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@Becks what do you mean?

@Aakash i can't explain that to you - if you have to ask me this and you have been doing the practices for years make it your life purpose to get some pyschedelics and take them properly.

@cetus56 don't start a war Haha..j/k... God realization is a hell of a thing. Nothing bigger than that!

@Mikael89 yes and no - because believe it or not - you ARE God and you can shift to God consciousness.

@Aakash it's more than Ok with it. It is Love for it. One is both the relative and the Absolute. It is One. You cannot escape yourself. Form and formless is identical. Duality vs non-duality is the final duality to collapse. At that point it is indistinguishable. It is only Love. That's liberation. That is transcending the ego and death.

@Mikael89 yes the Absolute is the Absolute. The duality of suicide being discouraged or encouraged breaks down. But as God would you go around encouraging yourself to off yourself when you created yourself to be? It is your ablility as God to do so - but that's not the question here.

@SOUL @Aakash now you guys are onto liberation it's seeing you are the loop and being Ok with it.

@winterknight you will loop yourself forever like that until you discover you are the loop.

@Pouya that's precisely the point. If you knew it was a dream then it would stop being a dream and you would be awake! Correct.

@Aakash i think i clearly proved to him that i grasp Quantum Mechanics enough to discuss it with him. I didn't delve into the mathematics of it because there was no point once you awaken. It is far more valuable to understand that you ARE the formula than to try and figure it out. I leave that to the mathematicians. He probably looked that up on Wikipedia anyway - it didn't sound like he was anywhere near my level of understanding of the topic and definitely asleep if he thinks that Truth is a belief. But i still have love for him and i hope he can awaken one day.

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@TheAvatarState i racked my brain on this for a long time after my last awakening which was that everything is a projection of my mind as God. That is Oneness. I'm imagining all of it. I experienced this directly and so has Leo. You may have too..others have. So after coming down to my finite mind again i began wondering the same. Are there even other perspectives? But i came to realize that i have limited myself as this particular perspective - and that i limited myself as all other perspectives as well..and i am all consciousness..I'm the chair and the coffee table. So basically it's both. From Gods mind (when i take that perspective or shift to it through mysticism - you are a projection of my mind as is everything. It's a hell of a scary thing as well as beautifull and it can make you think you are going insane. But here is the kicker...I'm a projection of your mind as well. That's how infinite this thing is. God / you is being it all simultaneously.

@Aakash point is you can be dual or non-dual..they're identical. But you know that. @winterknightBut to squeeze the beauty out of duality and form/creation by casting it away is not God's intention. One should embrace it and love it.

@tedens it's One and None ...where is @zeroISinfinity now lol

Yet you are using it

@winterknight And i grasp what you are saying..that duality doesn't exist but that is a paradox because it both does and doesn't.

@winterknight not seeing that duality is non-duality is creating duality

@okulele you won't know until you ask them

@possibilities i wish you well too. i don't have to answer the mathematical formula because i am the formula..as are you.

The Absolute can't be measured by science Thats because science is within the Absolute. Quantum mechanics demonstrates this because the position and velocity of a particle cannot be measured simultaneously. Therefore it cannot be stated definitively that the particle exists! That is logical positivism and it was actually very bothersome to even Einstein himself and he took it to his grave saying "God doesn't play dice" But yes scientists have been trying to measure both the position and velocity of a particle simultaneously without success long after quantum mechanics but even that was dealt a serious blow in the 1980s as i mentioned. So what does this science tell us about Truth or the Absolute? That it is prior to it. It cannot be measured. The only way you can is by becoming it because you ARE it. This cannot really be explained by language because the Absolute is prior to language as well. The Absolute - you can call it God or Truth - is pure isness. It is itself. You are yourself. When one collapses from their finite form to the Absolute (or isness or pure Being) they become the formless and they discover that they are the formless or God. Basically you are like that particle collapsing from the particle into pure potential or that field of possibilities. Likewise you can collapse from the field of possibilities into a particular particle - you - which is your default state. You also ultimately discover that form (particle) and formless (field of possibilities) are One. You! You're the whole thing dude!

@possibilities let me ask you this because this is the crux of the matter of quantum mechanics - what is logical positivism? And use your own words don't look it up on wikipedia.

@possibilities if you want me to answer your questions then maybe consider answering mine? Its a two way street. But how does your question play into quantum physics? We are discussing quantum mechanics here so let's stick to topic - it is basically 4 general areas - quantum entanglement, the wave-particle duality, principles of uncertainty/probability, and quantization of certain physical properties. We can discuss any area if you would like - but basically the crux of the matter is that matter at the smallest level exists as fields of possibilities...when viewed by the perceiver they collapse into a particular form such that the perceiver and what is being perceived are directly entangled. The final nail was put in the coffin of materialism and classical physics in the 1980s with some follow up experiments to the double slit experiment - which proved that light is both a wave and a particle depending on how it is being perceived. There are still some scientists out there trying to disspell this but it's not gonna happen. I can answer your other questions if you are being open minded and truly want to know the answers.

@possibilities I've studied quantum mechanics in depth so i know what I'm talking about and how it reveals the truth about reality in subtle ways - but i know this because I've also awoken by becoming the Absolute -- by becoming a mystic. Have you done either?

@Becks it did. And it does. But scientists today don't want to acknowledge the profound and radical implications of what quantum mechanics reveals about reality! Welcome to the forum