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@Preetom great advice. @VikingThe world is pure Love but you have closed yourself off to Love it seems. Did anything happen recently that might have caused that?

@fluidmonolith yes i understand what you are pointing to 100% and agree totally but just want to add to that - its actually both. Science is within reality - a finitude of infinity..a part within the whole, so yes it can't reach outside and grasp the whole from inside. Science is like Mario trying reach outside the game he is in..he can't because he is the pixels making out the game. But at the same time he is the whole game. So science is a finite part within infinity so it cannot capture the Absolute - but it also IS Infinity itself. Mind bender. But yes ultimately we are saying the same thing. Thanks for chiming in.

@possibilities talk to @elsde according to him he can do it at will leveraging WBTB + MILD

@possibilities it is flawed because it is prior to God realization - or awakening.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC believe it or not yes it is...

@GenuinePerspectiveXC aren't consequences relative to your state of consciousnes?

Gents -- the point is that all if this subjective. It is relative to your state of consciousness. Would you not agree?

@GenuinePerspectiveXC i like you Now weren't we discussing politics?

@fluidmonolith There is a Nobel prize waiting for you if you can disprove quantum mechanics.

I love myself as i love you. (You are me). So no reason to jump a bridge - but if death took me i would embrace because i have already died and it is pure bliss and Love. IQ doesn't mean anything unless you give it meaning.

That's the question of all questions. The answer is this: That person, just like you and me, is consciousness...and therefore is pure Love..or Is Isness...it just IS. And iS is love. So you can't measure reality with a number.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC When you transcend the fear of death you just have pure Love. Simply because you know you are God or Infinity. Money and success becomes meaningless.

None of those lead to inner peace and ego transcendence. So that's something you still have to learn. Is a person dying of cancer not allowed to be happy or feel successful? Is a person of less wealth less equal? Quality of mate choice and symmetry ? - now you are digging your own grave and even @possibilities is not gonna save you.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC Wishing you have a higher "IQ" which is a concept that was made up by culture..yes..IQ is literally something we as humans made up..is indeed Ego wanting more IQ because culture told him intelligence was measured by a number.

@possibilities So glad the greatest minds have joined us. So are you going to measure intelligence objectively like you tried to do with matter?

@GenuinePerspectiveXC can you describe immersing yourself in a low IQ society?

@Serotoninluv And that's an unfortunate byproduct of today's culture.

@kieranperez While you are right about the nature of reality and your metaphysics - and IQ - which is definitely not a measure of one's evolution- relatively speaking i think it's you that needs a hug here..or at least a bigger hug. You seem to be very hostile - attacking people pretty consistently here and tearing them a new asshole where it's really not warranted. He was having a political debate with Leo and you jumped on him. I've watched this be a similar pattern with you - notable example when i tried to provide some advice to you and brought metaphysics into the answer you cut me a new asshole stating you didn't want a spiritual answer. Yet spirituality is a core aspect of an individual's evolution and growth to the highest stages - in essence it is intricately intertwined with everything.. A person's level of consciousness is what is behind everything - from their political views to their metaphysical views, to their personal growth and self actualization and life purpose. It's all consciousness. So while you may be correct in your particular assessments, making personal attacks against an individual can be counter productive. It also could be a sign of inner self frustration. That said - i hope you learn something from these words but you probably won't because wisdom and love is something that often comes with time and life experience. So go ahead and tear me a new one. I'm ready.

We have to have some form of objectivity or people would just do whatever the hell they want. So government creates objectivity so that when there are disagreements we can go to an "objective" third party...and those "objective" laws that are enforced by the court system and the police are agreed on as a consensus and passed into law. So don't confuse the Absolute with governmental objectivity.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC i think he thought when you said idealism you were referring to reality being consciousness and not made of matter. You were using the word in a different context - an ideologue as someone who advocates to a certain political idealogy without really understanding it. Am i correct? Confusion in context it appears. Either way i figured you spoke in jest

God is not only with you - God IS you! You ARE the universe! You ARE reality!

It means getting a consensus so that it appears objective. It's artificial objectivity It is then taken as objective. In the context of the Absolute everything is relative except the Absolute itself - but politics is in the domain of the relative as are we as humans.

Indeed. And for the "others" the Truth cannot be spoken but it must be spoken as language is all we have..so sometimes this leads to the snake eating its own tail