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https://www.yogapoint.com/pranayama/Surya_bhedan.htm Edit: Btw, on a personal note, I would be curious to hear feedback about this technique. Even if its just this had no effect on me . Feel free to PM.

Ngl was expecting this fred ?:

Fairs dude. sorry for being passive aggressive btw

Ok big man, how many approaches you done?

@StarStruck Death, and aging are one of the key reasons I find spirituality so important. Personally I would like to live as long as I can. But only if i have some mastery of spirituality.

If you are good at vipassana, can you just use that whilst having bad trips? As in would you even be able to remember that you know vipassana. I've never tripped before. But seemingly if you can, then you could deal with intense emotions with much more ease

Also, here is an alternative version of the technique: https://www.reddit.com/r/Meditation/comments/31ss86/mahasistyle_noting_aloud/ Essentially, its the same technique just with spoken labels.

https://www.bps.lk/olib/bp/bp503s_Mahasi_Practical-Insight-Meditation.pdf ^Link to free pdf book, written by the technique's creator (Mahasi Sayadaw) Its a form of vipassana meditation that works using primary and secondary objects of attention.

Fairs dude, I'll respect your wishes on that.

Could you elaborate please. I.e. what do you define as 'I'?

@StarStruck I mean I think a core belief of this whole actualized.org thing is that, in the relative sense, humans have no free will.

So anarchism?

Abstract meaning So, for me ‘primary and secondary noting’ refer to techniques that involve: - 1) Noting/ labelling one, ‘primary’ sensory experience. - 2) When any other sensory experience comes into awareness, the meditator notes/ labels that sensory experience in some way. For example, until there is a ‘gone’. Then intention is returned to noting/ labelling the primary sensory experience again. Meaning in the mahasi system I take the terms from Mahasi's meditation technique. Here is my understanding of how the terms are used there. My understanding there is that you have a primary object of meditation: Rising and falling of abdomen. The practice involves noting these rising and falling sensations, and labelling 'rising' and 'falling'. However, as you practice, other sensory experiences will come into awareness. These other sensory experiences are the ‘secondary objects’. Essentially, in Mahasi’s system any sensory experience which is not the primary object (rising/ falling sensations of the abdomen), is classed as a secondary object of meditation. In Mahasi’s system, you then note and label the secondary object in a certain way, i.e. if its thinking, then you note and label the thinking until it disappears. After that you return to noting and labelling the rising-falling of the abdomen again.

Hi, Anyone know of a meditative practice which involves primary and secondary noting? I want it to be similar to mahasi style noting. However, I would like it to be an absorption/ single-pointed focused practice, rather than an insight/ momentary concentration practice. Thanks in advance.

You're welcome

Guessing you still believe in free will then

I'd say its any distraction that we are powerless to stop ourselves from using.

@StarStruck Cue him seducing you and turning you into one of his webcam girls

@Avanna Overcoming unconscious shame, and paranoia. I have quite serious psychological issues though. I think being trauma & neurodivergence informed could be a great thing to do in this domain. And also would lower risk of misguiding/ damaging vulnerable people too. I see a lot of coaches in these domains who haven't experienced things like autism, cptsd giving out across the board advice. And it angers and saddens me because I'm confident it will mislead and hurt quite a few folk

Why not? Its okay to do what you enjoy

@Leo Gura You the man Leo ?

@Buck Edwards I'd accept and love the you that you perceive to have wasted time. Maybe reflect on why you acted how you did and what lessons you can take from it. For example, why do you think you acted in a lazy manner? Maybe you didn't know how to build habits or you had depression. So, working on those would be something you could do to change your results going forward. Going forward I'd take responsibility for your results. In terms of seeing yourself as the creator of your life. Such that when you encounter obstacles you you think about possible solutions, rather than thinking of yourself as a victim. But, if things don't go your way, I wouldn't blame or fault yourself. Instead, just see whatever results you do get, be them positive or negative, as feedback. Reflect on that feedback, take the lessons, and then move forward bearing in mind those lessons.

@Heart of Space I'd be very careful of devilry with posts like this. Not everyone has the same state of consciousness or ability to do that you do. Things like trauma and disability can make even the simplest of tasks for some demographics of people a nightmare to complete, and really that is even understating it. I've inhabited a more normal state of consciousness, and also an extremely debilitating state of consciousness. And, the difference in ability to do is so stark and nightmarish. If you haven't experienced those levels of consciousness its probably hard to relate but I think views like this are really dangerous. They leave a lot of very vulnerable people behind, and stigmatized.

@vindicated erudite Why do you hold that opinion?

@vindicated erudite To me, I think it would depend on what sort of monarchy someone was proposing. I don't think I'd want any but I think I would more strongly disagree with some forms compared to others. I'm mostly against it because of the risk of tyranny. A consequence of monarchies tending to have much power in the hands of few. Also, because I think monarchies normalize a culture of strong class hierarchy. Which entails members of upper classes being seen as superior in nature to lower classes. Consequently, this risks an othering/ dehumanizing of lower classes, which can lead to the legitimization and normalization of oppression, exploitation and subjection of the lower class. What do you think OP?