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@Hellspeed I have come to the understanding that everything is true and false at the same time. There is much more, but all things come back to "i"

Papaji (a direct devotee of Ramana Maharshi) was asked in an interview, "What would be your most important teaching in a sentence or two?" He replied, "No teaching, no teacher, no pupil. We are here only to find out who you are." It actually takes quite alot of enquiry work to realise how perfect and accurate this quote is.

"No teaching, no teacher, no pupil. The only reason you are here is to find out who you are." - Papaji

Matthew 15:11 "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them." But this is the wrong question if your asking it with enlightenment in mind. The only questions you need to concern yourself with are ones that point straight to the source. Who is the one who has the desire to be a vegetarian? If this desire faded away, would my existence fade away also? Therefore is this desire me? Also, nothing is crucial for enlightenment. Infact if you believe that something is critical for it, you will be thrown severely off course. Who is the one who is interested in finding out what is crucial for enlightenment? "No teaching, no teacher, no pupil. You are here only to find out who you are."

@isabel dont get too attached to termonologies like these mate...do NOT fall into the trap of "searching" for something or "letting go" of something. You cannot search for something if you do not know what it is your searching for, therefore "searching" brings with it the subconscious idea of what your searching for. And ideas are what we are avoiding here. Nothing outside of the direct experience is true reality. (Note: words/concepts are not direct experience) therefore, regarding your question "what is acceptance" do not accept anything...ask: who is one who is trying to accept? It was observed after all, wasn't it? Or (my personal favourite)...ask: If this 'trying to accept' were to fade away, would my existence fade away? (Very powerful). It's a tricky one because your not meant to look for anything... The following is the single most important teaching within all of spirituality: "No teaching, no teacher, no pupil. You are here to find out who you are."

I'd like a handful of people to just comment how long it takes to reach the point of ego death. From either yourself or someone else you know, what do you guys think would be the ballpark timeframe for reaching this state (for someone who has dedicated themselves to enlightenment with self enquiry every day)? On average. Ur answer doesent need to be big

@non_nothing I might have to give that book a read, who's it by?

I @Leo Gura ive been spending a lot of time ensuring my technique is perfect all of the time so to ensure I'm squeezing all the juice out of each meditation. I'm aware of a lot of traps and pit falls in my own mind. For me, this is all that matters now. I really want to get DMT and take it after a 10 day solo retreat (in silence). I also want to visit an enlightened teacher in a different country who i admire greatly. I don't want to overcomplicate myself either...spread my focus too much and dilute its strength. I can assure you, my practise is serious, I work towards deeper levels of genuineness within myself and the methods I'm using are the ones you recommend. I am serious about it like

I know what your saying, I agree. I've noticed a deep disconnection with a lot of areas in my life. I find myself not needing my friends as much, not needing religion at all anymore, not needing family (I accidentally didn't talk to my mum for 2 months haha). I've definitely noticed that large parts of me have just instantly became a lot weaker. I hope this is the death taking place in different areas of my life.

@Sahil Pandit for the first 3 months I literally didn't know what I was doing when I went in to meditate and enquire. I kept myself in the dark because the feeling of assurance I had in my heart was so real. I was operating in a out 98% confusion. It's only now I feel guided to even look at my knowledge. The Almighty Self has shown me that knowledge is actually my friend, it's what awareness rides on. Without Aaron Patterson, the I Am would not be here (not experientially). I haven't experienced much confusion in the last week or so, which is concerning. By no means am I suffering unbearably yet. However, it took a lot of suffering to get me out of religion. I had to topple that tower first. Even when my time to suffer comes, something in me will know to keep going no matter what. Know what I'm saying bro

@purerogue My mind is making it seem like it's impossible to achieve...but I know if I leave my life behind it will happen. I honestly don't want it to take long, but I'd definitely be willing to spend my entire life at it. Something within myself allows me to grasp the magnitude of enlightenment. I know that it is literally the only thing that matters. Everything else feels like shit. I'm not depressed, it feels like I'm just 'clear' (regarding the big picture of my life). I don't really wana waste it. It would be such a fuckin waste to spend 80 years just working a little job, pretending like I enjoy family dinners, and doing some cool drugs and banging some nice girls. Such a waste. I want to be able to motherfucking SEE!!!!!!!! I want to live. I look forward to the day I'm shitting myself about to die, I want to feel every bit of it. Cuz it's not me. Not who I truly am.

@Serotoninluv I had a feeling this was Gona be brought up...i know there will come a point where I have to go completely all in, or leave it. Somehow I know that enlightenment is the only thing that matters. I have a deep witness within me, I know i'll either get enlightened or die trying But yes, I think I definitely need DMT. I'm also looking into that "1000" book about the highest levels of consciousness. But by this point I'm hooked...I've tasted it lol. It's gooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddd I like it a LOT. I'm Gona try get dmt. Thanks for the reply mate

@winterknight I agree. It seems as though, the more simple the better. This one technique exposes the observer. And you can't get stuck! Who is the one who is observing you being stuck?

@non_nothing word

Fuck guys, I'm trippin balls on the #reg like. Been meditating reallllll strict and long for the past 4 months now I think. I feel like my whole perception of reality is just getting absolutely double dicked like. Everything feels weird and really really fucking uncomfortable and fucking blissful. My body feels so cool HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anyone else feel like their reality is getting quadruple dicked in the face by meditation?

@Nahm I was just stirring a little controversy ? lol. Just a wee joke, I'm Irish.

Anything other than meditation and self/universe enquiry is distraction...if your looking for absolute truth. @OneLittleHumanMind also see what you said here...do not believe that you are or aren't what you are perceiving. Do not lean into intellect, is the intellect being observed? Who by? This is the only thing that matters. Do not become involved with knowledge. Especially true spiritual knowledge.

Welcome the inability to progress. It's not only good, it's necessary as an obstacle for you to overcome and grow stronger. When your sitting there "stuck" is it being observed? Who is the one who observes you being stuck? No matter what happens to block you from spiritual work, ask "is this being observed" check direct experience (the answer will be 'yes') then ask "well who is the observer." "A knife cannot cut itself, a fire cannot burn itself, eyes cannot see themselves. Do you think the one who observes can observe himself?" See, you can't actually be stuck. You can only believe that you are stuck by misunderstanding meditation. Remember, we aren't doing anything with knowledge here. We are only working with the observer. Anything other than god is imagined bullshit.

@Rilles he is saying that suicide and shit like that are things that all things that a first world mind will consider because of how spoiled it is. Notice how you don't typically hear of people in Africa or a lower economically developed country, committing suicide. They hold onto the idea that life will be better in the future. But that's always what the mind does, the person is always waiting for the day where they life is fulfilling. But it never does. Because of the fallen state of the mind, happiness will always be "somewhere else." And it's just that in the developed world, where money, sex and relaxation are plentiful, there is little else for the mind to believe in. So it's a bit of a brat. But meditation is suicide. Everything that is painful and depressive in you is imagination I'm pretty sure. But yeah, outside of "spirituality" and wisdom...my philosophy regarding suicide is that if I was really going to put a bullet through this thing I call "my head", then i would probably do some mad fun shit first. Like, if I'm prepared to do that, then I'll be prepared to say fuck it and go on 5 holidays, do loads of drugs and crash my car. Like why would you just kill yourself. You'd be better to have a bit of fun. Just change your life dramatically. But Leo's advice is the best. Anything that isint the one who observes is, by definition, not you...including wanting to die. But yo, you wouldn't get a chance to be enlightened if u did. So for my it's just not logical, even if I were to feel like doing it. At least have some fun and go nuts first like

@Inliytened1 that's so cool. I've started to really get a grip (or lose a grip) of meditation recently, but I'm super pumped to get enlightened. I have a few questions. 1: are retreats super important or just useful? 2: is it really pure clarity, knowledge and bliss 100% of the time? 3: how old are you and how long did it take to get fully enlightened? 4: is it hard to get offended, and do you find yourself living "holier"? 5: do you have a relatively "normal" western life, filled with social interactions and a job etc? 6: Is it true that you possess all knowledge and wisdom when your enlightened?

For maybe 4 months now I've been very successful in raising my consciousnes and I am now experiencing very real physical sensations. I experience what I can only describe as a firy-cool sensation in my throat and upper chest, and the longer and more specific I meditate the more tangibly intense it becomes. And yesterday a voice was talking to me telling me what to do. It told me to put my head back and relax and to prepare myself and I started tripping balls like my body was vibrating like crazy and forgot where I was. And just today I felt like such an incredibly heavy "weight" of...something?!...on my whole being. It felt very very uncomfortable, I had experienced it as a child and hated it. Felt like my mouth became a gaping cave and my tongue became a snake. And it feels like that. Does anyone else experience this kind of raw physical manifestation shit?

@Hellspeed i thought this to but I wasn't sure because I was confused why it was just in my upper chest. I've noticed that it got more intense with meditation every single day in a row but it's only been there really noticeably for about 1 or 2 weeks and I haven't noticed it spreading just yet. I suppose these things are meant to take time tho.

@Rinne well before I got fully introduced to spirituality I was communicating with...something...that I called God. So I got really good at communicating with my subconscious. I have a philosophy, that is this: "Its important to pay more attention to the *tool* carrying out the job, rather than the job itself." Ie, spend most of the time making sure my technique is absolutely perfect 100% of the time. Accuracy is better than quantity. I practise 40 minutes self enquiry, followed immediately by 20 minutes breath meditation. And I have meditation beads that I use to meditate anytime I'm driving. The subconscious does a good job of driving anyway. I do chanting meditation then with the beads. I also smoke marijuana right after a good meditation (which is pretty much every time now) which dramatically reduces resistance from the mind and enhances the effects of the meditation. But I am never high on anything when im experiencing the "fire-cool" sensation all inside my chest and throat...or the heavy weight. It's super super palpable like, tangible. I've found myself being extremely emotional and if I spend a long day without meditating I start to feel the suffering of the ego coming back (intensified by the meditation). And it's more like an addictive habit now. The most important thing is to listen to thr voice of god/subconscious knowing/intuition. Mooji baba has a good technique where you just observe something in your life and ask "what is the message behind this thing". For example, if the thing was anger...the message behind it might be "they didn't treat me right." And what I do is I communicate with god this way, and he shows me super accurate keys for using self enquiry and breath meditation. Being able to read reality like the matrix is a superpower for climbing over obslicles efficiently. The good thing about being able to communicate with the subconscious like this is I can just be 100% confused the whole time. It's pure suffering like but it goes away eventually. But I barely hold on by my fingertips, I have no idea what actually is happening when I'm meditating. No clue haha. Being able stay confused like that is useful af.

Well the small "s" self (human) is just an idea. There is no reality behind you being your emotions or personality or memories or habits etc. So all that truly exists is the true self, the big "S" self which is the observer (you) who is also god. Enlightenment isint actually desolving of the self, the the desolving of the wrong *idea* about what you are (emotions personality etc). The reason an enlightened person can still walk and move is because the only thing that has changed is that they realise, on the deepest levels, that they are not human or alive or a person. They subconsciously realise that they are not the mind that thinks or the body that moves. Once you submit consciously realise your not the person that things are happening to, but infact are the observer. You can still experience pain and happiness, but an enlightened person is like a blank screen that has a movie projected unto it. The movie puts fire onto the screen and yet the screen is not burned...the projector puts water on the screen, and yet the screen is not wet. This is what is feels like. (I only know this cuz I've got a small taste of it, I'm not enlightened)

Self enquiry is bomb af. The way I see it...trying to use breath meditation to get enlightened is like trying to slowly dissolve the whole fabric by using a stable, consistent, weaker acid.... Where self enquiry is like stabbing small holes the fabric with a fucking pencil. I prefer self enquiry's more "active" approach.