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VeganAwake replied to GreenWoods's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You definitely seem like the right person for the job. "Freedom to do and not do" Thanks for the share! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Loved: When my mother would empathize with me really well if I got hurt or stung by a bee or something like that. Unloved: When my parents were just absent and not involved in my life. Basically not being there giving advise, support and guidance. -
VeganAwake replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@CuriousityIsKey There isn't a real You that has something called an ego. The ego is the entire sense of self....the whole construct or experience of feeling like a separate individual (not just the so-called bad parts). And when that illusory experience ends, there is no You left to be found. There IS a conditioned body with its senses and preferences. And out of that experience seems to arise the ego or sense of self which believes its the body & thinker of thoughts. But it's an illusion of self, as in its completely unreal. So there isn't an ego and then a real You underneath the ego or something like that.... they are the same illusion! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@CuriousityIsKey So you believe there is a omnipotent/omniscient entity called god. And then within the construct of this belief system a question arises, why doesn't this god heal my illness? If that entire belief system was dropped, there would be no one left to resent. Resentment is useless and drains life energy! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Frosty97's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The body can definitely feel a sense of confidence while doing things. But yes the individual that claims it as "MY confidence" is the illusion of self. As the saying goes "practice makes perfect". Repetition is always the key until you don't even have to think about it anymore. I would say confidence is at its peak when you're in the Flow State.... like Michael Jordan use to be playing basketball. He practiced so much and became so good, he made it look easy. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Ora's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The apparent issue with this question is there are already dozens of preconceived notions/ideas/concepts/beliefs being held there about what nibbana is or isn't. In other words 'you' showed up to the party gun fully loaded and glass overflowing. Its just not a something attained for a someone. It's not a state which is entered either. It's the end of state chasing for an individual. It has nothing to do with becoming, gaining or attaining. Rather its a loss of something that never actually happened. It's complete freedom for nobody due to the revelation that this socially conditioned individual identified as 'ME'......is completely unreal!! The 'ME' so desperately wants to be there to reap all the benefits which it imagines enlightenment to be like. But this is an impossibility because nibbana is the death of the illusory 'ME' which wants to attain or have nibbana for itself. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Taus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What is What is? "All there is is what is . . . but what is what is? Well, there is no real answer to that question. However, it seems that what is could be just what is happening . . . reading these words, sitting on a seat, trees growing, sounds, feelings, clouds or thoughts passing by and so on. In simple terms these events just seem to be what is happening. But the perspective here is that the essence of what is happening is an open secret. It is suggested that what is is oneness appearing as twoness, the absolute being relative. It is the treasure that is longed for and feared most . . . the perfect lover and the grim reaper. It is of course the ultimate paradox, being simultaneously nothing and everything. There is no possibility of the essence of what is being described, grasped or known. The seeker attempts to be aware of or conscious of what is and immediately that function separates and objectifies and makes solid that which is wonderfully floating, effervescent and ungraspable. The essence of what is can’t be seen by me and so me never feels fulfilled because its experiences seem to have something missing. In what is is also what isn’t. This is the wonder of wholeness because it appears as both simultaneously. Everything that is something is also already nothing . . . there are not two! Everything is therefore real and unreal, but me experiences everything as only real. Within this illusion me attempts to transform this dualistic and unsatisfactory experience into processes such as “living in the moment” or “being here now” or accepting everything as “consciousness”. However, and again, the wonderful paradox of the play of wholeness is that the story of me is also what is. All of the dreams and hopes, processes and religious aspirations are only wholeness appearing as a separate entity rushing around looking for itself and also hiding from itself by already being everything. And in being everything, even the avoidance or rejection of what is is what is. So what is longed for constantly sings the only song of freedom that can never be lost or found because it is already all there is". - Tony Parsons (The Open Secret) ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah this is it! Everyone thinks it's going to be this big mystical happening for a someone....it's not, it's an unhappening for no one! It can be quite an ordinary realization or it can feel big and profound! Its simply seeing that the characteristics and the behaviors (some conditioned some not) of this apparent body, do not amount to a separate self. The sense of self is like an illusory byproduct of being told you are a separate person from a young age....it's the physical and mental experiences of this assumption/misunderstanding. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It can kind of feel like both simultaneously. Certain patterns may start dissolving while others can seem to intensity because there is no one attempting to control them. It can just feel very out of control for weeks, months..... it's a little different for everyone! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sure! Still feeling like an awakening happened for you even though you was seen to be a conditioned illusion. Decisions being made faster and without much effort which can come off as very egotistical. Feeling stuck between two realities. (awakened & asleep) Feeling separate and alone even though separation was seen to be unreal. Wanting to jump on a flight somewhere and start a new life. Wanting to change your name and identity or wanting to disappear. Wanting to travel and find others that have had similar experience. Feeling like I alone know the truth and others are completely ignorant of this truth. Wanting to do things that felt off limits or wrong prior to awakening. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Honestly a lot of weird things can happen. If you have someone that can keep an eye on you and simultaneously let things unfold for you, that would be a good option. There isn't exactly any one solution I'm sure you have realized. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's completely normal. Energy will be getting thrown all over the place for a while. It will take some time for those patters to wear down. It can feel like your stuck in between two realities for months. As the self wears down, less and less energy will be put into these habitual patterns. But these patterns can and usually change greatly when there is no longer anyone entering them. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well that clear realization would be the end of the conditioned idea of good and bad. But that doesn't mean that the body would become ignorant of the fact that if it doesn't follow societies rules it can be thrown into jail or cause relationship disruptions and such. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to 73809's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no such thing as enlightenment because enlightenment is the realization that the apparent individual which attempts to become enlightened or believes he/she is already enlightened, isn't real at all!! Meaning it's a seemingly real experience but within a misunderstood reality. Example: If your parents convinced you from birth that the outdoor oxygen was deadly and kept you locked in the basement for 19 years there would be all kinds of seemingly real experiences during those 19 years, probably most of them not very pleasant. Then one day the basement window shatters and the outside wind comes roaring into the basement and you are able to breath this oxygen without issue. Your entire paradigm/belief system is shattered & yet there is still the conditioned memories of all those past experiences when you believed the outside oxygen was deadly. An entire reality was experienced but within completely unreal circumstances/beliefs. So it was a seemingly real experience but under completely unreal circumstance. Making that experience REAL & UNREAL simultaneously. This is what enlightenment is like only the seemingly real individual (me/you) with all its conditioned beliefs and concepts, was never real from the start. It was an illusion of self within that organism there. What a mindfuck right? ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Muhammad Jawad's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It could be recognized that the only thing that wanted to become a saint were patterns of conditioned thoughts. That recognition can happen anytime anywhere spontaneously! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Maybe it only feels mindfucking when your constantly attempting to squeeze everything into a conceptual box and put it on the shelf of understanding. Everything don't fit on a shelf, and it can't be pinned down or hung on a nail either. Just sitting back and saying WOW!! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Closed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But what if that got boring after a while and you wanted to start shaking things up a bit for entertainment ? hehe. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But there not actually contradicting the present moment, there happening with the present moment or with everything as I like to say. Nothing is separate or excluded. Awakening is not exclusive, it's inclusive! The inclusive IS, IT, BEING, EVERYTHING, THIS!! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Adam M's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well it's what the sentence attempts to point out which is neither complex nor simplistic. It points to everything simultaneously being nothing, without separation or non-dual. This kind of freedom is actually the goal of all religions but over thousands of years it's become spiritual materialism.... in other words diluted which is also not right or wrong.... it's just what apparently seems to be happening!! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Adam M's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Osho once said that all the three main religions born out of India Buddhism Jainism Hinduism are intended to create an inner zero..... nothingness as Buddha called it apparently! I just watched that Osho video which is why I mentioned it ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Closed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Exactly, like creatures of habit! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to meta_male's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah man I've been there and I feel for you. The mind wants to find an answer that brings clarity and peace. And it always feels like it's on the cusp of figuring everything out. There isn't an answer but it can be recognized that the very one desperately seeking for an answer is an illusion! And then BOOM, there's just everything without separation! ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Closed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I really resonate with this...& agreed!! Here is something I remembered hearing from that Samadhi film a few years back...kinda relevant!! "The ego construct is nothing more than the impulse to repeat. It is simply the path that energy once took and the tendency for the energy to take that path again, whether it is positive or negative for the organism". ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Closed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice, Here I would describe identification like an unexplored assumption or misunderstanding, a real & unreal experience.... J krishnamurti & Osho had a lot of great discussions in this area! It seems difficult to point out because it's not a particular thing, it's a bunch of smaller things that seem to make up this big unreal identity construct. And it's more of an internal recognition as opposed to an external behavioral change. For example: An apparent someone who recognizes their personalized identification as unreal, will still remember how to sell real estate, save money or operate a crane, still prefer white rice over brown or coffee over tea. What I'm saying is there will still seem to be a character with a personal identification or preferences. In other words it wouldn't be able to be pointed out! As far as identification taking the form as nothing, well that just wouldn't be nothingness. But it could be a concept of it. ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to Closed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Never really thought about it that way, very interesting. ? Here it kind of felt like constricted or trapped energy in the body which was upholding this self construct was released back into everything. And so in that sense it would be completely normal to feel like the identity shifted from the body/mind organism back into infinity or something. Just became obvious that this identity game was complete BS. ? ❤
