes tell me if not why? If you can't deny it or accept it then you will try talking about anything else.

@Nahm Again trying to make this about me so that you don't have the thing that is really troubling you, which is this topic, trying anything to find some dirt or that i can fall for some trap so that you can feel better. Truth is, there is nothing wrong with messing up despite what you might feel, it's not too late to get back,

@Nahm Yeah yeah, it isn't working pal. If you don't want to see the obvious keep it for yourself.

@calibrate materialism paradigm and any "advanced" paradigm are equal in the highest perspective or god perspective, the one where leo easily says jesus is the same as hitler, or infinite love. Yet many in this forum make a division that one paradigm is better than another or some values are better than another blue vs green which only a limited human can say/benefit from.

@Nahm You are trying your very best to go around it so much, but that is the human condition. It's as if you could manage to convince me or anyone of your duality somehow you managed to quiet your voices inside your mind. Keep going round and round and round.

@Nahm When i feel like answering questions about me, you are welcome to ask me, till then i would appreciate things on the topic if you have something to say.

@Nahm Lol are you serious? This whole website is build around enlightenment and non duality, how there is no right or wrong and he goes publicly saying hitler and jesus are the same. Now a duality appears physical world view vs imaginary world view, to god they are equal and the same, doesn't matter. For petty humans who draw their entire "power" and freedom from this error or duality of course it is a massive problem and complex as well anything to avoid it confronting it, because if this duality goes away their entire "power" as well, god doesn't depend on any view or concept he is all. The worst is that everyone knows this when they see you talk and act, taking leo for example, they all know this, they can't pinpoint specifically but they know it and laugh at him and anyone who is that weak.

I am not talking about me at all here. We are talking about that high perspective that ultimate non duality experience where leo says hitler is the same as jesus and indeed that would be the case for god but the same goes for concepts like physical world view and imaginary world view, for god those are the same and equal, blue and green. Only a human would find value in their difference or duality clamming one is better than the other, for god they are equal.

@Leo Gura Yes for leo the human it is. For god the all powerful they are the same. Nothing conditions god or is above god as to make him see differences between his creation.

@Leo Gura It's just a mindset a divine mindset, no one is requiring you to move planets, we are just taking a mindset here. And in that high perspective which many people claim to have reached, materialistic and any other world view should be the same. Truth is only god would not mind living in a materialistic world view or any other, for humans they differ vastly since they are limited and they cling strongly to one or the other as i have noticed here the spiritual worldview and normal people in the materialistic view since each supports their limited human self.

@Serotoninluv Glad you didn't become emotional about this, it means you are on the very top. Thnx again.