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@mandyjw If you're a Woman, I said I wouldn't buit I HIGHLY recommend Ananda Devi as a teacher she's also a women, at the least check out her book 'Intimacy With The Infinite' which is a spiritual autobiography (similar to Adya's) filled with insights throughout, I'm biased but I think it's awesome. She used to run a Women's group Satsang, not sure if she still does. PM me for a link or just type her name in on Amazon, been told I can't post commercial links.

@Consept Yes exactly, he has an incredible ability to be able to post this much content to be fair to him, but like you say the difference between him and fully self realised teachers is night and day. But, that is the issue 1000s clearly see him as a guru, and of course he's going to enjoy that at least a little, just depends to what extent, and that's where the dangers lie. Problem is now he has such a big following, and many depend on his teachings so to speak, and like you said young people are incredibly impressionable, I was about to embark on a psychedelic journey at 18/19 because of his teachings and because a lot of young people get into it anyways, so it felt normalised, that's where to me the real dangers lie, as people just aren't that responsible with drugs. And, you never know if certain people like Psyches too much they might turn to other shit to cope. I know many people who went Raves, started with MDMA, went on to Shrooms and Acid and then are popping Xanax and shit like that, I know Leo is not promoting that at all, but with young people it's easy to see how it could go. I mean look at Juice Wrld yesterday I know it's only psychedelics and people will say oh we would never do drugs like that, but young people who aren't feeling great might not want to wait 2 weeks for another trip or 3 months to take MD again, I used to be a big pusher of MDMA and Psyches but realised the dangers first hand. Again, not saying they aren't useful tools. @mandyjw Well yeah I get you, ultimately there is no other, so Leo is only teaching himself, however I'm not sure he's embodied that concept and teaching from the Self, like say Ramana clearly was. Therefore, I know what you mean, but there's so many teachers that begin to teach very early or after only a couple awakenings. In Leo's case it just seems its made things a lot harder as he's almost having to post videos every week which is a challenge in itself while on this journey. Like I said I feel for him on that point.

@Nak Khid Not for me to say how Leo should spend his life, it's his life. However, I agree potentially doing too many things can make it very difficult for him, I love his PD and Politics videos the best. Maybe, he should give himself time to 'work' on his own awakenings, I can't imagine the burden that every time he has an awakening or goes online had 100s of questions of posts asking him about so many topics, that he might not fully have the answer to yet, compare that to the majority of people in this process who only have their own awakening to worry about, and will maybe begin to teach when they're ready.

@ajasatya Okay,I suspect my wording was wrong, sorry for the confusion. Yes, of course you are your own guru and responsible for your awakening. But, what I mean is many people/ teachers will study/ work with a teacher who helped them awaken (Unless they had a spontaneous awakening e.g. Ramana) for example Rupert worked with Francis, many worked with Nisgardatta etc etc, what I mean is I'm not entirely sure his method of 2 hour long videos and psyches promotion is the best way to go about this work, personally I feel working 1-1 with a teacher is by far the best way to do this, unless you're lucky enough to awaken spontaneously, but even then that can come with it's difficulties. By the way, I don't mean Guru worship in this like the old days, or becoming part of a cult, just utilizing a Self-Realized beings teachings to 'push you over the edge' so to speak. Sorry if my wording came across poorly, but I believe teachers 'can do shit' and help their students awaken, but yes you are your own guru.

Here's an honest critique @Leo Gura Before I want to say thank you for the many awesome teachings you provide, especially on PD and Politics I found them the most useful, and for this forum which is another great thing you have developed, so for all the ways you helped I'd like to say thanks, and this isn't to shit on you but is based on my own opinions, members of the forum I talk to regularly and then some people outside this forum who know of you and watch you. These are based on your spiritual teachings. 1) You teach based on insights it seems- Been said already, so won't go into much detail, the embodiment of your trips leaves much to be desired, and that is the main 'issue' I have with psyches, you've clearly had incredible insights, but It doesn't come across that you live these in your day to day life at all, and I just want to point out these amazing insights from Psyches are great, but it's the 'permanent' changes that really have improved my life 1000 fold, from my minimal Psyche experience they were great and gave some insights, but nothing compares to the immovable silence I feel now. 2) Risk of promoting Psychedelics to those under <25 - I'm not demonizing psyches, of course they can be awesome, but the way you talk about them, you make out as if everyone who's 'pursuing' enlightenment needs them, which is far from the case, you're probably one of the only, if not the only, teacher pushing them and promoting them so heavily, these are still drugs. I saw someone on here saying how they had to go to rehab due to psychedelic abuse and was really struggling in life, you have to remember a lot of people that come on here are going to be going through emotional/ mental issues, so immediately recommending someone to use psychedelics is risky. I personally know someone who ended up in a mental hospital on 2 separate occasions after an Acid trip, as after he couldn't stop seeing his Dad, who has passed away, so for people doing them please be careful, especially if you're under 25 as our brains aren't fully developed. Also, many people on here are not ready for the level of responsibility that comes with using those sorts of drug, while you can be responsible Leo it doesn't mean the kids and teenagers and young adults who follow you can, and many will simply copy you due to the position they are in, I was so close to doing just that, but am beyond glad I pursued a different path which for me has worked amazingly. Again, not shitting on Psyches but everyone here makes out they're the only/ best thing on this path, which simply isn't the case. For some maybe but not all, think about all the great masters and recent masters, how many used Psyches? Food for thought. If they work for you, great I'm glad 3) Concepts Concepts Concepts - I would love to know how many people you've directly awakened Leo, I suspect it's not very many, as your videos on spiritual topics tend to be hours upon hours of concepts, and yes I understand the need for theoretical foundations and understandings, especially for beginners. But, there becomes a time when all concepts must be burned, even the concept of enlightenment. Theoretical knowledge is nothing compared to actually living this teaching and surrendering yourself to the now truly. Words are merely pointers, and Silence is the highest teaching of all, Ramana only 'invented' self-inquiry for those who weren't ready for silent transmissions. Your mind will NEVER understand the absolute, it cannot, as anything is spoken about the absolute is 100% false, you cannot utter a word about it that is true. Sometimes, it feels as if you use your videos as a way to get your social needs met, I understand it's easy to do, but have you potentially neglected your human needs due to this work, you mention you don't work out anymore also, remember we are Human (cue a non-dual backlash here), and these are important things to take care of in our lives, if anything true self-realization makes you more human and more yourself than ever before. And, like I said, concepts and words are great to help, but the true teaching is merely silence and if you're still trying to understand it with your mind, you'll be chasing your tail forever, I know as I was doing just that for almost 2 years and if anything I only got further and further away. 4) Teaching without being truly awakened/ self-realized- This one I feel for you on Leo. You positioned yourself as a teacher so early in your journey, then let's be real you were as confused as everyone else, the burden of having 100's if not 1000's of people waiting for your every word on this topic must be very draining, when you yourself were only at the start of your journey back in 2016 I think it was. This can create a huge issue for you and your followers. Even now, it's hard to say you're truly self-realized, if you think I'm being critical, watch/ read some of the great recent masters such as Ramana/ Nisgardatta or for more western feels Rupert Spira/ Francis Lucille/ Adyashanti who are all clearly fully self-realized. I am biased to my own teachers who are also amazing, but I won't mention as I feel that would be slightly biased lol. There are clear differences in the teachings, clear as day, which is why I say there are much better teachers out there for this work in my opinion. But, Leo your perseverance and determination in this work are admirable! 5) If you don't agree with Leo good luck lasting on this forum- A couple people you've gradually wormed out of here, I understand it's your school and you can promote what you believe in but it seems slightly unfair to ban people who were helping people on here, but it's your forum so I guess that is fair. I think I'll stop there. Like I said I have a lot to thank you for Leo, especially those Spiral Dynamics and Conscious Politics series, among many other great videos you have done. But, like anyone you aren't perfect and I certainly am not either, neither are my teachers etc etc. But, if I'm honest I feel there are quite simply 'better' (frowned upon word in this community) 'spiritual teachers' (In reality there's nothing to teach because THIS IS IT) out there who will help awaken people, let's say more efficiently. Maybe, that's not the best term but I hope people get what I mean, if someone was to ask me for teacher recommendations regarding Awakening I know who I'd send them to, but if they were to ask for Personal Development, Politics foundations or even Life Purpose advice Actualized.org would certainly be a recommendation. I hope this doesn't result in a ban or whatever and I hope we can still have some great discussions on here Leo, I know you disagree with a lot of things I've said too, and I still look forward to the Capitalism vs Socialism video when it comes out Have an awesome day everyone.

@Nak Khid I agree, you can have teachers and learn from people, without being loyal and worshipping them.

@How to be wise Yeah they're deep but if your just after Non-Duality teachings I hate to break it to you there's much better teachers out there. I'm not debating Leo's teachings go very deep, but just take a look around here, how many people are actually awakened lol, see a lot of trip reports but not many permanent enlightenment/ awakening/ full self-realization reports. Not shitting on the forum, I think it's a great area for discussion, but Leo simply isn't the only non-duality teacher who goes deep, and there's many better than him imo. I mean the person in your DP is probably a much better place to start. Think of the great masters like Ramana and Nisgardatta and in more modern terms Rupert, Francis Lucille and Ramaji and potentially tens if not hundreds more are better at this. Again, I'm not shitting on Leo, he's incredibly young and has positioned himself as a teacher probably too early before he was even remotely awake, and there's thousands of young people with no clue about this getting incredibly confused, it's a hard situation for him, incredibly hard. But, I don't think it's as simple as 'you don't get these teachings,' plenty of teahcers go just as deep, and have had much more time to truly embody their awakenings and aren't teaching from insight alone. I also strongly disagree with his main recommendation being Psychedelics especially when talking to a very young audience, yes they can give incredible insights but to deny the risks is very naive. Again, I have great respect for Leo and his teachings, certain videos have helped me a lot, but he's far from perfect especially as a 'Spiritual Teacher.'

Just thought I’d share this amazing council estate I came across on FB that clearly employs long term thinking, and is hugely benefiting thousands of people. its created an amazing community also by the seems of it, the UK defo need something like this, our council estates are looked down upon and mostly areas where crime and poverty is highest, nothing like what you see in the video, another European country showing how it’s done.

I like aspects of Actualized.org, but agree his devout followers basically agree with every word he says. Leo is an awesome PD teacher, his SD and Politics series were great to say the least. Is he a great spiritual teacher? I’m not too sure on that one yet, it’s early in his journey but right now I could suggest much “more helpful” teachers in terms of spiritual growth than Leo. I feel for Leo though, he’s had to teach from day 1 of his journey near enough, and let’s be real he was teaching without actually being awakened, which comes with a huge set of problems. If Actualized.org is your only source or has been your only source of spirituality, I feel really sorry for you, that’s all I’ll say. Again, amazing for PD and conceptual things, that’s Leo’s strong point. This isn’t meant to be me slagging off Leo, I enjoy a lot of his videos and what he’s created is awesome, but from speaking with several people on here, a couple in the Spiritual community etc, and my own direct experience, and even just looking at the “results” you see on here it’s very clear that there’s much, much more effective Spiritual teachings out there. But as I said it’s still really early doors for Actualized.org in terms of spiritual teachings, so it would be unfair to judge overall I feel

@Nickyy i completely agree with basically every point you’ve made. here in the UK Amazon pay fuck all in tax, yet exploit workers for the fun of it, it’s a bit of a joke, and the worry is if we clamp down on tax under Corbyn they’ll just go elsewhere and then 1000s of jobs could be lost. These companies have far too much power as it is. but people just saying to boycott them also seems a bit unpractical. like I said I can’t just stop selling on amazon, as they are such a huge platform. Power of these companies needs to be reduced, and workers need to actually be treated fairly, but it seems we’re a long way from that, change can be frustratingly slow at times. Yeah, hence Ideological green isn’t the answer, just to abolish all of capitalism as it ignores the upsides of their “enemy” as many ideologies do unfortunately.

Hey @Leo Gura and any other politics lovers. I've been getting more into it recently with the UK elections coming up, and am re-watching Conscious Politics for the 3rd time but this time actually taking notes. I also read some of your blogs and on here Leo that said you wasn't Socialist/ Communist at all, and considered yourself a progressive. You said you had critiques of Socialism/ Communism but I couldn't seem to find them so I thought what better than to start a thread on it. i'd love to know a list of critiques you have because for many young people this becomes a clear ideology, just look on twitter and you'll find the Communist/ Socialist twitter VERY quickly lol. These thoughts came about, as I didn't see any great replies to this threadL from this guy Obviously, he's responding to stage orange capitalism with his Stage Green 'Luxury Communism' I think he calls it, well he tried to sneak in the Communism definition without actually saying Communism 'ok you dont like capitalism but what are you planning to replace it with ?' Common ownership of the means of production This guy has made this into a huge ideology, go through the replies and see, he's also simplified World Hunger to Jeff Bezos just being able to throw money at it, so seems a very stage Green person. I then also pose the question, to reach the Stage Yellow Cap-Soc hybrid how far will we need to delve into green, so how deep we will need to socialism, will Bernie/ Jeremy Corbyn be enough, or will we even need to go further left than that? By the way I am certainly not supporting Stage Orange excess capitalism we have now, but this thread makes out as if Capitalism 100% evil and Communism the most perfect thing ever existed, which is of course clear ideology. The other issue with this is he will create a shadow around business/ starting a business etc, so will never be able to prosper in the current system it seems, as he believes all profit is 'stealing' and unethical with is a very naive way to look at things. Starting a business that genuinely helps people and isn't some sort of vintage Stage Orange corruption, should be rewarded imo and not all labor/ work is created equally, hence not everyone deserves exactly the same pay. However, do agree all humans deserve basic necessities at the minimum and people shouldn't really have Billions lying around, when people in the same country are starving and homeless. Let's not even go into other countries. So, I see why people turn to these 'movements' as the develop into Green. Looking forward to discussing and learning more.

@Raptorsin7 Unlucky bro, learn from it and grow, no need to beat yourself up, once you've learned all you can from it, then move on and smash the next game. Aggression is great in sport as long as you're not hurting other players on purpose, but too much aggression can actually negatively effect performance we done it in Psychology, there's like an optimum level to help you hit the 'Zone.'

Such a key point, just be aware not t demonize thoughts. Investigate and question thoughts, arrive at the silence, rest in the absolute and once awareness becomes the base of your experience thoughts are no longer a problem as there's no sticky 'me' at the center, then the mind is simply used as the tool it is, and you're no longer a slave- which is of course fucking amazing.

@tenta Yes I see your point. As you say he isn't interested and that could be seen as me saying an excuse for him but it isn't, I just mean more would need to be done than throwing money at it, simply systems would need to be put in place to help these countries sustainably grow and thrive, I don't believe any human needs $117 Billion, it's quite ridiculous, however at the same time while Amazon has HUGE issues with worker rights etc, they have changed the face of the world, therefore, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any money. Without Amazon, small business owners like myself would really struggle to grow, as would independent authors, sellers etc, it's a double-edged sword, I really hope companies like this start to evolve to stage green though, although like you said it seems unlikely until they are forced to. @Cocolove Could you link it.

@Husseinisdoingfine I hear you man, that sounds like some serious growth which is great. To me, hardcore socialism seems similar to militant Vegansim (I'm vegan myself so am familiar with the militants lol) as in it comes from a place of love, but still becomes a clear ideology, to the point 'Marxists' believe capitalism has done 0 good for the world and they become quite delusional about communism and pure socialism, so it to me seems very Ideological Green. Whereas, Bernie seems like very healthy green that the world needs, we need more socialistic aspects in our economy for sure, in the UK we have the NHS which gives free healthcare to all, I think in 2019 everyone should have shelter, food and clean water and healthcare, the bare essentuals to survive, and it isn't 'fair' that people hoard billions in excess when their is such unjust. But the solutions aren't exactly simple and straightforward or we wouldn't be here, but I think like any point of view their is some truths to Communism, Socialism and Capitalism. The hard part, is learning how to integrate these political theories to create the best society possible, that is as fair as possible without stifling the innovation business provides, for example I think it's incorrect to say any profit made is 'stealing' from workers, yet I also believe Taxes should be much higher for the richest and much more progressive, but this is why developing a Stage Yellow economy will be so complex as it's finding that balance and it could take centuries to get this right. And, like you say not everything conservatives say is complete trash, they have important policies, and stage orange is an important stage to be integrated. I'm hoping Corbyn (Bernie equivalent other here) gets in power next Thursday but I'm not sure he will unfortunately so it will be another 5 years under conservatives with very little progression made. It's good not to have to stick labels on things, personally I want the best society possible, that helps as many people as possible, and Conservatives certainly aren't that, ideally we will reach a stage Yellow society in our lifetime but I highly doubt it. @Leo Gura second what he says, that Capitalism vs Socialism video would be awesome, perhaps time it early next year and use it as a way to help people understand Bernie

@Alexander78 Would love to try when you make an App store version mate.

@Leo Gura Okay cool. Can you recommend some resources for learning about a Stage Yellow economy, or critiques of these models from a stage yellow perspective instead of the typical orange.

@Leo Gura I completely agree Pre and Post awakening Self-Help is incredibly foundational and important. As you say in your 35+ Subfields of Self Help, Enlightenment/ Awakening does not solve all issues in life at all.

@Leo Gura I see. So if you were to state your 5 biggest critiques of Socialism and Communism as political models to follow, as well as how to criticize them from a Yello standpoint instead of a typical resistant Orange standpoint which is what they are used to. For example, how do you respond to these sequences, they start with a critique of Socialism/ Communism from a Capitalist stand point, then he answers rebutting that, how would you then critique that from a higher stand point. 'Millionaires and Billionaires deserve their excessive wealth because they took all the risk' 'If I took a gamble to set up a sweatshop making shoes in my basement paying slave wages and if they don't work for me they'll starve, do I still deserve all the money I made off of that sweatshop?' 'what if I'm a millionaire, I wouldn't want to pay those taxes" what can I say other than you never will be a millionaire so quit being daft' 'Yeah mate you're not gonna be a millionaire because the best predictor of becoming richer is being born into a family already with a lot of capital to be able to act as a safety net for any potential gambles (such as entrepreneurialism)' and another one 'Socialism has never worked' 'Socialism worked at making the Soviet Union the second most powerful force on Earth in fifteen years. Socialism worked at getting Cuba a lower infant mortality rate and higher life expectancy than the United States.' Sorry for the long replies, its an area I desperately want to deepen my knowledge in.

@Leo Gura Regarding your booklist, do you still recommend reading Traditional Self Help books post awakenings to help Self Actualize ones self and improve certain areas of life? Would you also say to add the deeper teachings to those like Nathaniels to get the most out of them? I still feel there is key lessons from Stage Orange PD to implement in life, as with all the topics on your book list, to create the best life possible.

@TrynaBeTurquoise I'd also argue that yes Skills are obviously essential but what separates the great from the good is the mental side of the game. In football in the UK, we always see incredibly talented young players, however those that truly become World Class, have elite mentalities and incredible consistency, no use having all the ability and putting in 1/10 good performances. Don't underestimate the mental side of competitive sports, but of course I'm not denying foundational skills are essential but I thought that would be a given.

@Raptorsin7 Don't set up too many expectations, especially if you're the best player. One play at a time, only the now matters, you've missed/ made 100 shots this game? Who cares? All that matters is this play now, and what you need to do in this moment. That's what helped me in my sport, taking it one play at a time, I'm from the UK so our basketball was nowhere near US levels but school/ local basketball was always fun for me, however I was never really good or tall enough to take it any further, but it's an awesome sport. Good luck man and know within yourself you're capable of smashing it.

No, it's definitely not, but I don't mean the mainstream horoscpes you see, they probably won't be great most of the time. You'd have to dig deeper if you was interested in it, and it could help you understand yourself a lot more to be fair, just like the Enneagram can, remember Self-Realization isn't the only thing in the world, you'll still have a personality after enlightenment so Personal Development will still be important, and is actually easier Post-Awakening as there's no I-Thought sabotaging you, that's what I've found anyways.

@Inliytened1 Good description ngl. Too much focus on the 'Destruction of Ego' when in reality you'll still have a personality after enlightenment and still be 'you.' However, there is no 'me' at the centre of your feelings, thoughts etc, it's hard to describe in words without confusing someone so I'll stop for now lol.

@sausagehead Start with reading some of these authors- Ramaji, Ramana Maharshi, Nisgardatta Maharaj, Rupert Spira etc Either start working with a teacher 1-1, PM me if you wanna know my teachers, or use Psyches or some sort of technique to help yourself awakening. As a result of deep awakenings into love your love will deepen naturally, and compassion will flow out of you effortlessly.