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You can wake up. When God awakens, God is woke.

@Arthogaan Yes. Awakening is when you realize that You are God right now and there can be nothing outside Your Consciousness. But from the relative perspective, God keeps shapeshifting forever, and will eventually dream all the other possible dreams. It can also be said that all of them exist at once, because there is no time.

There is only God. God is/imagines/shapeshifts into colors, sounds, thoughts, emotions, body sensations, smells,... To take some of these pehomena, bundle them together and call them a human or a person or someone, is a construct of the mind and an illusion.

Though there also isn't a @Ineedanswers. There are just phenomena that make it seem like there is someone. It's just God/Love. Everything else you say about it is an illusion.

@Ineedanswers Ultimately all your life is an illusion. Past, future, self, other, cause & effect, distinctions (like between pain and pleasure), ... all illusions.

It is up to you to decide what is "pointless" based on which illusions you adopt and which illusions you don't adopt.

Ultimately there is nothing wrong with anything. I recommend living from the relative perspective. Striving for some kind of balance between your happiness and others' happiness.

You mean cherry picking illusions? Sure, you can take the illusions that seem to serve your ego, and ignore the illusions that don't serve your ego. Up to you how you live your life

From the relative perspective, God dreams every possible dream of Infinity. And that of course includes all the dreams of dream characters.

As I wrote, going for your pleasure is ultimately just as illusionary as going for others' pleasure. When you stripped of all illusions it makes cero sense to do something which then leads to pleasure, because self, future, distinctions, and cause & effect are an illusion. So when you truly got rid of all illusions, and someone points a gun at you, you can't comprehend that there is danger and to run away, because self, future and causation are an illusion. If someone offers you a cake, you can't comprehend why to eat it. If someone asks you to jump out of a window, you can't comprehend why not. Therefore living from the ultimate perspective is not practical. Play the game and adopt the relative perspective. And from that perspective you could say God dreams every dream at once.

Because the "you" that is believed to benefit from that is just as much an illusion as others. From the ultimate perspective, buying something nice won't lead to more pleasure for you. Because the self, future and causation are an illusion. From the relative perspective, buying something nice will lead to pleasure for you. But from the relative perspective, you can also say, that God will dream every dream, and therefore from that perspective, others are real too and can experience real pain and suffering.

Yes I guess. Depends on what you mean with "around me" and "everything yet nothing". Then that means you can construct any meaning you want. God enjoys dreaming, God enjoys constructing meanings and getting immersed in the games and dreams. If it doesn't feel like that right now, then that's because the ego is in the way. The ego is still too much in shock, it will get used to it, and again find the excitement of dreaming and games, illusionary or real doesn't matter. The ego needs to let go of the duality between real and illusionary, then the dream becomes enjoyable. Make use of your godly creative abilities, and create a nice dream for you and the people around you.

As @Tim R said, nothing really changed. The dream is still the same. If you could enjoy it before, you can enjoy it now. And as others mentioned, when you have a complete and balanced awakening, it's not negative, but perfect and blissful. You woke up from the dream, but maybe you didn't realize the other facets of awakening equally deeply. Every kind of negativity or depression comes from the ego. It wants it one way rather than another way. With a full ego death, there is no depression. But yeah I understand, right now you probably aren't interested in dissolving your ego more, in order to be happy with Truth, but rather to get back some of the illusion to enjoy the dream as before, the way your ego was used to enjoying it. If you want to go back, forget about spirituality and immerse yourself in the dream, after some weeks you will probably have regained a lot of the illusion (unless you went seriously deep). Or you try to deal with it, integrate it. After some time, which can take months, it will be the new normal. You had a deep awakening, but there is more to understand. Realizing how Creation is perfect, how Oneness is perfect, realizing that it is the best way it could be. Because it means that God is Whole, One and not seperated. You are literally all of Infinity, all of God right now, If you realize this on deeper levels you will realize the Perfectness and Love and Bliss and Beauty that Leo mentioned. Also, You are Infinity, so every person that could ever exist within Infinity is right here. Every possible human, animal, alien and universe shapeshifted into your bubble, became the substance of your bubble, become you, is you. You as God will keep dreaming and shapeshifting for ever, so from a relative perspective, all these other dreams, all these other forms exist too, and from that perspective you also aren't alone.

@Forza21 You just need some time to integrate.

Hey Ethan! In the screenshot you just shared, are you saying that it is possible that all of Infinity can collapse into one single solipsistic experience/bubble, but that Infinity can also shapeshift into simultaneous bubbles? Both scenarios happen at some point within Infinity, but not at the same time?

Interesting video! From the perspective of being in a high state of God Consciousness, the arguments have no weight, because they are imagined. Theoretically this could be delusion, at least from the point of view when you are not in that state. Right now I'm not in that state, so I'm interested in understanding the video. So in the video, he first brings the example of one consciousness having the experience of several bubbles at once, which then is truly only one bubble, still one consciousness and therfore doesn't disprove solipsism, and Ethan says so as well. The interesting part is at 16:30. Here he explains what he calls an unsimultaneous experience. I didn't understand it fully, but from what I understood, it's again experiencing several bubbles at once, but this time it is not a unified experience, so the experiences are seperate, and yet you kind of experience them at once, but each bubble is only consciousness of itself, and therefore theoretically can have a solipsistic God Consciousness. I don't understand his point fully, but to me it kind of sounds like each bubble is conscious of only itself, while at the same time all are experienced simultaneously, and to this I would say, from my biased standpoint, that this is not possible haha. So either there is a solipsistic bubble/cosnciousness conscious of only itself or there is a solipsistic bubble/consciousness that contains apparent seperate bubbles (and each of them appear like this bubble is all that is). But it is not possible that both scenarios happen at once, because that would violate Oneness, IMO. Now, about the second scenario, of one consciousness experiencing phenomena of apparent seperate bubbles, that each seem and believe to be all that is. I've contemplated that scenario several times before, but could never come to a final conclusion because it's difficult to wrap your mind around, maybe it's only possible to understand when you have experienced that yourself (once I've mastered lucid dreaming, I will go for that experience). So the way it seems to me, it is possible to experience phenomena that appear like seperate bubbles, and these phenomena in each of these apparently seperate bubbles, can appear like it is the only bubble, but in the end it's just one consciousness and therefore still solipsitic. That means the way I understand it, that with such an experience, each seperate bubble doesn't have its own consciousness, only phenomena that makes it seem like it has it's own separate consciousness, but actually it has not. So there is only one consciousness, which contains these phenomena that make it seem like seperate bubbles, and that each apparently seperate bubble has a seperate consciousness. Maybe this argument is completely irrelevant because I didn't understand what Ethan said. Also around 28:30 he says some things that I interpret to support what I just wrote. He basically says, that from the pov of one of these bubbles, you know and can be certain that these other bubbles exist at the same time, without actually experiencing them. But how? If it is not in your direct experience, it is not possible to know that they exists, and the knowing is an imagination. This argument might not be relevant because maybe I completely misunderstand "unsimultaneuous experiences". It would be interesting to hear Ethan's/ @Synchronicity thoughts on the part that is underlined and in bold letters.

Maybe. But also, I think it's not possible to never find it. It's paradoxical. Ultimately, time is an illusion, past and future are imagination. So you can imagine an infinite past where you didn't find it, and an infinite potential future where you won't find it. But that is not actual, only the present moment is true. And God is not bound to certain timelines. God can imagine being stuck in an infinte timeline of never finding that object. And then next second, God can just imagine to find it.

Hmmm it's kinda paradoxical. Let's say you as a person can't die and will forever keep searching. I guess it is possible to never find it. While you as God, from the perspective of dreaming one bubble after another, will eventually have to find it. Just my guess.

From the absolute perspective, yes, it's just Consciousness. But from the relative perspective, we can differentiate between high vs low states of consciousness. It's not states of mind though. States of consciousness refers to the degrees of Self-Consciousness and hence also Self-Understanding.

@Seeker_of_truth More consciousness means that Consciousness is more conscious of Itself. When God is in a low state of Consciousness, God believes to be a human, and this appears unquestionable. In a slightly higher state of consciousness, God/Consciousness realizes that It is Consciousness. In a radically higher state of Consciousness, God realizes that It is One, Singular, Love and Infinity. Depending on your state of consciousness, it will apppear obvious, what reality is and how it works. Based on that, you can judge how high your state of consciousness is.

Your ego won't live these lives. Other egos will. But there really is no one that suffers. There might be a sensation/illusion that there is a sufferer, but that is an imagination, like the imagination of a color or sound (not the sufferer, but the sensation/illusion that there is a sufferer!) Ultimately it's all just God. God pretending to be a human, God pretending to be pain. God pretending to be the sensation/imagination that there is someone who feels pain. In that contracted state of consciousness, it can be tough. But later when God is more concious of Itself, conscious of Itself as Love, God realizes that everything is Love, infintely Good and Perfect. Even the apparent suffering, even the misperception of Love, Goodness and pleasure as pain. Therefore God is happy for having been in that contracted state of consciousness, and Loves it just as much as Love, because suffering is Love, and there is no difference between pain and pleasure.

From the absolute perspective both don't make sense, because only this moment exists. From the relative perspective, it makes probably most sense to say that everything happens at once. That's also what OBE masters, occultists and channelled entities tend to say. But when you are in the absolute perspective, and try to come up with a relative perspective, saying that one bubble happens after the other, is closer to direct experience. Because it is seen that God is shapeshifting all the time, so this idea seems reasonable. But practically speaking, I think "all at once" is more true.

It's possible. Therefore there is no free will and control from the absolute perspective. But from the dream perspective, there is. I don't think things are predetermined. It's possible in lucid dreams. With enough mastery, it's also possible in this dream.

Yes, from the relative perspective, all pictures, the whole film reel, exist at once.

Yes, the ego doesn't exist. There are colors, thoughts, emotions and body sensations. But to bundle these together and say that this is a self or a human is a complete illusion. Saying that this bundle of phenomena is "Forza" is no more true than saying it is "Trump" or "a frog".