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@Someone here Its all one however that doesnt mean that fear and love based behaviour is ultimately the same and that love based behaviour such as compassion is much harder then fear based behaviour such as judgement.

One can argue that since Love is all there is fear isnt an issue since it is an expression of love however at our practical mundane life you surely would rather see compassion then agression and judgement yet the opposite is the case in most humans. So even though compassion judgement and agression are all based in Love compassion is surely a higher form of love and much more beneficial for humanity. And yet fear based judgement and agression are more prevalent...

@Someone here Lol sure as i said in absolute level yes in relative level it surely isnt

This might be true in absolute level but in relative level where we live still you can not honestly say that oneness in realized in most individuals and they choose love over fear. Thats simply not the case. And yes i see that since God is everything and everyone everyone will eventually at some point realize that however i still dont seem to understand why is needed that world is inclined towards fear in universe designed as expression of love. Why such hardships to most creatures and beings? Only thing that comes to my mind is that realization of love is so much more pleasurable after so much fear but I m not sure that would comfort people going through suffering

@Tim R Yeah fear is Love in absolute domain but that still doesnt explain why should there be such struggle in the world based on fear if nature of the universe is love. Cause even though fear is love it is a very limited and shallow form of love. At least conpared to unconditional love. Why not engineer a universe where most individuals are experiencing oneness or true love and just few ones are living in fear.. That would be more loving based scenario. Or i miss something here...

@aurum True but why such a hard game. Why couldnt it be engineered in such a way where most individuals would realize oneness and not just few rare ones

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura Love could as easily engineer a universe where 4 billion years of fear would not be required to experience Love wouldnt it. Why such enormous effort and struggle in the world just for few rare individuals to realize oneness if love is the nature of the universe

@Tim R So I guess having an identity is a sacrifice of love in a way

@Mafortu Cant we have survival with love instead of fear.. That we ensure our survival by cooperating and caring for ourselves instead of dividing and fighting for our egos?

@The Don You cannot force being present.The only forcing is recongnition of presence already

Hello everyone. So I have been on this forum for 2 years I got many ideas from Leos videos and people advices here but my life still sucks a lot. I have been meditating and doing inquiry for few years had some glimpses of higher consciousness but overall it didnt stick too much either because I am not doing it intensly enough or because my other life areas are not going well.. I still have no basic direction or purpose in life..I didnt finish college after losing 7 years there I had long time battling depression and apathy which probably stopped me from finishing college but anyway I dont mind it so much since i wasnt really interested in what i was studying for I was just going cause I thought it will be a good well payed job. I am in 3 year relationship with a girl whom I met online and we clicked however we are from different countries which makes it quite hard to keep up. Me and her are quite similar in character however after watching lots of Leo s content i started having desire for my life to become better and I dont see her sharing the same perspective on life as me.She is my first serious relationship and beside her I dont have much experience with girls. I am scared to end our relationship cause i think my apathy will get back even worse then before and I am already 30 and really dont have a lot of time to fuck around anymore with my life however I just feel so paralyzed with not knowing in which direction to turn and what to do... I think i filled my head with huge ammount of Leos ideas but few of them actually got immplemted seriously. I think my main issue is a huge victim mind set and lack of self esteem and self love which caused my apathy and also a lot of social awkwardness or fear I hope someone might offer and advice where to turn or what might be the most effective way to resolve this issues. Sorry if post sounds too incoherent but english is not my native language.

I am wondering what are your thoughts about this perspective on emotions. He says that emotions are always correct and that are our highest source of wisdom cause they tell us if we perceive reality true or not. If we perceive truth we are made to feel joyful peacefull trustful but if we dont see corectly we feel negative in fear in guilt depression as a signal to correct our thinking. So in this perspective when we feel fear its not that a situation is threatening but that we see ourselves as an ego who can be harmed.. Cause emotions are not talking how a situation is but how we interpret it from ego s point of view. I find it really helpful but i struggle to uproot a belief that situations make us feel in a certain way.. Its really hardwired into my mind

So fear is wrong belief that we can be harmed Depression is wrong belief that we are powerless Guilt is a wrong belief that some thing could be done other way Jelousy is a wrong belief that someone has something that we dont have or cant have

I realized now after passing through this thread again and contemplating that really negative beliefs are without substance or another way to say it negative beliefs are only negative cause I attach a meaning or unhealthy disempowering story around certain experience. No matter how shitty some experience looks it is negative only cause you addded that narrative to it..Hope it will sink deeper with time:)

Is there really an efficient way to drop a negative belief or to replace it with positive one without experiencing positive stuff which will slowly change the negative momentum?

Congratulations man. Just keep doing what u do and thank you for your work:)

When did the idea of getting elightened became a possibility in your mind..i dont mean when u heard it but when you started thinking its possible and not some mumbo jumbo? What was your first relationship like?

Very true indeed. Yet most people find it hard to appreciate good life conditions if they werent once in much worse situation. Gratefulness must be learned through loss for many.

Can we say then according to these analogies between hallucinations on psychedelics and "hallucination" of ordinary perception that people who have schizophrenia and have visual and auditory hallucinations actually just have more fluid way of consciouness unlike regular people? Fluid in a sense that less of God infinite nature is filtered for survival reasons

Lol..not exactly proper motivation for spiritual pursuit:D

How you managed to have such discipline and enough time to do consciousness work 14h daily?

Are you sure he didnt say pain instead of suffering? Cause its two different things

I dont get when he says quote there is no room in the infinite for the finite...doesnt infinity includes finite things?

In my opinion emotions like fear disgust anger are created based on mind interpretation of situation and last shorter in time while consciousness states are longer lasting and are more an overarching way of dealing with and interpreting life situations

Stage red is more primitive impulsive and agressive when he wants something while stage orange acts in more calculating and rational way exploring other options when he cant get something immediately. Orange is more sophisticated and with an elevated view on situations then red and usually has better emotional control in way to not act impulsive and violent