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Hi all. Today I came to the perspective that I think I meet the criteria for having an internet addiction. I understand some might say that I shouldn't label myself, but for now I think its an important step for me in my journey. I was wondering if anyone can relate to this. Also, whether anyone had any resources. To my understanding, I've already watched all of Leo's vid on addiction and believe I understand that perspective. So, I think I would be particularly curious to hear about other perspectives. Also, if anyone has experience dealing with PTSD/ C-PTSD and internet addiction I would like to hear about that too. I'm pretty confident that internet addiction is a means by which i cope with the symptoms of, what i see to be, CPTSD.

@Raptorsin7 I like it dude! I'd say the same with me re being shamed. Rn, i'm watching the emotions that come up when I watch this vid. I'd say i usually would be pretty triggered by the thought that someone would say that im like either of these two. However, I just sat with my emotions and did the whole letting go technqiue on them, and now I'd say I'm a lot more comfortable with the idea of it, like it doesn't seem to me like it would be as big a deal.

@Raptorsin7 I relate to that dude. Firstly, that's why i set the timer, I think its probs does some help to just have awareness of it even if it doesn't obviously have an effect. Secondly, that's why i also currently choose to do things that trigger me, mostly via music or youtube vids atm, or external world, i.e. doing something slightly out of the norm and then sitting with the emotions. It seems to me you were getting triggered by people shaming you for advocating that Nick Fuentes guy, so perhaps go watch vids of people shaming the fuck out of him. Someone like Hasanabi might be a useful one. and have awareness on the emotions that come up, if they do, for a while.

@StarStruck You're welcome dude. I based my comment off what you wrote in the post. I didn't watch the vid. I'd say I picked up on the idea of your maybe spreading false narratives mainly because of my perception of the absoluteness of your language and what i saw to be sweeping statements. Does that make sense to you?

@StarStruck Respectfully, it seems to me that you make quite a lot of sweeping generalisation in your posts and comments. I note you say 'Tate speaks to the truth about male-female dynamic', to me that sounds like a lack of nuance. I respect what I see to be a courage and determination in your posts. For it seems to me you are willing to be the odd one out and speak up for things you believe in. However, I think the seeming lack of nuance in numerous of your posts and comments will mean that whilst you may well be helping in some aspects, i.e. bringing awareness, getting people to take action, in other ways I think you will likely be spreading false narratives. It appears to me that you come across as a confident guy. With that, to my mind, numerous folks will see you as an authority figure, and I think they'll be more likely follow their interpretation of what you say, compared to the average actualized user. So it seems to me that you might accidentally mislead some folks with the way you present your views, and the seeming sweeping way you appear to me to make them. I'm not trying to say its necessarily your responsibility, but I just want to bring this perspective to your awareness. Nonetheless i think there are a lot of admirable aspects to your viewpoints and posts, and I think there is a lot of value in various aspects of them.

@Leo Gura Lmao!

I really like the idea! I don't think Amsterdam is nearby enough for me tho

@Raptorsin7 My essential understanding is the following. Notice an emotion, place your awareness on the emotion until either the emotion goes away or transforms into something else. I also like to set a timer sometimes in case the emotion doesn't change for a while, i.e. 10mins. And ye I like your perspective on triggers.

@Gabith Hey again dude, pleased to hear from you. Sounds to me like you had a situation you were uncomfortable about, came up with a solution and were assertive about implementing that solution. Respect! Also, looks to me like you've noticed some areas you want to grow in. I wish you well in those efforts.

@Superfluo Thanks. I liked the start of the one on literary theory. I found it pretty hard to understand tho. I think it would be hard to understand for a lot of folks who aren't too familiar with postmodernism but I'd say that's more of a guess from me.

@Superfluo I like it dude. I've personally found some of them to be a bit ideological, i.e. author comes at it from a certain perspective and doesn't seem to me acknowledge its just one perspective. Do you have any books in the series you particularly liked?

Congrats on the seeming progress bro! I look forward to hearing how things continue to progress for ya.

@Raptorsin7 My guy, you tried letting go by Hawkins? You could apply it when something on the forum triggers you. I just learnt about it recently and I'd say I'm spending a lot of time just watching things and engaging with content that traditionally triggers me and letting the emotions play out. Like I'd say i've started getting excited on various occasions when I've noticed something triggers me!

@Leo Gura You said things like what you said here in your video, to my recollection. Would you not say this is you making a policy proposal?

Personally I don't really care too much about Leo's specific policy proposals in the videos. I think they are likely hit or miss. What I do think is gold is the way Leo is seemingly trying to think about it. In terms of a system. If you do X and want Y to occur, also Z, A and C will occur as well, and if you want to be in government, I think you need to take total responsibility for the choices you make. I.e. it could be that the LGTBQ+ movement actually leads to more people getting raped, say because of an ego backlash by an angry male sub-demographic. Orange thinks it does this, imo, but to me its painfully unaware of its self bias, i.e. treats science as unbiased when science has a lot of self-bias. Green also, imo, gets arrogant about its awareness of social constructs and doesn't take into account the needs that are met by these social constructs existing In a way its like you gotta think about it like you're making a zoo. I.e. if a gorilla dies in your zoo, you as the zookeeper say what did we do such that this event occurred. You don't blame the freaking gorilla. Side note rip harambe.

Maybe sedona method it

@Superfluo yep a few actually

Hey @Tyler Robinson Have you tried the letting go technique by David Hawkin's? To my understanding, you essentially notice an emotion, keep your awareness on the emotion until it transforms or goes away. I was thinking you could use the technique to deal with these emotions of guilt. If you want a way to help the guy be less likely to feel ashamed after getting rejected, a 'I wish you well' could do the trick imo.

@KH2 Do you think it was the content of OP's message that you are reacting to here or are you actually responding to an emotion that you felt when reading OP's post? It seems you felt some anger and disgust whilst reading the original post. I think it could be worth your contemplating on why those emotions, if my guess is right, came up. Have you also considered the effect that the contents of your comment might have on OP? I think it could be useful for you to consider

@UpperMaster Yo dude, sounds like you're feeling vengeful, and are v interested in status atm. I respect your seeming ability to recognise that in yourself. I'd recommend looking into letting go by David Hawkins and looking into doing some therapy. Imo, learning to let go is a bit like having a superpower.

I think there were numerous useful points you made here. I don't feel competent enough to speak on the non-duality points you made in terms of whether Leo's claims are accurate or not. The way I tend to see it is that when it comes to non-duality these days Leo behaves more like a philosopher than a mentor. It seems to me like he is concerned with gaining more and more insight, and just sharing that insight. However, it seems to me that he has already made quite a lot of content on non-duality. Both in terms of based on his own conclusions, and also the teachings of numerous others, i.e. neti-neti. I agree with you regarding Leo's style of communication on the platform. I think he is repeatedly abusive in many of his communications and I feel upset that it continues. With regards to the forum, I think you are looking at the forum through a stage green lens. I have repeatedly been conflicted about whether to continue using the forum or follow the channel on multiple occasions. However, I believe I am of a greater understanding of why the platform is as it is. I think its because actualized.org is designed to be a stage yellow content provider, not stage green. And to be effective the actualized content will need to appeal to people at all sorts of different stages, i.e. red, blue, orange, and so people will be attracted to the forum from various different levels of consciousness. A stage green platform, to my mind, would cater really well to stage green folks. However, I don't think it would be so useful when it comes to drawing in lower stage people. For example, the why I hate men/ women debate wouldn't, to my mind, make sense in a stage green forum, but it does in a yellow one because if you cancel out those debates the people from that level of consciousness, to my mind, will end up leaving. Now, whether the forum actually manages to effective do spiral wizardry to get folks up stages of consciousness I think is a different matter. I think the Leo and the mod team tend to drop the ball when it comes to that. Regarding other minutia, and how the lifestyle of the west isn't that great. I think that is a stage green perspective you are holding there. To my mind, its important to get healthy integration of all the stages of the spiral. If you go to india I imagine you will find lots of beautiful spirituality over there. However, I also imagine next to the ashram you will find people dying in the streets. The west, to my mind, has serious limits. However, to my mind, in most cases, the political structuring and level of society is significantly higher in consciousness in western countries. To my mind not integrating the lower stages like orange will leave a person or society in a very precarious position and they will suffer greatly for it. On the personal level, Green self help is fab until you, i.e., get a bill for your mum's cancer treatment that you cannot afford, or you can't afford the rent, and your close family dynamic lacks boundaries and emotional incest occurs. All the stages have something one can learn from imo.

I note @Leo Gura says to feel into the body sensation and then signal to let go. But what is meant by signal? Do I internally voice 'let go'? Do I imagine letting go? Would appreciate help on this.

@integral Merci

@integral I'm good at this game? I'm curious about what you mean

@The Mystical Man I find this to be such a profound song