Waken

It is very reliable to listen to feelings for what you are. Because hidden in your feelings are the highest truths. Denying feelings its proper place is not wisdom, but a recipe for suffering and confusion

Some feelings are the results of thought, yes that's true and good to mention. Saying that as long as there is mind identification all feelings are false and steering away from truth is not true.

By listening to the body, I mean listening to feelings. Feelings are the language of the soul, and so they serve as the perfect guide

Hi kireet, I understand you might not be looking for this suggestion, but I wanted to add it anyway. For myself I don't have a sense of 'I want to do X amount of theoretical learning like with books, and X time on practices', but just seeing and doing what I feel like doing now. Sometimes it can be reading a book or more books in a week, with maybe 1 hour of practices, then the next week I feel like doing just some practices and no reading for some time. This approach I think is the best way to go at it, what you feel attracted to is often what is best for you, so making use of this natural inborn intelligence is sensible. It's also of course therefore, much more sustainable and much more fun, as you're doing what you really want to do. In addition to that, you're learning to listen to the body, instead of the mind

Lol, thanks for the laugh

There are also techniques to help you release trauma, such as the feelings around the memory of sucking at public speaking. You can also visualize yourself being good at public speaking. Imagine how relaxed you're talking to groups of people, imagine how it would make you feel to be so calm and carefree, etc.

There are no high consciousness hobbies. It's not about the hobby, it's about how you do it. Do the thing that you love most doing, and it'll be the most consciousness/you raising for you

Thank you for your perspective on it

@Serotoninluv Yes I love the permission slip idea. However I'm still struggling with it at some points. Because he says, ALL techniques and tools are merely permission slips. Could you answer me how a psychedelic is a permission slip?

You would have to completely overlook all the on-point insights and knowledge that he gives, to do the thinking you do. You'll also have to overlook the amazing wit that Daryl himself doesn't seem to possess, and such things. If you look for falsity, you'll find examples, If you look for proofs for authenticity, you'll find examples.

Didn't Alan Watts once say 'man plans and God laughs'. For myself I don't make plans like you do, you don't know what you really need and how to get what you need anyway. And also you don't know what life has in stock for you. Throw all advice and plans in the wind, and see them as just possible inspiration. In the moment decide what you would love to do now, and do that. Or not, if the plan excites you, go with it. But once the juice goes out of the fantasy/plan, and it doesn't work, toss it

Please don't do that, i.e. buying every book on the list. You'll waste much time on things that are not relevant for you and you don't have affinity with. Why you don't look for books that actually resonate with you? There are many great books not on Leo's booklist, and not all books on Leo's booklist are great. Of course, you can look through the list for inspiration, as there are great books there that can change your life. But this whole notion of 'Leo's recommendations are the highest stuff and is what I should follow', is incredibly unhelpful and untrue. You are more capable of finding what is good for you then another, and you don't need Leo's list per se to find things that are life-transforming for you. You could even do without any book, if you really want to not self-deceive. One doesn't need a book to be honest in the end, although it can be used ?

@AlwaysBeNice I have the sense you're being a bit of a sneaky trickster here Wishing you well, and thank you for your messages

@AlwaysBeNice Yes well, it sounds indeed to me like you misunderstood his teachings, and then think it's he who's wrong. As Bashar mentioned, when you come into earth you agree to enter with certain agreements, such as hair that grows without needing your conscious effort, or gravity, etc. He didn't say you create those at the conscious mind level.. He also wouldn't say you create your bed, or friends (at the conscious level), but might say that you chose or agreed at some level (doesn't have to be conscious level) to manifest those. Or that you might have chosen or agreed to have these friends pre-birth. Baby didn't manifest itself into existence by belief, but the being came to earth by choice. The last part of the sentence is what Bashar said, the first part is what you made of it and say he said. Very different. Now I dare you, to take or copy any sentence of him of what he actually said that you think is wrong, and put it up here for scrutiny. Hmm, now my sense is that you'll just keep your thought that he is wrong, and don't consider it's you who might have misunderstood. So I suppose I'll just stop commenting if that keeps being the case By no means do I believe Bashars approach and perspectives are the ones everybody should take or are 'the best'. He himself is very open for people gathering what works for them from others. But saying that what he suggests is delusional and 'new age nonsense', as you put it, seems to come from misunderstandings to me.

Passing is 'love for doing' and has nothing to do with craving for experience. Doing what you love is per definition fulfilling. Bashar always says you should see the distinction between anxiety and passion, and I suppose that's where a lot of people go wrong. You show quite some judgement and grudge in your posts here. I think lots of the stuff you quoted of him, and then saying is utter bullshit, isn't bullshit at all, but just how it works. Perhaps you tried some of the things he said out, but misunderstood his message somewhat and thus didn't see the proper results and then put the blame on him.

Conversations with God I feel is a big shining jewel of a book-series Also I liked Ringing Cedars of Russia a lot, mainly the first books of those series Aaaannd 'Right Use of Will - Healing and Evolving the Emotional Body'

Lately I've been getting more into channeled material, which led me to some material that come from God/Spirit or the Divine Mother. Here some links: - https://www.ascensionlibrary.org/ here Judy Satori channels, mostly from Spirit/God, a light language that can be used to clear blockages, expand your consciousness, etc. You only have to listen to the recordings, so it's easy. She has various paid programs, but also a free section. You can sign up for a 5-day exploration membership and then explore all the main programs. I have several of these main programs myself now, and I feel they are very valuable and effective (haven't worked long with them yet). If I use a recording to clear my throat chakra, the next day I wake up feeling somewhat miserable. This of course is an indication that things are coming up, so it seems quite effective. - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YE-wyb3ew5JT6_RcoDF_JIhpVywJHpb here you can find a free playlist to experiment with from various channelers. - https://reikidoc.blogspot.com/2014/06/divine-healing-codes-and-how-to-use-them.html Divine Healing Codes. You can also check out the 'Spiritual Toolbox' from this website, for more 'gifts from heaven'. - https://thesilverplatinumflame.wordpress.com/divine-mother-messages/ not really tools this one, but some nice messages that are channeled from the Divine Mother.

I love a statement I heard from Bashar a while back: "Life is inclusive. It's not this OR that, but this AND that." Every time you think an "or" statement, it's good to remember that.

From Conversations with God (book 2): The Five Levels of Truth-Telling: First, you tell the truth to yourself about yourself. Then you tell the truth to yourself about another. At the third level, you tell the truth about yourself to another. Then you tell your truth about another to that other. And finally, you tell the truth to everyone about everything.

Got you. I suppose all bodies are though nuts. most of us, keeping putting stuff in it that is absolutely not good for it, putting it under all sort of tensions like stress, etc. Maybe it will bravely keep going on for as long as it can, but then health issues might come up after some time. I once heard 'The Wonders' say -what is a channeled consciousness- that the body was designed to last for 10.444 years. Sounds nuts to most people probably though And lol yes, seems to me also that most health experts don't really have a clue either. In my opinion, a health expert would be an expert in listening to his/hers body, and not so much, or not at all, relying on scientific studies.

@electroBeam Alright, thank you. I was curious as to if you're lifestyle and way of being could be a (partial) cause for low sensitivity to such things. Sidenote: Sadhguru once mentioned that unions could make your system more insensitive It does seem like you're living a bit of a fast-paced and stressed life, which maybe is related to it? Well surely, you could start BEING more healthy, instead of trying to DO more of what you think is healthy here in there. Because it doesn't sound like you're being very sensitive to your own body, but driving it quite relentlessly to do your bidding. And now you notice your body isn't reacting sensitively to the chemicals, hmmm. I don't have much experience with these things myself, but it does seem like there could be a link there lol

What are your experiences with both these methods? When I did Sedona I think I felt it did less for me than Byron Katie. But that doesn't mean it would be the same for you. I'm also interested in mastering my own state, but I like to do it without techniques (from others). To me it feels good advice to do both as long as you feel it gives you good benefit, after a while you might feel you don't need to ask the questions anymore. Perhaps just go with whatever speaks the most to you at any moment

For my own curiosity, do you feel healthy, eat healthy, live healthy (not much stress, etc)?

Stretch, what is it that you want from life? Feeling love, joy, peace, transcendence, career, fame, beauty, profoundness, finding a lover.. what? And did you enjoy some of the practises you did? Also, was your business with the spiritual work a lot of mind stuff? A point on following your life purpose. For myself I find something that Bashar mentioned much more natural when talking about life purpose. See: https://bashar.org/handouts/TheFormula.pdf . This approach doesn't involve working on a purpose, but in short just doing what attracts you most in the moment. Apart from these questions, please consider the possibility that you've actually progressed a lot and now come into a struggle into your life, which could be seen as an important transformation point. I don't know if this is the case for you, but I suppose it's very common for people who transform into living from spirit/soul (or whatever word you like) will come into one or more points in their journey which involve a period of struggle. The way you interpreted your period of struggle makes a lot of difference in how you'll experience it. For example, relabeling depression as a natural process for turning inwards, as you've come to feel that the answers won't be found outside of you (not from Leo or other actualized.org people), will make you experience it with much more appreciation, instead of thinking you've ended up in a mess. Maybe your depression is a point of transformation for you, where you stop looking for answers and suggestions outside of you, and learn to live from inward out, instead from outward in. Throw away all you've ever heard, everyone's tips on how to live and what to do, throw away everything doesn't make you feel good (from actualized.org too), and start feeling what it is you want now

I've been reading the book 'Right use of will: healing and evolving the emotional body' for my second day now. The books is for a large part -according to the book- channeled from God, at least the understandings laid out in the book are. There was a while I thought Conversations with God might be the best (yes it's a very relative word) book series around, but this one is amazing as well. In my opinion, the understandings and dispelling of false beliefs laid out in the book are essential to have if one wants to evolve and life happily and easily. When I tried to search for the book I couldn't download it online, but could find it at the internetarchive. Here I could wait until it was my turn to read the book, I've done this, and now was able to download the book and so have it available if someone is interested. I'll paste some parts of the book here, so you might get inspired to read it: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To begin with, illness can be cleared by learning to listen to what the Body is trying to say to you when you are ill. Understanding this message gives the Body a most needed feeling of acceptance instead of the feeling that is you against your Body trying to defeat illness as though illness is some kind of sabotage by the Body. Illness is not sabotage; it is the Body's statement that it has been having to hold the imbalance of denied Will and needs release. If you can accept the message and regain the necessary balance, illness disappears and health prevails. A way to work with this is to allow your full consciousness to be with the illness by entering the distress rather than blocking it, ignoring it or masking the symptoms with medication. With your full consciousness present, you can ask your Body what the message is and receive an answer about how to restore balance. Then do what Body asks and see the results. If complete healing is not reached, ask again and do again what Body asks until healing is reached. This process will evolve your ability to listen to your Body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the habits and appetites that man has had and enjoyed, for the most part, have been judged against as harmful to Spiritual development. Lists of things to avoid have included alcohol, sugar, red meat, drugs, caffeine, marijuana, tobacco, sex and extremes of any kind. The understanding is needed that the problem is not the substances themselves but the habit patterns and the extremes often associated with these substances. The substances have been thought to be causal, but it is consciousness that is causal and nothing else. For example, eating meat, especially red meat, has long been thought to make men too dense to receive Spiritual illumination and yet it is not causal here. The desire to eat meat has accompanied the consciousness needing it. Nourishment must match the vibration of the consciousness taking it in. All habits drop away when the consciousness is released from the need for them. In not understanding what was causal here, many have tried to break out of habits, giving up meat for example, by using discipline and control. This approach only causes the patttern of habit to change its form. The reason for the habit pattern needs to be found, and then accepted and understood, not condemned and disciplined away. The Will is meant to guide you in this so that whatever is appropriate to any particular situation is what you feel like doing and also do. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spiritual teaching should not be directing you to lift above and drop off the physical and emotional bodies and try to return to essence in the Godhead without them. This has been a massive spiritual misunderstanding on Earth. The reality is that this approach will not work because what is yours, is yours, and you cannot drop it off; the way is to evolve, and to evolve it you must accept it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------