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2 minutes ago, Roman Edouard said:Depends on what you mean by values really
What I meant was, how did you spend your time, what were your motives, etc. Meaninglessness often arises when you start to see the limitations of your value system. What color from spiral dynamics resonated with you the most?
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I know what you mean. I went through a stage like this. What sort of values did you have?
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10 hours ago, XYZ said:Is the problem that I'm thinking too rationally about this?
That whole thought cloud you are stuck in will disappear once you become stronger and more authentic. You don't necessarily need to do anything to help it along though. I too blamed my mom for how I was. Those thoughts cleared up after a couple years of inner work. You're not going to see results overnight. When you see yourself caught in victim thinking just notice them. Don't let them affect your behaviors. Do what matters despite how you feel.
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I remember seeing that one too. I think there's a good deal of truth in it.
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Spiritual growth. One of the only guarantees in life is that it's going to throw you challenges. We are expected to rise up to those challenges.
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15 hours ago, TheAvatarState said:Practice self-love and love towards others. I have found that if you raise your consciousness enough, you'll reach a breaking point where you simply can't continue your old habits any longer
Right on man.
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5 hours ago, LoveandPurpose said:Would you slowly increase the daily working hours or would you go all in from day one?
I'd take it easy on myself. I was really motivated once I started self-actualization work then I realized that change happens really slowly. Now my level of effort is more in alignment with the way that growth unfolds.
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26 minutes ago, Elysian said:I'm currently using this method of healing, the tough love approach, because it's usually the most effective for doing serious amounts of healing. Depending on what the individual can handle, I adjust the intensity accordingly. Unfortunately the more resistant someone is, the tougher I have to be, and that's usually what people need in this era. I would much rather use a more gentle approach, but that requires someone to open up more and become more receptive.
Elysian, I don't see this coming from a place of love. You've set yourself up as "the savior". I think you have some good insights but I believe that your motives are misguided. What makes you think you are in a place to be "healing" others? Sounds like ego.
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2 hours ago, TheAvatarState said:being lonely on this path (I only have one friend I can talk to about this shit)
I experience that as well. I'll soon be heading back to the zen center to connect with the teachers and other members. I may also start volunteering to advance environmental causes. I'm hoping these things will have a positive effect.
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@okulele Interesting video choice. I have actually spoken with Hogen a few times when I lived in Portland.
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18 minutes ago, LoveandPurpose said:Also, how long does it take to have a habit really integrated?
I think it depends on the strength of the habit. It took me 3 months to develop good sleep habits.
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4 minutes ago, Leon_Mao said:Ideally installing one habit at a time is probably the most effective since you are able to put your full focus on it. Unfortunately not everyone has the luxury of time to do that.
My experience is that you can really only deeply focus on one thing at a time. I disagree with the latter point. People are too impatient to deal with one thing at a time.
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I just ordered two of Ken Wilber's books and the original Spiral Dynamics books. Mindfulness in plain english is a good book for learning about meditation. So is The Mind Illuminated.
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There are a few interesting things I that have happened since learning about spiral dynamics:
I see groups and individuals for where they're at in the journey
Society no longer seems chaotic
Fewer judgements of others
More aware of my thoughts when I do judge others
I'm more optimist about society
Less struggle
Less confusion as to what I should be focusing on
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32 minutes ago, Emerald said:But life-coaching is more about helping people remove blocks toward realizing certain potential or goals that they have in life relative to relationships, spirituality, social life, living environment, work, personal growth, etc.
I have a therapist. That's exactly what we focus on. Therapists are not just for those in crisis or with mental health problems.
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4 minutes ago, Emerald said:life coaches are more like facilitators of inner exploration and help you come to your own conclusions and get more clarity
Sounds a lot like what a therapist does.
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Training myself to sleep 8 hours a day.
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Out of curiosity did you choose the do-nothing meditation? I'd have picked some type of breath meditation if I were you. With breath meditation you start to see the benefits in a very short period of time.
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9 minutes ago, Mu_ said:To accept suffering is oddly to suffer less, but I'm sure you've seen this.
I would agree with that. Cheers.
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I would suggest finding a good non-duality teacher.
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11 minutes ago, Mezanti said:@ivory do you also mentally jerkoff all the time like me?
I used to. Probably still do to a certain degree.
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So much of what you wrote resonates with me. I think you and I are both orange+yellow. I think we both need to integrate the healthy aspects of green.
in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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These are signs of spiritual maturity. The idea that we have freedom or control is an illusion. That said, what's in it for you? Well, nothing. Nothing lasts and no matter what you do there is going to be something you don't like about it. You are starting to see the limitations of a self-centric value system. I could be wrong, but these seem like stage yellow insights.
If I were you I'd start exploring stage green values.