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@Florian no harm in looking into it. It can happen spontaneously so at least if you looked into it you’d be more prepared for what’s to come. Because experiencing what you say you have there with the sleep paralysis and vibrations, the very next step will be the sensation of leaving the body, so without even trying, your edging closer and closer to an obe anyway. Best to be prepared than to just exit and shit yaself?. Remember though, if you do try to proceed, this is all mind, as much as it feels like a soul or whatever leaving the body. Good luck with whatever you do and whatever follows next ??

This is sleep paralysis and the vibrational stage that proceeds astral projection. You can train your mind to help you project from that position you were in of the trembling/vibrations, so when you try to move, instead of being stuck, you will move, literally get up out of your body with an astral body, pretty much like a ghost body. And you will be out, in another sort of realm. Like a more subtle dream like version of this world. You can fly you can go anywhere your mind can muster up once you’ve got the hang of it. You can also end up places you don’t really fancy being at all. Can be quite disturbing at first as you will encounter entities, human like, alien like, all sorts of weird things. It’s amazing what you find you hold in your subconscious. And all’s this whilst laying in your bed a sleep. Very much like lucid dreaming but there’s a different feel about it, it’s hard to describe. This can feel ultimately real, as real as your everyday waking life, but a bit more dreamy. As real as it seems though, it is all just still imagination, projection of your own mind. But a very interesting one to say the least, and you can do it all without the use of psychedelics or any substance, just by going to sleep but learning how to remain aware. I spent about a year exploring this state of consciousness, very intriguing. But what I found was that people seem to get stuck on the idea, and the way it manifests seems to trick those that do it that this is their destination when they die. I’ve come to realise that this is not the case, and is just more projection, of this particular life your living right now. Great fun nonetheless though I’d advise anyone to have a pop at it. If interested I used ryan croppers techniques to get me there I found on YouTube if that’s any use to you, and it took me about a month to 6 weeks to nail it before I had my first experience. I won’t lie I shit myself at first, but then it became a great experience as I worked out the ins and outs of what was actually going on. Now I don’t try, it’ll just happen spontaneously from time to time I’m not fussed about it anymore, but I make the most of it if it does happen. It’s an area of consciousness that’s interesting, but your not going to get to the depths of reality through it, that’s far and away beyond astral projection

Exactly the reason I think Leo going on Rogan’s podcast would be a pointless exercise. As to the type of character in general, not all but in general that are listeners of it, would likely listen to what Leo says about being god and all that, then runaway thinking and believing that they are god cus some guy on the joe rogan podcast said it. Ego’s running round believing they’re god, without doing any work, having absolutely no idea what consciousness is. That’s no good for anybody to be honest. Yea there may be a minority that took Leo seriously and begin a dedicated spiritual journey type thing, but they’d be in the minority. I think anyone who’s serious about the nature of reality will find Leo themselves, or, and other spiritual teachers, because they’re genuinely interested and are searching anyway. Just a personal opinion, but from where I stand, Leo and the joe Rogan podcast don’t really mix ??‍♂️

Rogan is asking the questions. That’s all good. But his best bet would just be to sign up to actualized.org, take on board Leo’s teachings, do the work, and get those questions answered ?. It seems he’s currently of the belief these things can’t be answered, yet they can

@SoonHei all of u. Gobsmacked. Great to see u all?

@Leo Gura wow. It was nice to see you leo. As me. No more words needed. Incredible. Thank you?

Interesting as I had a lucid dream few nights ago. I became lucid as I looked at my hands and noticed my fingers sort of melt. I was dreaming I was in an area up the road from my home and was stunned when exploring this dreamscape at the accuracy of the environment to my everyday experience of it. I wandered around and touched walls and objects and was intrigued as they felt so solid. I looked down at my dream body and watched as I freely moved my legs to walk. I was of understanding that I had imagined this whole environment, and a self to explore it. I decided that I’d try to astral project from this dream body. So I put this dream body to sleep and astral projected out of it. And I was now in my own living room. I realised I’ve now created another body, an astral body from my dream body, and a completely new environment within the dream. Like a dream within a dream. After a bit of playing around I went back to my dream body and awoke, but awoke into the first dream I was having, then awoke again into this everyday waking reality. So basically realised that that I could imagine body after body and environment after environment in my dreams. It became so clear that as this waking state is ordinarily my top level of awareness 99% of the time, I could from this level, or when I sleep anyway imagine and create what seems like lower levels of reality i.e. dreams, or maybe not lower, maybe just different, I don’t really know,then it’s pretty obvious that this level of reality and self sort of thing, are being imagined from an even higher level of consciousness. Which I’ve actually experienced through the use of lsd, that I am imagining all of this. But as to the degree of exactly how I’m doing this I need to trip deeper. So what I feel the lucid dream done for me was give me more confirmation of the fact as Leo says, this is all imaginary

@Nate0068 @Victor Mgazi thanks very much these views are intriguing to me and very much appreciated ??

I had an lsd experience couple of months ago. Without going into too much detail about the whole trip, the main aspect of it was my ego death, and how I realised I’d imagined everything, my whole life, who I am, who other people are, the narrative my life had took, all those sorts of things that come along with it. I had this overwhelming certainty that I was the only thing in existence. But not me, as in the character, the sort of thing that was behind the character, this thing what I actually am. Which certainly wasn’t a person. It was just like an invisible imaginative thing, that seemed like nothing at all, just empty imagination. I ended up praising myself, but not me as a character, this imaginative thing, I couldn’t believe how clever I was actually was, to completely trick myself, that my whole life had been real. I was saying things like fuck your good, your so fucking good so clever to have done this. Then the thing that’s really got me now looking back, ego intact, is that in the moment of the trip, I was astounded to wonder, thinking how many times have I done this to myself, and the answer was infinite times, and that I’ll do it infinitely more times, over and over and over again. That I would live this particular life infinite times in infinite particular ways. That kind of made sense. But as I say now looking back, as my ego tries to mentally piece things together, I wonder if this is false, like a false awakening type thing, as in my ordinary state of consciousness I can’t get out of the thinking that this keeps my in some kind of loop, as if living this particular life infinitely in infinite different ways, how can I possibly be everybody else too, if I’m infinitely living this one? I understand that infinite intelligence would have a way around this, of course it would, as is infinitely intelligent. But I havnt reached that. So I just wonder if I’m on the right path here, is this a true awakening to some extent, and just need to go deeper, or am I somehow deluding myself and is false? It would be great if I could get a response from Leo on it. But of course any opinions from anyone are very much appreciated ??

Brilliant that!

I can only say that the deeper Leo is going the more interesting it’s all becoming. It depends on what your after getting out of it. Personally I’m about getting to the depths of reality and finding out just exactly what is going on here. So his the more he helps me understand consciousness the more it resonates with me. It’s making it easier for me to decipher just what’s going down in my own trips as I try to go deeper myself and work out just what the hell is going on here. Whether that’s comfortable to my ego or not. If it’s just a a bit of happiness and a more positive outlook on life your after then I can understand why the newer content would have no relevance to that type of person. From my perspective I can see why he promotes the psychedelics to reach these levels of consciousness because as he’s stated many times now, your just not gonna meditate your way into these states, or I can certainly resonate with that statement anyway, I would have no way of ever meditating my way into the states that psychedelics can take you. So personally, I’m all for the way Leo has gone and is going. Although I understand why others might not be

I’m not going to claim in any way that I know what’s going on with this virus. But I am going to suggest that the reactions to it are so fucking ego oriented it’s unreal. I’ve awoken to a certain degree, not amazingly deep or anything like that. But I have had ego death, I have gone deep enough to realise everything is imaginary including myself, you and whoever else is reading this. I genuinely cannot wait to hear Leo’s next podcast/video that talks about this. Because knowing that you have gone so much deeper than myself and most others with reality, your views on this will be very much appreciated. At the end of the day we’re all playing catch up with you that’s why we follow you in the first place. I’ve my own thoughts on how the ego mind has took this world over last few weeks. But once Leo comes back from his retreat, there’s potentially the greatest video/podcast he’s ever released ?

@Arcangelo ????? can’t argue with that lad ?. Although I know it’s not but people seem to be acting in a way that it is, it actually humours me. Can’t deny that I feel things have gone to the extreme. To point I feel it’s an absolute joke?

@LfcCharlie4 amazing! I’ve literally been thinking about a very similar situation throughout the day today. I’m quite astounded this post has just appeared ?. A much appreciated view on how one might go abouts a situation. I’ll be taking this on board as I was thinking imagine the reaction if I just feed someone a full on non-dual response when I can clearly tell they would be in no way ready to take in what I say. It’s difficult to address but this post has helped ??

@ivankiss Haha yes

Straight up hands down here. I’ve heard it a couple of times in Leo ‘s videos, that line ‘its a joke’. Well I’m here to tell you if you can’t read into that then there’s probably no hope for you. Because as far as I’ve come, and that’s not very far, but as shallow as my awakening is, it’s a joke ?. I know I’m god, I’ve worked that one out, I’ve realised that. But even that’s a joke. I seen something, or felt something, or whatever it even was, that had me sat there knowing that everything was just a complete joke? all my thoughts, all my god knows what, everything I am, everything you are, just everything I’ve ever known, was a complete joke hahaha. And it makes me laugh the way Leo puts it, because it’s so right. You just sit there afterwards and think, what a complete joke. I’ve so much further to go I know this, I really havnt a clue. But if Leo’s words of ‘its a joke’ don’t ruffle something in you, then you may as well just forget it. ‘Its a joke’ ?

@remember ?

@Mongu9719 I’d have to disagree. It’s not like he’s there telling us to just lash 5meo into us and crack on. He encourages all to do the work, gain an understanding and give yourself a good basis, a good grounding and when you yourself feel ready then go for the psychedelics. He stated many times in different ways that unless you’ve set yourself up and prepared yourself then your likely to fall on your ass with it all. I for one anyway am more than happy with how Leo goes abouts his business and can say 100% that it’s helped me along in many aspects of life dramatically. But we all have our opinions I guess and your as free to yours as anyone else

The average bum on the street wouldn’t realise what was going on. They wouldn’t be able to comprehend nor understand what’s happening to them and would generally come to a delusional conclusion. Leo’s worked at understanding all aspects of reality, god, consciousness however you want to put it for 20 odd years from multiple angles. The average bum on the street would 99.9% of the time have, what Leo sometimes refer to as a mental collapse

@The Lucid Dreamer this is pretty much exactly where I’m at with it although you seem to be able to put it across a tad better than I do haha

Nice one cheers for the opinions. Think Leo should do a video clear this up for us haha