Javfly33

Yes, the question is more about time and space. You say it's easily resolvable as a question of indentity? Well, I could always believe that my girlfriends POV is just infinity living another dream so sure, I am her. But as you said my question is more about time/space. When I am talking to my girlfriend, how in the hell I could be "at the other side" experiencing his POV too, if at that time I am at mine. The trick could be realizing that there's no time. But at my current state of consciousness can't grasp that. I hope I will be able in the future.

@Bulgarianspirit Thanks for the reply. That give me hope! ??

That's fine. I trascended the belief in such a thing as a material reality a long time ago. It hasn't helped to explain the problem of the simultaneous POV's though. My question is not speculation, is simple; Do I ever live my girlfriends POV / experience his body, Yes or No. What I think is you guys don't really know this answer, and go on with backstories such as there's no universe, that's only a thought blabla.

The thing is, the human body is empty. I'm not in the body. I am everywhere. It just is difficult to imagine that somewhere else in another dimension there's another infinity imagining another universe and that universe is interconnected with mine. And also why I am not Experiencing that universe but I am this one. But Yes, I hope you are right and I discover it by myself.

See. That's the problem. I can think that there are infinite number of dimensions but... The fact is I have never experienced another POV. Just white pure light and Imagination on 5-meo-dmt and then the rest of the time my normal POV. Never ever another body has been experienced. So I just find that believing that there are in fact other POV its going to be belief. And if it's a belief, what differenciates from religion? I thought Spirituality and Truth was direct Experience, no beliefs, suppositions, guessings...

@Someone here I have taken several Psychedelics. Although I still I am Psychedelic newbie. I even did 5-meo-dmt last weekend. Took a supposedly "breakthrough dose", realized I was inside Infinity. Realized that the possibility of infinite dimensions (where infinite lives could be lived by Consciousness) could be possible. Realized the floor I was sitting in was being imagined by ME (NOT my mind, but Infinity, which is actually mi mind lol. But is the "great mind" , the "universal mind"). YET, here I am. A universe is being imagined around me. But the physical body that is being placed around this universe, it's a certain one. It's definitely not my mother's body. I haven't lived my mother's body. As far as I know, my mom's live could be just a fantasy. I just really want to know if: 1 - the bodies I see on the street, does a Consciousness emanates and it's aware of them in a POV dynamic the same as mine? 2 - Do I ever live, in first person, just as I am living this life, those other "persons" lives? 3- If the second is correct, then I can only live one POV AT A TIME. It's difficult to say if when I am talking to my girlfriend there actually somebody there with a POV being experienced or not. I don't know man, I just really want to fucking know. There can't be any assumptions, ideas, logical inferences. I want to verify in my experience experiencing my girlfriends POV. If not , it's going to be belief. Only experiencing each person POV and remember it will do.

I didn't mean it in a bad way. I just want to verify it in my own direct Experience

I don't mean how in the material sense. Of course infinity doesn't need a how because it isn't limited. Only something limited would need a how . I mean how we are creating the coronavirus, suffering, self-deception, delusion, ... etc If we would be more aware we would create a more nice reality for all of us

Woah. That some interesting insight. But I still don't buy it.

The worst thing is, nobody knows how in the hell we created Reality. Yes 'we' are God but we don't have no idea how we are creating Reality and why we do what we do.

@Gesundheit Interesting, thanks for sharing.

Because that's a fantasy ? But sure you can life in delusion. Almost everybody does it. In a single second you could comtemplate how is actually impossible that you are a certain human being and not another one. How come you are @Gesundheit human being and not @Javfly33 human being? Were you asked before you were born to be who you are?

+1. Interested in this too.

I don't get it. You believe a guy on the internet just because he tells you? Ok. Fine. Here it is: I am in a constant state of God-conscioussness and Samadhi super-state ?

I do that coffee at 6pm to work on my side-project business

Truth is beyond language.

Who are you talking to then?

So, what are the conclusions then? Do other people (POVs) being experienced now?

Just read the Rumi famous quote: "I've been knocking from the inside". Since you are the truth, only can you know the truth. Nobody will deliver it to you. You will be your own authority.

Nice but I've tried it and no way I could sleep by 11pm if I do methylphenidate at 16-17pm

Currently no, I don't do other practices, mainly because I found a new job and I don't find so much time and energy as I had before. But before the new job I used to do 3 hours a day of Yoga and meditation. Most people who preach " sober practices are more than enough" don't realize that most people in the west just don't have time to do them. Meditation, self inquiry, yoga, imo they are potent practices when done long and intensely enough. Meditation or Yoga for Enlightement purposes is not supposed to be 1 hour a day. Hell not even for healing which ime happens also because of a high states of conscioussness. Yes of course they can heal, is just takes too damn time doing the amount you can do while maintaining a full time job I would laugh if I have to get all the healing and insights that I had until, doing 1 hour meditation and 20 self inquiry a day. Like...lol. No way.

I do have experienced a change. Always. They still are the number #1 tool for growth and change of ego. But hey maybe I just resonate too well with them and some people aren't able to get so much off them. Let people do what they work for them anyways. I don't judge people who don't take psychs and just do meditation. I expect the same treat.

Of course, God is just a word. It just describes the misterious, eternal, loving Self that created/creates Reality. So God pretty much is a good word. But you could call if Sasquatch if you'd like.

So far it seems that Enlightement is When God remembers itself and stop identifying obsessively with one of his creations (a human body). In a profound level of those questions then have not much sense but I would reply: 1- Yes. But the meaning of "existence" gets re-contextualized as imagination 2- No. God remembers itself. However it seems imaginary brain chemistry plays a role in how awake God gets in his own dream 3- Reality/You 4- No. The mind doesn't have Consciousness

Haha nice I will do it ?