Bill W

Wot is it

Love your post Michael and your input. I just query the last bit. Did I miss something in Anna's post about media, instagram etc? Surely there is nothing wrong with having a goal of weight loss if you are overweight? I know where you are coming from with the peer pressure dangers and the fad diets etc, but there is no point being overweight if one can safely get to a safer weight. By safely I mean physically and emotionally.

So what parts are not delusional then?

@Zigzag Idiot This looks awesome. You've done it again Zigzag. Inspired me Love this journel. @Sahil Pandit

If people are "harmed" by Greta talking then so be it. People standing up for the environment are not going to stop just because someone's feelings will be hurt. Tough. She's doing the world a favour.

Lol, fair enough. Okay, it's probably good you don't mention then that often the choice is suicide or spirituality!

Spirituality involves an ever deepening surrender to a power greater than yourself. It is the pursuit of a more meaningful existence where you connect on ever deepening levels with yourself, others, nature, and the Universe as a whole. It is the sacrificing of one half of yourself so the other half can step forward into the light. It is ego and animal instinct modification. Following the spiritual path is always linked to suffering and this suffering has ignited the desire to move away from, and surrender your plan, for His plan. It's usually through your own personal suffering. However, for some, it is the suffering of someone else who has passed their wisdom (spiritual path) directly to you, and you have been blessed enough to receive and act on the wisdom (spiritual path). Future suffering then strengthens the spiritual endeavour as long as you stay on the spiritual path and continue to surrender yourself and your prior plan, surrender your problematic ego states and surrender your problematic animal instincts. Phew... sorry probably too long. I didn't look at Google or books for any of that. I just sat here for 45 minutes and tried to write something that makes sense to me.

Nonsense is usually less valid, unless nonsense is what you want to watch, which of course would then make it valid. There is a thread on the forum for enlightenment jokes and he belongs in there.

Come on, this is a parody. Fake mustache?

I'd be careful with that analogy. Some people reach "peak performance" at the expense of emotional mastery and not because of it. For example, people can high perform in their career and be dependent on substances to achieve this. Substances to self medicate their emotional turmoil once work finishes. Even striving for peak performance can compromise emotional mastery if you are obsessive and compulsive. My idea of emotional mastery is when you can consistently transcend the animal instinct to the benefit of yourself, others and the situation. To be able to resist impulse. To be able to resist instant gratification for longer term gains. To lose arguments and fights you don't really need to win. You control your emotions more than they control you. You park your emotions and feelings for the greater good. Emotional mastery to me is humility without being overly passive or submissive. It's courage without being reckless. It's honesty without using honesty to harm an another. Yeh you could say peak performance to a degree, but a peak performance which is more than performance if that makes sense. You don't even care too much for performance. You have transcended performance.

My take is The are no bullshit thoughts but there are bullshit actions.

Good video. Not sure why he is linking acceptance to "everything is okay as it is" though. Man I love it when someone can deliver a powerful message in a few minutes of video. Keep it simple. Job done. Great message he gives.

@pluto Thanks for this. Lovely post. Funnily enough I'm about to start the book Man of No Ego. I'm pretty sure I got that idea of the book from you

Did you try calling that emergency hotline?

Who wants Truth? I think we need to put everyone's Truth into a hat and pull out one Truth from the thousands there are and just stick with that one. I'm getting confused about all the different Truth's out there. You can't have the Truth. You can only buy into someone else's or make up your own.

@flowboy Well intentioned post but from the list you quoted, all of them bar the last two happen all the time, last two being Sharing Torrents or Copyrighted Files and Actualized.org Billing or Technical Support as nobody has (yet) developed an obsession for them, but give it time.... Interesting thread. The addition of psychedelics and the reduction of protein being suggested. I wish them all well. It would be nice if everyone could just "check themselves into rehab"

@Zigzag Idiot is that text direct from the Nicoll books?

Porn hub?

I don't accept this from you. They are not superior.

I am not enlightened. Sincere seekers ask someone else. Or I am enlightened. Insincere seekers ask me anything.

David Hawkins

A big thanks to @Leonora for this. The title of the video is How To Heal Excitement Addiction In Attachment Disorder and is fascinating for me, hopefully some others with resonate with it. I've never viewed my chaotic living and issues around financial mismanagement, procrastination, being late for things, and generally being involved in dramatic relationships as anything to do with addiction. I also don't associate my above issues with the term "excitement" or being an "adrenaline junkie" but the way she puts it makes so much sense to me. Here are my notes based on the above video, most of it verbatim notes that resonate most with me. Addiction to excitement – Dr Aimie Apigian · Coping patterns that get wired into the nervous system. · Arriving late is a pattern that is consistent with an addiction to excitement. Behaviour that leads to financial insecurity and emotional insecurity is the same as it provides adrenaline and dopamine. Relationships, work, finances. This is because of how the nervous system has been wired. · People have to have these higher levels of chemicals in order to feel normal. · All addictions have three phases of healing; withdrawal period, stabilisation to actively maintain tight boundaries to not slip back into what has been familiar, then maintenance phases (relapse prevention) – you don’t have to think about it constantly in order to avoid slipping back. What steps have you taken to maintain your emotional sobriety? What strategies will you implement if your nervous system goes back into survival mode when triggered? To not act out in ways that are hurtful to you or others, including self-sabotage. · In the maintenance phase you begin to not need the inner tension and anxiety to feel alive. · Tools; exercise, schedule helpful activities, supplements (tyrosine 1000mg first thing in morning on empty stomach, up to 3000mg daily but not after 3pm). Tyrosine can help take the edge of withdrawal. Exercise almost to exhaustion, in short bursts if that's all you can do. Hard exercise. More gentle and moderate exercise is also good, but the effects are not as good as high intensity exercise, especially when you are withdrawing. · Keep active, don’t sit idle for too long as you need some dopamine and adrenaline during the withdrawal period so you don’t end up relapsing to a more extreme and unhelpful dopamine and adrenaline surge. It's better to feed the dopamine and adrenaline need through movement in the early days rather than repress the need totally and then relapse straight into unhelpful behaviours such as overeating, procrastination and general mismanagement of daily affairs.

Anything can seem like a cult. An old people's bingo group could feel like a cult. The key thing is to watch your judgement and fear to avoid using it as an excuse to not engage. Yeh if the group are brainwashing, killing or torturing others then get out while you can but otherwise jump right in brother.