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First off sorry to hear of the loss. I don’t know enough about the guy to make any comments on his state of mind or his reasons. Only what I’ve read. The blame game doesn’t work for me though. There’s such a variety of states of mind following actualized that it’s impossible to cater for all. I’ve seen a fair bit aimed towards the latest video, but let’s not forget the guy never watched that video he took his life before its release. Everybody here has their own agenda of what they want out of spirituality. For me personally it’s pure understanding of reality, what I am and what the hell im upto. And then to live in physical reality with the deepest understanding I can of what it is, how it’s working etc. To enjoy the creation. Whilst understanding it. Understanding myself. To it’s bitter end, it’s natural end. It’s obviously tricky to teach at such a scale, again because of the wide variety of individuals, everyone unique in their own way. It is down to the individual to try to gauge where they are at, to be wise and use common sense. Maybe if a video says ‘advanced’ in the title, then think maybe this isn’t quite for me yet, I’ll put viewing that aside for the time being an study other areas. The thing with it is, Leo is going to teach from where he’s at. New releases are not going to backtrack, dumb down or be watered down. Because those videos are already there. So from his perspective it makes no sense it’s pointless and a waste of time. It’s down to an individual to backtrack themselves through the catalogue of work and take up the teachings from where they honestly feel they’re at. If that’s his early self development videos then that’s where ya at. No point taking in his latest video if your in a position of just working out physical reality through quantum mechanics or something. For me personally I got a lot out of the latest video, and the long deep videos are right up my street. But the same applies where as he isn’t just teaching to suit my wants and needs. It’s on a grand scale and if things need altering in some form I’m sure he will. Let’s also not forget Soonhei will no doubt have taken in other teachings, the likes of tolle, spira, sadguru, yang, loads of the spiritual practices out there, to culminate in that final choice of suicide. Ya know people have hung themselves and committed suicide because their sports team have lost, this is true there’s many cases that can be searched up. But ya don’t blame the team for losing, or a couple of the individual players because maybe ya think they could have put in a little more effort that game. Or ya don’t stop going to watch your team if one of the fans has hung himself because the team got beat. These oddities do happen in all walks of life. It’s tragic and sad. And my heart goes out to those affected. Truth is truth in the end though. And if truth is to be taught, it’s needs to be taught as close to the truth as is possible. Or there’s no point in teaching it. You may as well say your teaching lies ??‍♂️

I had a massive lsd awakening months ago, maybe last year now I can’t remember exactly when. But I became aware of many of the things Leo spoke about. That I was here and always been here in the same spot same moment. I was aware of how I created this like web of imagination from one thought/memory to another. Kind of like the idea of me being here right now would create one strand which would sort of begin to spiral around me, kind of like that swing ball game. You could say that I was like the stick, like that was my empty consciousness. And the ball on the string was one idea spinning around me. Then I’d add another idea of how that ball was there, and one on top of that and so on. Suddenly there’s strings and balls flying round the stick to the point you can’t make out how many there are, thousands, millions, just spiralling around wrapping themselves around the stick so tightly I was locked in the middle of them just so tightly knit that it was my life, made up of these ideas and stories I’d concocted, built up on top of one another, creating this solidarity of this consistent ongoing from moment to moment life. But what I realised was that the idea of my birth wasn’t even like the first idea, that came as an idea built upon other ideas, you could say other balls on strings, to ground me in a reason of what the hell I was doing here. Anchoring me, which was a phrase leo used that I quite liked. So these ideas were not even in order as we would conventionally put it. They created an order from my human life perspective, but they weren’t really in order as such. It was an amazing revelation to me about how I am constructing this thing. And the awakening was the unraveling of that. Like unraveling the strings and balls away from the stick until I was just left as the stick. Now I wasn’t a stick and tennis balls? but it’s all I can seem to compare it to as the feeling of these thoughts and ideas spiralling around me creating me and my life. I’d found it difficult to interpret but after watching the video I was like I know this, I know what Leo is on about here I’ve experienced this to a degree. And on the subject of other people other bubbles, I’m pretty certain there isn’t any. That others conform to how you are, your true deep down concept of self. They are reactive to you because they are aspects of your own mind. And they seem surprising, and intelligent, with they’re own thoughts and opinions, purely because you don’t know your own mind deeply enough to understand why they conform to you the way they do. I’m guilty of this. But it’s workable I’m sure of that. The only time Leo’s bubble exists, is when your concept of self is that of Leo. Making you/us/him one in the same. The exact same thing, consciousness with a different concept of itself. Which makes you him, him you, him me, me him, as he likes to put it, I am you, and you are me. And considering it’s all happening outside of time and space at the absolute level, it’s simultaneous. So you really are just talking to yourself. Amazing, could not be put together any better. And I know, as the saying goes, I’m still only scratching the surface.

Great video. Straight to the point getting down to the nitty gritty no beating about the bush. That’s what we’re here for. A no nonsense approach

A good painting is a good painting. Of course it could be enjoyed by anyone. You could be marvelled by the talent of it, before you became aware it was Hitlers, then once you find out it’s hitlers you completely reverse how you feel about it. Which shows it’s just completely illusory your feeling toward the painting itself. Just projections placed over what is actually there. There’s a great documentary on Netflix called ‘Hitlers circle of evil’ 10 hour long episodes. Well worth a watch. Hitler was one bad bastard of course, but he was manipulated himself by others around him I’d go as far as saying that maybe some of those around him were even worse than him himself. Just Hitler was at the forefront and takes the wrap for everything aimed towards world war 2. Understandable. Don’t get me wrong, an evil evil man but there was worse who fed him all sorts for their own selfish reasons. This was not a praise of Hitler btw just incase anyone may misinterpret

Ya know I’ve fuckin sat here, and listened to that podcast. An I’ve tried to dissect it type thing, thing about how it works, how it doesn’t, and just how anything an everything. Ya know leo sits there at one point, well a couple of points, and says it how it is, those words we all wanted to hear, that ya imagining everything. I’m not quite sure if you lot realise how that sounds, to some stage orange even green, a bit yellow. Whatever however ya want to frame it. That podcast is a clever podcast there’s clever intellectual shit on there week in week out. It’s a fucking podcast of genuine people who are genuinely like clever blokes. As in they can chat, but they can really chat, they know their shit they’re not stupid. Yet there’s no doubt about it, when Leo sits there and tells them and tells the world whoever’s listening, that they are imagining everything ? that it just does not resonate. Not at all. I saw Leo’s face, he was giggling to himself at times cus he just knew, he just knows. It’s almost like trying to tell ya 12 month old kid that Santa is a tosser??‍♂️. It’s sooooo difficult I don’t think people appreciate. My mates want to cast me aside as if I’m an idiot if I suggest reality is imaginary. So fuck knows what half those viewers thought. They must have been like this fucker has lost the plot?. But I get it, I get why certain people may thing that, or along those lines. They’re cool dudes who run that podcast they genuinely are clever out there thinking people. But it’s like, reality is imaginary.... and it’s just impossible to get. U either get it or u don’t type thing. I mean I can imagine maybe a good few listeners might get it to the extent that they start questioning themselves. But fucking hell im not sure people realise just how crazy it is when u say reality is imaginary! Like it’s not just a joke, a here or there type thing. Reality is imaginary. That seriously is a line that if u truly get, you will go insane??‍♂️?. I’ve been there, I’ve been insane. So yea, I get it. Great podcast great discussion. But it’s never gonna be something like leo speaks to some dude on a podcast and awakens him live on air?. I think sometimes it seems like that’s what u guys want. I can’t happen. It’s a yearly structure, even more than yearly, it’s a lifetimes work. So yea, let up an just enjoy the content. It’s all good

Excellent watch that. There’s only so far ya can go in the time given and respond to whatever questions are asked of. Thought it was a great discussion to listen to ??

Ya know I’ve thought about this and actualized reaching the wider audience is likely to spell the end of this forum. And for good reason too. I’m in total agreement that the teachings need to be more widespread, they’re too good too unique for them to stagnate at where it’s reached at this point. Definitely the speaking on others podcasts and that is a great move to expand. I think at the minute there’s a million or so subscribers, so say for instance that was doubled, it’s going to draw in a serious amount of skeptics and debaters, argumentative types that will plough this forum with the biggest load of bollocks you could ever wish to read. Out of a million new subscribers you might get a couple of thousand that are genuinely serious about the work, at best, and the rest are likely to just be full of shit. There’s no doubt it’s time to expand and reach more and more people. But I just read some nonsense from some bloke on here a couple of threads that were locked pretty damn quickly, some religious babble, having a pop. Theres no doubt that more and more of this type thing will crop up. There’ll be locked threads here there and everywhere. So I’m thinking the forum will either die a slow death and be shut down altogether, or Leo will decide on not interacting with it anymore. And just leave it to his moderators. Which would be a massive shame because I don’t know of anywhere else where you can seriously interact with a teacher, with genuine questions and get a response, usually within a couple of hours, provided what your saying is genuine and not just fucking about after a rise from people or whatever. Even some of the non sensical things said on here will get a response from Leo. Some of us are actually trying, trying to figure this shit out, trying our best and the forum is great for that when your able to interact with Leo and others on here that are way further ahead of the game than the likes of myself. So a lot can be learned. To be honest I wouldn’t blame him if he stepped away from the forum, there’s more than enough on here already if you search. Every question we ask has already been asked, and in most cases a good in depth response from Leo is usually found within the thread. There’s also hundreds of hours of videos already, with more to come, if ya can’t get off the ground and up and running with this work with what’s already here then ya may as well just give up and crack on with life. Because the catalogue of work already is nothing less than tremendous. But I do believe there’ll be a lot of shit on here once the possible mainstream herd like audience appear. So I wouldn’t blame him if he just said fuck it, I don’t need this crap. Even the likes of that Murphy dude comes on and spouts some real dogshit. I’m not sure if he’s actually started a thread that hasn’t eventually been locked. And with good reason he’s just spouting absolute bollocks half the time. I’m no stranger myself to a few posts that may seem a bit out there, but they’re genuine and I’m sure anyone with half an imaginary brain? could appreciate at least I’m genuine at least I’m trying. Leo’s touched on shutting down this forum in one of his recent episodes and on his last he said something along the lines of he’s amazed at how few decent questions he gets asked on here. I thought yea I’m probably guilty of a few of them myself but at least they’re coming from the right place. There’s been some great questions and opinions on here that I personally feel I’ve learned a lot from. But they’re now all already there, to be searched and read through. It’d be as I’ve said a great shame if he does cast this aside, because it’s great to be able to interact with him, but we have to appreciate that he’s his own work to do, and at 10 times the rate that any of us can do it, to actually keep this up and teach it so in depth. Maybe I’m wrong. I love the forum, but things change and move on, and it very well might just become its watch the actualized videos, listen to whatever podcasts he goes on, read and watch the blog content, and that’s ya lot. And as I say, I wouldn’t blame him if that ends up the case. Because there’s a lot of shit cropping up on here and with growth, part and parcel of that growth will be an added amount of bullshit appearing on this forum. But to grow Actualized, that may just be what ends up happening. It’ll be more widespread, but less interaction with him himself

I think the young lad Dan from the ascend podcast would be a great little chat. He can be a bit of a new age type at times mind but he’s definitely an open minded lad and would certainly have loads of questions and give the opportunity to express yourself. Uk based too so I’m a bit biased. He’s had some interesting guests but having you on there would be a whole other level. Would love to hear you have a chat with Mike Tyson too that would be very interesting. Not too sure that’d be the best route to go down though as he seems to just sit there getting stoned on his podcast? but I’ve no doubt he’d love to chat to the likes of yourself he’s forever going on about God and his 5meo experiences. Seems a shame that he’s not found the right means or person to help him interpret just what it is he’s been experiencing properly. That could be you Leo?

Sit there and read, or listen, listening is probably better. On audible. To Neville Goddard’s lecture series. There’s 12 of them. They probably are the greatest listen you’ll ever encounter. Goddard is up there with Leo. And for me Goddard is I step above leo. Not as in he’s better. Not as in he’s been in higher or deeper states of consciousness as Leo has. But this guy knew his shit. Like 70 years ago or something. I’m listening to lecture 2 right now and the way he speaks about evolution and science and consciousness is on another level. Its just called Neville Goddard lecture series i think. You’ll find it on audible. When you’ve had massive awakenings, u just know, u just know that what is being said is the absolute truth. The marvellous thing is from what I can tell the guy never ever took a psychedelic. Anyway I’m throwing this out there to all of you on this forum because I think Goddard dishes out the greatest messages I’ve ever been privilege to witness. A personal opinion. And I hope @Leo Gura reads what I’ve written here. And if you havnt taken in the teachings of Goddard yourself already then I hope you do. Because the application of them will be without doubt the cure to your issues. Health wise that is. And I know you’ll get it and probably know better than most how to implement it. Because you understand consciousness. Better than most anyway. Lecture series 1-12 Neville Goddard. Dispose of it at your peril. Goodnight ??

There’s a centre point ya know to everything that can be. A centre point to you realising consciousness. There’s that central point, where you just get it. And everything wraps around that. That point is nothing. But from a relative point of view where is that point. That point is the video from Leo called ‘what is reality.’ Its so fucking pin point it’s probably the greatest piece of work I’ve ever encountered. I’ve had many awakenings, but sometimes I still just need reminded, because I know I again get wrapped up in the dream. So I throw that on to remind myself. When you wake up and unravel it all you get that centre piece. You become that centre piece. You become the centre you become it all. But you come back, ya lost again and u know your back in bullshit land. That video from Leo, ‘what is reality’ is possibly the greatest piece of work of all time. Ya know your sliding back into the bullshit so ya listen to that video again and ya can reground yaself, but not reground as a fool, reground in a little bit higher state of consciousness than that nonsense baseline materialistic level. I know I’m not enlightened. I’ve had enlightenment episodes but I can’t make them stick. To the point I feel as I always did, but I know reality is imaginary??‍♂️. It is the greatest piece of work, once understood once experienced once, once I can’t explain. His highest teaching he says. He ain’t wrong, cus once u get it, there’s no going back. U can go back, and live basic normal life. But you can never really go back, cus u know your full of shit if u do. Greatest piece of work of all time? better than the bible that video haha

Wake up, and quit the bullshit!

Ya know we all sit here and try say we got this shit. Which tbh a good few of us have to a degree. We know it’s fucking imaginary, just like Leo says. It’s a fucking dream. And it fucking is. Many of us have been in states where we know full fucking well this is a dream. I’m dreaming from here, your dreaming from there, leo is dreaming from his little perspective. There really is a few of us that know it. We truly know we’ve awoke on psychs or whatever we fucking know it. But don’t tell me your not still shit scared. Because ya can see it a million times. But yet still ya still shit scared. I am. Leo is too. Cus we’re all still here, babbling rather than just going all out. Leo will be the first to tell ya, he knows but he doesn’t know what the fuck to do with it. Because he doesn’t want to die, he doesn’t know what to do with it. He doesn’t know where to go when this physical system ends. He knows what it is, but he still truly doesn’t know. He doesn’t want to be me, he doesn’t want to be u, and vice versa, we don’t want it the other way. So we cling to what we are, until we’ve no other fucking choice other than to do whatever it’s is that’s forced upon us. Just taking up another conception of self and just being. Just being that conception of self. Same way you can’t help being that concept of self, I can’t help this one, and Leo can’t help that one. Ya just gonna be the awareness rocking about taking on all forms and it’ll always be you. It’ll always just be you. Even if u think there’s someone else over there, there’s no one else over there, it’s just you, all the the time, forever. You will be Leo, you will be me, I will be you, it’s all happening, right now, it’s always us??‍♂️. You think you feel you now an I think I feel me, but I will feel you and you will feel me. It’s just always us. That’s it. Forever and ever. And ever. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet me. Fucking bollocks to it ey. You just make sure you get shit right cus I can’t be assed being you, not having a fucking clue?. So watch Leo’s videos and let’s have a good life hahahaha??

I’m not even sure if this relates tbh. But I had a dream where I went on holiday for 10 days. I lived the full 10 days. Or it certainly felt that way. I woke up, obviously the following morning and was like wtf was that. I even checked my phone to see the time and date to make sure it was the following day. Which of course it was, I’d just had a normal nights 7-8 hour sleep or whatever it was. But I have memories from that dream of the whole 10 days from coming out the airport to heading back to it 10 days later. Still I think that was fucking mental. How on earth could I experience 10 days in 8 hours. For me it was just like well if that doesn’t prove to myself that time is relative then nothing will. Conclusion, time and memories are absolute bollocks. Not that I understand totally how it works but there could be nothing more clear to me when it comes to time

I havnt watched your sadguru video. If I’m honest I can’t be be assed. You don’t need to watch him to realise what self love is. He can spout all sorts, we all can. Ya just realise, ya realise self love. It’s nothing to do with what u hear from anyone else. It’s nothing to do with your thoughts, on or about anything, it’s nothing to do with what u see outwardly, it’s nothing to do with that egoic love ya feel for yourself as in an individual. Or even loving every other human being. It’s absolutely total! It’s loving all that, everything, from what u believe is out there, to everything you feel is inside, and more. It’s everything. It’s the understanding that you are all, the deepest romantic love you can feel for someone, to the shitty pebble you see on the street when ya sat there looking out the window whilst having a cigarette. Understanding that all the feelings and emotions and visual aspects, the life and the death, the pain and the hurt, the love and the hate, from a relative standpoint point, is from an absolute stand point, all you. It’s all you it’s all within your consciousness, and consciousness is all there is, and you are consciousness, and accepting and loving all that is. Self love isn’t just loving your individual self totally, it’s loving all that is. And that, is a miraculously difficult thing to do. Because it means loving everything you hate. Not just accepting it. But loving it. How do you get there? I’ve no idea. But I’m trying?

I think leo should do something special for us for his birthday.... a special video on how birthdays are the biggest crock of shit going seems we were all never ever born to have a birthday ??

You know with these videos, if leo is speaking from start to finish, and you take the speaking literally as in it was a straight line, word for word, word after word, sentence after sentence, then your already lost on what he’s trying to communicate. You can’t just go straight through you’ve got to weave in and out yourself in between what’s being said, use a bit of nouse and interpret what’s being discussed and not just take at face value. Because it is impossible to fully communicate using words alone. I’m not keen on using such phrases but it is a genuine case of ‘read between the lines’ and not just flat out taking in what has been said. It’s a skill to shoot these videos and communicate them in the fashion he does, but don’t disregard the skill needed to take in and interpret the communication from the listening/watching side of things. And to be fair, if Leo is in a state of consciousness where his hand turns into a tentacle, then his hand is a tentacle. Just because from your observing perspective and state of consciousness you may be in at the time his hand is a hand, does not mean that it is a hand. From your state yes from his state no. Granted if he cut off the tentacle, when he returns to a lesser state it would actually be a hand there cut off, but that’s because of the return to that particular state. If he stayed in the state of it being a tentacle forever, then it would always be a tentacle cut off laying on the floor not a hand. You could claim that’s just hallucination, but you’ve got to get to a point where you realise reality is 100% percent hallucination. Different states hallucinate different things. Someone standing in front of you would be hallucinating your face from that perspective in consciousness, yet if there was another person stood behind you they would be hallucinating the back of your head. And you standing in the middle would be hallucinating whatever the hell your focused on looking at. And all that said, all three perspectives are actually happening in the exact same place, which is nowhere. Not one from over there and another from over here, same spot same place, different state of consciousness. It goes so fucking deep it becomes absolutely mid boggling to try and interpret from a limited human perspective. And the great thing about it is, overall I’m nowhere fucking near wherever it fully goes, absolutely nowhere near. But some things are so blatantly obvious without you being able to fully explain through wording and language once you reach particular states yourself especially with the use of psychedelics. Manipulating these things would be another story altogether. And I’ve no doubt that consciousness itself can manipulate anything at all that it wants. One of those things being you not having any idea

To not intervene would be a serious lack of consciousness on your part. No more to be said on the matter really

@Javfly33 ? I know, but what else are ya supposed to do. And anyway, I’m not conscious of this right now, I’m just aware that I have been conscious of it during awakenings. To be conscious of these things on a daily basis would be levels upon levels to the extreme of where I currently find myself, that’s a totally different thing altogether. I feel I’m nowhere near. So I’m far from enlightened, and would never claim to be. Just ya average joe still playing the game??‍♂️??

@Someone here your quite obsessed with the idea of solipsism arnt you? I always see you jump on anything to do with the matter. The thing is, the deeper ya seem to go with awakenings, the more solipsistic it becomes. I’ve found it’s a bit paradoxical. Because you can realise your imagining others from this perspective that they are illusionary. But your also imagining them from within them, as your imagining yourself from within yourself. Your imagining everyone from all possible angles simultaneously in the absolute sense outside of the constructs of time and space. Without a single piece of information let’s say missing. Infinitely put together with absolute perfection. So it’s absolutely solipsistic. So although there are others, there actually isn’t, because it is all you. From the relative perspective, you are literally visualising nothing other than a hallucination of another version of yourself. That’s kind of a short description of what I’ve realised. There wouldn’t be enough space on this forum to go into detail. These things need directly experienced. And within 10 minutes of realisation you could contemplate and realise enough that would write you a 200 page essay on. I’m not sure what you’ve done or what methods you might have used to gain any insights, or whether you just mentally masturbate over these issues as the phrase goes. Either way, the further and deeper you go, the more outrageous it all gets

@Big Steve I’ve mentioned a few times, address this issue with the teachings of Neville Goddard. Read his books, without straight up believing, try to clarify for yourself. The myths can be shattered

@Meditationdude I feel you. Exactly the same. 2 people. A good friend, and one of my brothers. Only I wouldn’t claim self actualised, more along the lines of still in the process of self actualising. I’ve previously tried to drop some of my realisations, deep ones to other family members and see them hit a brick wall, like I’m fantasising. I tried to just lay some ground work with a mate full on stage orange type mate in the pub once, and within 2-3 minutes I was being ridiculed, just the idea of imagining everything was so ludicrous to him it was a complete joke. Oh actually there was one girl who seemed interested in what I was saying and actually began listening to a fair few of Leo’s videos, but I knew was not doing any of the work and just decided she agreed and took it on board that she was god from a completely deluded materialist perspective, completely ego driven, maybe like stage blue religious belief type thing, not conscious in any way of it being the case. We parted ways and I fully aware that her slight dabble in these teachings are over. Back to being just ya average everything is real materialist. But I totally get ya, if I went into work or down the pub and seriously put forward my realisastions then I would be labelled an absolute barn pot, like I’ve lost the plot and gone mad. Full of absolute delusion. And the minute I brought psychedelics into the equation labelled a drugie, because I personally know of no one other than the 2 people that know what I’ve been upto the last few years who understand what psychedelics are. They lob them in with cocaine and that so that’s how I’d be labelled. And they would no doubt I’m absolutely certain that the claim would be the drugs have gone to my head. It is a delicate situation so I completely understand. In a way though I’ve got to the point where even though I’d like to share these things, the fact I know of no one who would seriously take the time and research, investigate and do the work, because they’re far to wrapped up and immersed in life with all ya bang average belief systems on life and death and materialistic reality in general, I’m now content with just keeping on my own path doing my own thing. Others involvement could very well become a distraction anyway. It’s much easier now to know the type of person that would be worth dropping these things into conversation with. Ya can work out within 5 minutes if you converse with someone properly by their whole attitude and demeanour if there’s a possibility of interest. But yea again, I get your point

That was a seriously good video mate. I’ll admit I didn’t think I’d be taking in much more than 10 minutes of it when I noticed how long it was going to be. Ended up just putting my phone to the side, feet up and listening to a great piece of work. Very intriguing and genuine. Good stuff. Highly recommended ??

@Gianna I’m as equally not upto meditating my way to mind fuckery haha. Psychedelics is my way??‍♂️. Many will tell you the same

@Gianna so now you get it, conceptually, become conscious of it. That is a much greater wow than the wow you’ve just experienced. An Infinitely greater wow. Mind fuckery at its best?. The conceptual getting it still will not prepare one for the becoming conscious of it. But it’ll certainly hold you in better stead. No matter how you’ve got it, it will blow your mind in ways that are still unimaginable to you. Even if you just become conscious of it for 10 seconds. Sit there for an hour or 2 conscious of it and you could very well believe you’ve gone totally insane. Which is terrifyingly beautifully brilliant?

? funny funny post this had me laughing. Probably something to do with your ego’s misinterpretation of walking down some filthy streets where there a lot of unconscious people not cleaning up their dogs shite