BlessedLion

It seems like a personality trait to simply not care what other people think that much. I've had this most of my life, it always just made sense to me to follow my intuition and path regardless of what society, mainstream and people think. Negativity does little to you when you know you are aligned with the truth. Trolls simply become entertaining. I hope you can see it like this one day. Also, don't waste your time on people who don't show interest initially, that sounds fucking exhausting.

I’d also love to see any other mind bending books you might’ve found recently. That Book list is life changing

I def agree with you about diminishing returns though, you can only read about enlightenment so much before you have to actually go sit down and do the practices. I would love to find other mind expanding books, but it’s hard to find them. Many of them I just find boring or lacking value

Books keep you locked in and can rewire your brain and are better than your phone

Yes this is what Martin Ball suggests, sounds like the last thing you want to do but might actually work

Did you also do 5 MEO ?

Fantastic job though! Really enjoyed watching this. I'll stop message bombing this thread now haha. Cheers

I think to truly give a powerful talk on this topic, you have to understand their perspective and argument deeply and your reasons for countering it. Just some advice. This is a topic i am also deeply researching online and in real life. I haven't found a solid answer yet, but these days i am actually swaying more towards what the traditional teachers are saying.

I hope i don't sound too critical, i actually love this post and your notes, it's very well-put together with a solid transmission. Just reflecting some things coming up for me.

I've never fully understood this perspective. Feeling hungover and tired is clearly worse than feeling vital, and happy. While it is always only God witnessing all experience, there is a relative heiracrhy of insights and states. As you uncover that you are God, you naturally gravitate towards preferring more God-like states (Vitality, peace, purpose, love)

Sure the human stuff can be a bit depressing if you just stare at the shit. But life in itself is a gift, I think manifest reality is fascinating

@Emerald full honesty I thought we were way more evolved than this. It’s shocking to see, I guess ego development moves extremely extremely slow in the collective. Still largely Blue.

You ever consider going to a proper yoga school? A traditionally based school which teaches yoga under the context of awakening? I think you’d be surprised at what’s out there and how much they can supercharge the path

Sure. But isn’t our goal permanent awakening and to drop tools?

Don’t buy it. Don’t support his company

Ugh. It’s like a thousand steps backwards

@oldhandle for sure! Hit me on DMs

Who gives a shit ?

This is silly, don’t believe what these people say. They like to dramatize trips like that. It’s like your subconscious and processing. I know these kinds of “healers” all too well. Anything that goes weird or wrong is always some kinda fucking entity

@Leo Gura Honestly this is a bit ironic. For years you shit on meditation and the path of “walking up the mountain” and now you’re doing retreats. You said meditation was a waste of time and psychs were the ultimate technology. Meditators were basically pre historic primitive chimps. Luckily I was wise enough not to listen to you in this particular topic because it made no sense, none of the great masters got there through psychedelics and I just had this intuition that it was an ungrounded claim. But many followed your advice and took tons of 5MEO without a grounding or integrative practice like yoga and meditation and got nowhere, or even worse. Now watch the whole forum become avid meditators 😂 At this point I’ve spent 1,200 hours in silent contemplating retreat mode meditation in the last 2 years. That’s the real deal.

It’s much more effective to have a structure if you think you have the discipline mental and emotional to actually focus on meditating a hardcore retreat at home, especially your first time, you are fucked

What Leo is talking about is the purification of the subconscious. When you sit and focus on a single point in meditation (who am I? Stillness, the gaps in between breaths) - all things I learned in Kashmir Shaivism, you begin to purify the subconscious. You might not even be noticing it happening, but it brings your day to day consciousness deeper into that stillness. Something psychedelics, dance, and sex can’t fully do

Yes this is a solid take. You remind me of Peter Ralston his mind is like this as well. I also enjoy simply sitting and allowing my mind to connect to God naturally. With no forcing but maybe nudging it in certain directions. I think focusing on the breath just calms your mind mostly but doesn’t provide much insight

Ive been living abroad for a while and im curious what the vibe in America is these days? Do you feel the political effects in your day to day? All I can see is stuff on the news and based on that I would imagine it must be quite dark and anxious there but maybe not.

Man it’s amazing. The women are beautiful (not just looks but energy too), the weather is warm and it’s affordable. I move between Rio and NorthEast near Recife. I really love it here it’s a great place of life.