VeganAwake

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I know what you mean. Yes you have to take care of your mental and physical well being so you can continue helping others. It that sense everything is a win win situation. ❤

Interesting...sounds like spiritual bondage. I remember feeling like I needed to uphold this big spiritual persona as a happy and always calm spiritual dude. The worst was the guilt, like if I forgot to do something or said something out of line with my spiritual beliefs I would feel so guilty and unspiritual afterwards. What a ride! ❤

Yep, there is no escaping the appearance of having responsibilities within conditioned society, and there are plenty of consequences for not upholding them.

Nobody knows... So be nobody!! ❤

I would tell you first and foremost that there's nothing right or wrong with getting irritated and being mean. Recognizing that clearly can diminish guilt or suffering sometimes but not always. There's just not a one method fits all approach to it. You could try to start a new habit of recognizing early the feelings of irritation when they start to arise and do breathing exercises. Make up an excuse that you have a doctor's appointment that you forgot about when you start feeling irritated during a conversation. Pretend you got a phone call. Don't talk to morons. Don't speak or give advice when you feel irritated and mad. Keep a note in your pocket that you pull out when you feel irritated that says: "Calm the fuk down barna, it's not that serious". Whatever method you choose try to make it creative and fun if possible. ❤

The universe looks like a runaway train without a driver to me.

Yeah that's a great way of saying it. It's hilarious when people say or believe they can know Infinity. I want to say: "yo you don't even know what your neighbor had for lunch today, how in bloody christ do you think you can know that which has no parameters. Hahaha literally the definition of egoic delusions of grandeur. ❤

Love ya more.

I love how we can always agree to disagree either way. Now that's unconditional love. ❤

Exactly nobody wakes up dummy.... I've been explaining this to you for like 2 years. ?

I get what your saying. Here it's recognized that responsibilities are just concepts within the dream story where meaning, purpose & value feel real and important. Here, It just doesn't feel like love has anything to do with helping people It feels more instinctual than anything else.

Regardless of popular belief, awakening has nothing to do with recognizing your true nature as the higher self or any of those silly identification games. Rest assured that if it feels like you have a new identity or have recognized your true identity, awakening has not occurred. Those would still be symptoms of the ego otherwise known as spiritual ego taking on just another illusory identity to keep in control. True awakening has no identification games attached. The ego's tactics are clearly seen through and there is nothing left that could attempt to identify as this or that. It's the end of any kind of identification whatsoever. And it's not that a someone or something has become empty, it's the recognition that there never was anyone experiencing reality to begin with, it was an illusion of self identity. Nobody becomes enlightened! It's complete freedom BUT for no one! ❤

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@Barna It seems like most people just want an outlet for someone to listen to them. We keep things bottled up because we are afraid of being judged. They want a judgment free outlet. Most people aren't really interested in lifestyle changes because that feels difficult and threatening to their self-identity. (Which it can be) A paraplegic therapist in california once told me sometimes the best thing to do is just listen and then if it feels like someone is having real difficulties in a certain area simply ask them "Would you like me to try and help you with this". Because that way you're empowering them to make the decision and they don't feel like anything is being pushed on them. Anyways it's all very interesting, thanks for the video share also. ❤

Yeah there's no point to anything which can feel very threatening to an individual that thrives on meaning, purpose & value. Freedom in disguise. ❤

There are apparent differences within the framework of being an external experiencer of all phenomena, but there are no real differences between anything. There is just exactly what seems to be happening....very mysterious!

It doesn't sound like an obstacle, it sounds like this resistance is being recognized which is part of the reason for doing the practices. Simply noticing is a result! ❤

Yes and I've heard ordinary and unexpected also quite often.

For sure!! it's so opposite of what the individual expects or wants it to be that it's laughable. ❤

Awakening is the realization that this spiritual identity(ME) on the brink of enlightenment is completely unreal. It's the end of jumping through spiritual hoops and walking a so-called spiritual path because it's recognized the very entity that believes it can become this enhanced spiritual figure was nothing more than an illusory experience of self. ❤ "Do not think that enlightenment is going to make you special, it’s not. If you feel special in any way, then enlightenment has not occurred. I meet a lot of people who think they are enlightened and awake simply because they have had a very moving spiritual experience. They wear their enlightenment on their sleeve like a badge of honor. They sit among friends and talk about how awake they are while sipping coffee at a cafe. The funny thing about enlightenment is that when it is authentic, there is no one to claim it. Enlightenment is very ordinary; it is nothing special. Rather than making you more special, it is going to make you less special. It plants you right in the center of a wonderful humility and innocence. Everyone else may or may not call you enlightened, but when you are enlightened the whole notion of enlightenment and someone who is enlightened is a big joke. I use the word enlightenment all the time; not to point you toward it but to point you beyond it. Do not get stuck in enlightenment" - Adyashanti

Well you seem very mature and open minded and I am usually very attracted to those qualities. In a sense it CAN become difficult to empathize and relate back to the very needy self-identity that used to be identified with here as the ME character. And awakening isn't even necessarily the end of these feeling's arising altogether. It's a clear recognition that there never was actually a real person in the body experiencing these feelings or emotions....it's just raw feeling! So it's not like a denial/detachment of the feelings of wanting to help humanity and evolve the so-called personality structure, rather its a disentangling from the identification AS an individual that owns or experiences them. There can obviously be all kinds of apparent benefits from improved communication skills within conditioned society. Namely like you said, a better sense of connectedness and maybe even a job with better salary and This communication is NOT saying there are any should or shouldn't do's in ANY way at all!! By all means do do do to your heart's content. Just don't be surprised when it's recognized that this energy never becomes satisfied.... and not only does it never become satisfied but it will actually continue to "up the ante" and increase the feelings of guilt and lack. This sense of doership is often referred to as the spiritual ego, and let me tell you it's a beast because it now hides like a wolf in sheep's clothing. What to do you might ask? There's nothing to do because it's not real. It's just sometimes recognized by no one to be completely unreal. And it's freedom or enlightenment which was actually always the case but just not recognized. ❤