Inliytened1

Oneness.

You have a way with words. You're sounding more like @Nahmeveryday. Not necessarily a bad thing but maybe be careful you don't become him. Not with this post but just the general vibe I'm getting.

You're all over the map. Religion will set you backwards not forwards. If you spend half as much time in meditation and self inquiry as you do on this forum you wouldn't need to turn to religion for the answers.

He has turned awakening into some magical fix for everything. Yes, in a sense it is...it will give you liberation from the ego because you will become God. But awakening from the dream does return you to the dream after, because there is no where else for God to go other than to dream. To dream is to be finite. And so, you will be finite again. The difference is you will have accessed infinity. You will be much more conscious when you come back. So in a sense he's not wrong. But the ego will be back - and everything that comes with it will be back. The difference is now you have the knowledge of what lies beyond the ego - so you know all of it is an illusion. In that sense- he is correct. What I fear is that he has taken awakening as the belief that it will be the end all solution to all of the ego's challenges. It will in the short term - but after that it will take work on your part to embody what you have become conscious of.

Breathe Razard, breathe

On the subject of addictions - I would say that awakening does increase your baseline level of consciousness and also you level of self awareness. So though your physical body may still be prone to addiction- you do have the awareness to pull yourself out of one and see when it is coming on. Again, it is all about awareness. But post awakening you may still be vulnerable to these things because the physical body and the ego is still there. Though as I said immediately after awakening you may linger in a higher mystical state for months. That will eventually drop back down.

This will come in time after you see how your dishonesty will cause you much suffering and pain in your life. Eventually realize that only Truth and honesty will give you peace and liberation - and your level of dishonesty will drop significantly to where you will find it hard to lie or be deceitful at all - because you will know that it is not your true being. Your true being is Truth itself. It will just happen naturally.

I think this is more about transcending the ego's constant desire for pleasure. You could have woken up from fhe dream and been like that for a few months or even years...but at some point the ego's selfish desires will try to sneak back in. This is really where the work begins. And you don't really have to have had awakening for this type of mentality or outlook on life. It really comes down to your outlook on life and how you entertain your ego or rise above selfish desires. This takes a level of maturity that may not necessarily come with awakening.

That's a wise outlook. And a positive one. The longer one lives the longer they are prone to experience some type of deep suffering, most likely due to loss. I woke up from one of the worst nightmares of my life this week....in the dream my dog Jax, who is so dear and beloved to me (a Siberian Husky) was mauled by a massive mastiff. This was after I did nothing while he and my other husky had been bullying smaller dogs and i allowed it. Then, seeing him lay dying - rolling him over as he gargled up blood from his throat being ripped out, I wept that this can't be actually happening. In the dream I could feel the actuality of it. I felt what it would be like to lose him. I have lost loved ones in my life, some from my own doing, that have caused deep suffering taking decades to get past. So yes these things exist. As long as we hold attachments in this world. And really, life is nothing but one giant attachment. Once you stop caring - its really over at that point. @Leo Gura time does heal all wounds and you will get past whatever you are going through. And you will grow from it as a human being. It will increase your consciousness and your compassion. But it isnt easy and sometimes it can take many years to get past.

I bet if he won the lottery his whole outlook would change. God would be a loving God.

It can be transcended through enlightenment because enlightenment is essentially death. But then you return. You return a mystic. But you do return to the original form - and fear and attachment to that form is built into it.

Only Leo has? Lol. Kinda funny. He doesn't know what comes next. The whole point of a dream is to forget its a dream. Forgetting is a necessary evil in the whole scheme of things. The problem is you forget the scheme itself. But it must be like that. If you placed yourself In a video game would you want to remember you were the developer or any other player? Or would you want to focus on being that player ?

It doesn't fully go away because what makes you stay alive is some attachment to yourself. Only Leo has? Lol. Kinda funny. He doesn't know whar comes next. The whole point of a dream is to forget its a dream. Forgetting is a necessary evil in the whole scheme of things. The problem is you forget the scheme itself. But it must be like that. If you placed yourself In a video game would you want to remember you were the developer or any other player? Or would you want to focus on being that player ?

You're not pushing me to my limits. I have died and become pure consciousness. So yes my limits are I don't remember imagining I am any other form. But perhaps that is by design. I would go mad if i could. It is simply safe to say you will imagine something else.

What happens when you awaken from a dream that feels sooo incredibly real? And why is it real? Because it is total. But then when you awaken, everything you thought was real was just a dream.. the real tricky part is how juicy this dream feels. It's so juicy. Because you can feel. But that is just another perception. All perception is an illusion of the ego.

Therein lies the paradox. Is it truly bound or is it because it's boundless that it is bound? The paradox can be resolved. But not though logic.

Whar i mean is notning physical ever dies. Only ideas die. You are an idea. .

That's because you are attached to the self because you ARE the self! You can get over the fear but you never will truly get over it because fear is why you're alive. When you are dead it won't matter anymore. Now spiritually speaking, death is impossible. It is just infinite Mind.

@Someone hereInfinite imagination and infinite curiosity has no bounds, or bias.

What made you think you weren't.

You can forget you are God for all of eternity if you like. It's scary that this is possible at all - but it must be. It must be total. That is the paradox of God.

It is indeed Infinite Consciousness. But note that's just a pointer to something that can't be captured with any descriptions or language. But going with that we can do our best with what we have, we can say It's an Infinite Mind that is omnipresent - meaning everywhere and nowhere. think of Infinite and Finite as one. Infinity being finite is still Infinity. Because what else would it be if everything is one? And by the same token finitude can expand to Infinity or become Infinity. Think of Inifnity like a shapeshifter. It can take on any form it likes. Including the infinite form. Actual infinity has no name - it's just that our limited minds can't grasp actual infinity so we can only use language and thought to understand it. So we divide IT into two parts. Infinite and finite....But IT, was always ONE.

No - I listened to some concepts with curiosity and then I turned within through meditation. Actually I began meditating after I listened to Leo's video on boredom. It was mainly about the ego always needing some type of entertainment- and that it is actually healthy to just sit and do nothing with your mind. Just sit and do nothing. And then yes, I found the enlightenment videos and did self inquiry. But I really was just taking the stuff in out of curiosity and with an open mind. I did not put my faith in anything.

It's exactly like a dream.

True wisdom bro. And I have nothing to say to contradict this. But first - I hope you have been doing well. It has been quite a few years now and I do hope you are growing old with dignity. Now, with all that being said - the only thing I will add to your statement is that is OK to entertain the ego in all of its devilry. If you choose to think its the wise path to do otherwise that's also OK. But the ego was meant to be experienced in all of its fullness.