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Leo said he has experienced levels of awakening to such a depth that he doesn't know if anybody else has experienced levels of awakening of the same caliber. He said nobody in the forum is awake. If this is true (which I am inclined to believe), someone random guy like Mike Tyson is incredibly unlikely to be even as conscious and spiritually developed as myself! I'm probably way more conscious and spiritually developed than Mike, and I ain't enlightened, it'll take another year and a half for me to even start expecting a full blown enlightenment occurrence.

No Christians believe to claim that you are God is of the devil. Of course there's a very fine line between an enlightened one speaking the truth of their realization that they are God, and an inflated ego thinking that it is so brilliant that it is God. The devil and Jesus both claimed to be Good in Christianity...and so it's nearly impossible to talk about it and figure it out that way. The Christians that find truth are the ones who lean not on their own understanding, those who listen directly to the voice of the holy ghost and do what it says. It's extremely rare for a Christian to *only* listen to the voice of the holy spirit though. Extremely rare. I think the easiest way would be to somehow convince them that psychedelics are "of god," or "of the earth and natural and godly" then just get them to snort 5meo haha. Mushrooms maybe. Psychedelics are good

This would be something I'd like to trip on DMT to as well:

This is one I'd like to trip to. It's also good for House parties if you have a large speaker or set of large speakers and a handful of hot babes round for drinks and dirty dancing just make sure to turn it up really loud????☀️???? and how appropriate, I'm on the pursuit of happiness lol ?? This is also something I'd like to trip to: I have trouble not moving my body to the beat of that sexy ass bass line man, ugh. I can just imagine what it would be like to listen to fully enlightened ??

Kriya yoga, self enquiry, do nothing meditation 1 hour a day frequent 5meo retreats (aim for 10 day ones)...5-10 years, that'll do the trick easy. Pain is an interesting one. People in pain are always more inclined to find God or just be wayyyy more aware. It's like it constantly draws your attention to now...it's torture ofcourse, but I kind of like it

I know what your asking. DMT shows you that you are not as much as a "person" as you once thought, and also that the universe is not as much of an "impersonal machine" as you once thought. This is one way in which I do understand non-duality. Dumb vs personal. I think I grasp this...what we know a "person" to be is actually just a complex composition of what we know "impersonal" stuff to be. Enough rocks and dust and molecules in the right formation, we get a "person"

Romans 12:2 "...be transformed by the renewing of your mind." Matthew 11:28-30 “Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly.” Matthew 23:1-9 "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses.[a] 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. 5 “Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels.6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called ‘Rabbi.’[c] 8 “Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.[d] 9 And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven is your Father." Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I (Jesus/You) have come to remove religion; I have not come to destroy it but to fulfill it." You are fulfilling religion. And like the prophecy of Jesus says, you will be put to death and be born a second time (born again) as the prince of light, eternal, in heaven with God, as God, forever.

No, the problem isint that Christians take Jesus literally, the problem is that they don't take him literally ENOUGH! I am pretty sure that what you *actually* are right now in your direct experience *is* what is being referred to in the Bible as "Jesus"....***literally*** the book is pointing to you and your direct experience right now. Absolutely yah. But the problem is, religion acts like a sign post that points to truth, or a step that must be stepped on to reach a higher truth. The problem is people begin to worship the sign post and treat it as the truth, instead of a meer reflection of the truth. Then this is what happens: Mr John Doe becomes a Christian, he believes in the reflection and labels himself "born again". However, he isn't actually transformed, because he hasn't *actually* met God, he's met a reflection of God. He quickly notices that the scriptures (that talk about how a born again person *naturally and automatically* acts) do not match up. The Bible says John should have a new heart with holier desires. But he doesent, so he has to force himself to act like he has been transformed. Which is why church is basically a morality center. And this is quite exhausting. Takes a lot of effort to pretend you are something you are not 100% of the time. And the thing is, if he just realized that he didn't exist, he'd realize that he is God and then he would actually be transformed.

What scares me are the implications of this notion. If I am literally in a dream right now, then I am not texting a message and there is nobody who will read this. my family do not exist, none of my girlfriend's existed, the human race doesent exist, the earth doesn't exist and spirituality doesn't exist. Like...what the fuck. Right now I'm like "how the fuck does that make sense and where is this dream occuring?" Of course leo answered that question, he says it's occuring nowhere, like a night time dream. I think it's gonna take some longer 5meo retreats to start to realize that reality is a dream (if it is)

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@Bazooka Jesus well...you only plug 5meo after you convert it to a hcl solution with vinegar. But apparently the burning of the vinegar is lessened by using coconut milk. Plugging unfortunately doesn't work for me so I don't know much about it.

I have a feeling 5meo helps a shitton of stuff

@Chris365 I really want to try this. @Leo Gura ohhhhh fancy, I bought it haha. Looks quality ??

Holy shit haha good one

@Arzola thanks man haha. It'll be a while yet. But I'm gonna keep hitting the practices harder and harder basically for the rest of my life until it happens. I'm just never gonna stop. Haha. Get there eventually. With my upbringing i understand it better as becoming Jesus, but my intuition tells me there is no difference between Jesus and the buddha.

One factor I find comforting is the exponential rate at which awakening occurs. So going from 0% to 1% may take a year, but going from 1% to 2% might only take 11 months. Then 2%-3% 10 months. Then by the time you get to 12% you'll be growing 1% each month. Exponential acceleration.

@Arzola fair enough man. Hopefully works for myself

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@Beginner Mind I'd say there's a high likelihood that 5meo can produce awakenings. Leo and Martin ball both claim to have had awakenings with the help of 5meo. The likelihood of Leo being deluded is highly improbable considering his incredible accuracy in...well, everything haha. The likelihood of both leo and Martin being deluded is even less. Infact, I am extremely inclined to believe leo's claims of having achieved uniquely profound depths of awakening using 5meo. I'll be doing my own 5 day 5meo retreat sometime soon. Gonna try to really keep steady momentum, go deep with the awareness and hit some big big 5meo breakthroughs. Gonna do kriya yoga, self enquiry and some long chakra concentration sets

Not the most powerful way tho, and you need a lot of power

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Ahaha YES ...................*hits 5meo pipe*......

I...kind of agree with Jed Vassallo a bit, you cant really "gently approach" the mind with the idea of getting a little healed and give up after the first try. Well, you can haha...but you won't get healed doing it that way. The mind is like a vast shape-shifting...thing.....and it's amazing. But it's complex, nuanced, self seeing, very tricky indeed. Nearly SO complex that it's actually simple. Have you ever heard of puzzle boxes? You need to open them. However their simplistic form can sometimes be paradoxically difficult to work with. I think the mind is like this. You have to have strategy and technique. Paradoxically simple AND complex You must adopt a tactical approach when dealing with the "mind". And psychedelics are the most important tool we have. You won't get deep healing giving up so easily like that. Find a new strategy with psychedelics, there are hundreds of combinations and "ways" to approach this field before giving up. There has to be some combinations that will work for your mind. Remember, this is *the most important tool you have*. Which means, if you can't find a combination, you've lost your greatest strength. And don't be scared of a little mind trouble. It'll last for a day or a week. People have risked much more for their own healing. You won't die. So I guess you can either step up to the plate, or you can keep the majority of your shadow work for the rest of your life and enjoy the suffering it brings

@Chris365 Amazon works my guy ??? (see Image). I have 2 theories about my ROA's for 5meo...both are positive. I think the amount of liquid used for nasal injection has to be PERFECT because, if you have too much liquid (vinegar/Coco milk) i think it'll burn more (especially vinegar) and it'll take much longer for the substance to be absorbed completely. But having too LITTLE liquid for nasal injection (I think) can cause the liquid mix to not run up your nose fully (while your heads upside down). So I'm going to retry nasal injection at some point in the future and keep my head upside down for a good 10 minutes (with less vinegar, there'll be less burning and it'll be easier to hold it there for 10 mins) I had a lot of burning before I also have a lot of strange experiences smoking it. Smoked 20mg one time and just, literally nothing happened. My theory here is that I am not heating the pipe for long enough. This is scary because if it's true, that means there's about at least 50-80 mg of hardened, concentrated 5meo on the bottom of my pipe hahahaha. In favor of this theory, I took my 5meo pipe, and just started smoking it with no substance added to it. And sure enough I had a really powerful experience. I'm gonna try get a massive experience or two on a 5 day 5meo retreat sometime over summer...maybe within the next 2 weeks