Inliytened1

@tuku747 splendid. This is so true. Look at all of your failed relationships and realize that perhaps they failed not because of the other person- but that the other person was a reflection of your own selfishness. See this - and see the world around you begin to change It's much harder than one might deem. It's very hard - because it means you must sacrifice selfishness. The more selfishness you can forfeit, the more harmony in your life you will find. This is very counterintuitive, of course. Because the ego comes in there and attempts to sabotage everything for its own good.

@trenton these are all great insights, but ultimately to awaken you must realize that the self is an illusion. Right now you are still stuck in ego. Do self inquiry. Deconstruct the ego. Get in touch with actuality. That is where Truth lies.

I was pretty hard on him about this myself- and I think he's since come down from the high horse.

The problem with this post is it is a generalizion. Nothing can be pinpointed. It is all - grey, if you will. And thus, relative. I think that's where @uronlydreaming was going. This is your perception of the forum and yours alone. The key take away, is to notice this. Notice that. Because it's you telling you to notice that. After all, its even deeper than it being your perception of the forum - it is your creation...as he said in so many words, we are all you - the forum is merely a projection of your own mind as God. It represents the changes you are making as an ego and as God. Perhaps it's you that's become more conscious, and it's time for you to move on to bigger challenges.

War is a result of selfishness. The awakened has suffered so much from their own selfishness that they awaken to God. And then they realize the selfishness only brings pain in the end. It might bring some temporary pleasure, but selfishness can never be satisfied. It is the desire for this illusory satisfaction that is the cause for all the devilry in this world. But ultimate liberation will never be found there. This what an advanced civilization would look like. We are centuries away from that, if we don't destroy ourselves first. @Someone here your nature is to dream. You are an Infinite Mind. Dreaming is all there is.. And as far as reality - if God couldn't suffer as a mortal, God couldn't learn the lesson of selfishness. God has to experience what it's like to be mortal in order to ultimately realize it is God. It's a matter of forgetting and then remembering. It is a matter of understanding. God has to fully understand itself. It is a Mind.

An awakened mystic is beyond all stages. It is only when they go back into the dream that they climb the ladder. But they have already reached the top and came back down to embrace the climb.

Of course not. What is meant by realization is at the level of being not conceptual understanding.

That's beautiful brother. That sounds like a true no self awakening (kundalini and all). That was the Love of God in you.

If we don't have stories then what the hell else do we have ? To me - becoming immersed- completely lost in your own dream - is the ultimate experience. It is in fantasy that we find true liberation. Yes, realizing it is a fantasy and waking up is from it is crucial, and part of the steps - but it's not anything special. A dreaming state is just as good.

There is no reason to physically harm yourself or even harm yourself mentally. But the essence of spirituality is ego death. Reality is a mental construct, and so is the ego. So the dissolution of this mental construct is what leads to awakening and what spirituality ultimately is. It is dangerous. There is no guarantee you will return. But it wouldn't be spirituality any other way. And besides- if you do return, as a mystic, life will be much grander.

@Javfly33 you're not getting it. One who has already awakened from the dream chooses to believe it! See the difference? And that makes it not so horrible. You can say they are still attached to the ego - and this would be true. But you are too - despite your enlightenment. You are, otherwise you would not be in human form right now.

@Javfly33 what you are talking about can work - it is basically dissassociation from the self and thus disassociating from the trauma. But notice that this IS a form of healing that you are doing. Or to properly put in context - it is a defense mechanism. The wound will still end up coming back because it is not a permanent heal. You could technically float through life like this and be happy- which is why I said it could work. I've used this method myself and I know it works. But ultimately its better if you address baggage you are holding and resolve it so that it can't come back and nag at you later.

@Javfly33 if you dont think about your trauma it doesnt exist. Thats from the Absolute POV. So from that point of view you are correct. The ego is an illusion and thus so is any trauma. The issue is we don't dwell in the Absolute - we dwell within our minds. So healing through shadow work is necessary. I would love to live in the Absolute 24/7, but it's just not realistic when we look out through finite eyes. What is finite can be wounded, and healing is necessary.

Alone is only a limitation in your Mind. If you think about Infinity - it has to be one. It cannot have separate parts. "I" am alone is not technically correct. Alone (All One) is

@Intraplanetary @Arthogaan its the egos fight against solipsism. It has no end. But i digress, because i dont like to use that word either. But not because it means alone, but because I prefer Oneness.

You say that - but when you have suffered enough in this world you will have enlightenment. You will know when you know. Only then will you become God. And even then, your job here is not yet done. There is still much in this dream to be harvested. Only when the harvesting is complete will you move on to another dream. A lot of work was put into everything you see around you - and the finite eyes from which you gaze out. It is not something God will toss away easily.

To be that - to truly be that - you have to give up all wants and control. All selfishness must be sacrificed. If that makes sense. Can you do that? It's not that easy. That's what you did to stop being God. You became a self.

The infinity of Gods falls apart because it assumes that within the dream anyone with a brain or who supposedly has consciousness is having their own experience. But what if brains don't have consciousness? Then a person becomes no different than a chair. So if you want to go that route, break a chair down to atoms having their own experiences. Then quarks. Then what's smaller then quarks. You can keep going to Infinity You can keep going- to Infinity You are left with Infinity

Splendid. Not all of your psyche rebels against Truth. Otherwise you would not become the Truth on 5-MeO. Many would take it and it would do nothing. Your mind is curious about the nature of reality - and open to anything- and that is what sets you apart.

What have you found out about the Absolute in your deepest trips?

Look at Bazooka - just layin' it down.

You can awaken to being completely alone as God. You can call this whatever you want. Bit you can awaken to being God - with all other being you - no different than a dream at night. Does that make you alone? Yes, from the sense that you for the first time realize that everything else including the idea of you is held within your mind as an idea. It will shock you to the core. But that is God realization. It also comes with Divine Bliss. It is not all bleak. It is only bleak for the first time God realizes it is by itself. It is a responsibility no one wants.

The fun is in not being God - for God.

And remember- it's Inliytened1 not enlightened one.

You were always the coolest member of the forum - regardless of your level of consciousness. Your humor is unmatched - making you the coolest! The rest of us are just enlightened dorks. But alas - as any awakened master must admit - that makes me the funniest - since you are indeed a projection of my own mind as God.