Javfly33

Well I can't talk for Leo because I am not sure what his motivations are for saying this kind of stuff, I hope its not just thoughts for him and there's some actual direct experience, but for other people they shouldn't take any teaching as Truth because any teaching are just words concepts no matter how beautiful the teaching is. I see the teaching as a motivation for the seeker, if it makes him think and become curious, passionate, etc...about what might discover, then Leo is not doing something wrong. He's just inspiring people. But most people just take teaching as truth, trying to intellectually grasp it. So people just want answers to fit their limited perspective, not Truth, we already seen this a lot of times. Truth interested people, very little unfortunately.

amen

I think the words its what makes it impossible to really grasp. Since words are dualistic and dualism its false and a mind-virus, it doesn't make sense logically.

Fair enough. But that's precisely what people do, man. With the exception of some special occasions where you would particularly enjoy the taste of a good expresso, the majority of people do coffee because the stimulation and focus that it provides they are unable of producing that for themselves within, without the chemical. Precisely people that eat bad, have bad habits and have overall a low baseline motivation at work, use coffee to be able to be productive and feel energetic. Notice how is so common to drink coffee after meal, because most people way of eating produces such lethargy in their system they have to take a coffee to "wake up". For sure for the majority of people who are in low stages of development doing coffee might not be a great deal. But since this is forum its usually populated with individuals looking for more conscious and advanced ways of living, I was speaking and giving my advice from that perspective. You probably haven't done yoga Kriyas because if not you would know this. For serious spiritual practices one of the most basic factors for it to work is that your emotional and mental aspects are as clear as they can be. It's not only about not being drowsy or sleepy, that's just the basics. But the sensitivity of your nervous system must be as clear as it can because these are very subtle and profound practices so the system must be in a very receptive state. Drinking a stimulant numbs and ruins this areas of your organism during the practice. Of course its better than drinking a shot of whisky, but nonetheless its still limiting the practice significantly. Bruh...Meditation is not 'the longer you can sit the better you are doing it'. You can be mediating for a whole year and accomplish almost anything if your state in mediocre. Being awake during meditation is the basics, but not how you measure if you are actually getting into meditative states.

That's very demagogical, and I´ve seen you post that argument several times already in coffee-addiction-usage related posts. Those "benefits" come probably from some properties the coffee plant has, and I'm sure a lot of other plants, vegetables or fruits have those things too and you can have reduced occurrence of all those illnesses without having to take coffee. But you don't say that... To the OP, as long as you don't see that it doesn't impair what you want to do in your daily life, then maybe it's not a big issue for you right now. I am definitely think that coffee helps in being more productive at work. At least in mechanical type of tasks. For meditation, yoga and spiritual sadhanas its quite bad though, it removes sensitivity of the prana system and it make your practice much less intense. I would avoid it if you plan to go serious in this practices. If not, I think you can enjoy for sure one of cup of coffee a day.

Psychedelics don't magically change people. It's like therapy or any type of coaching (although way more intense and effective): If the person doesn't want to change, nothing happens. If it takes it in a point on its life where it wants to change, the psychedelic will speed things up a lot. @Leo Gura I think that's a gross simplification. There are many individuals drug addicts that are intellectuals or in higher work status positions than even non-drug addicts. But I get what you mean, I´ve been on a couple of 5-MeO retreats and there were definitely people like the OP talks about, ex-drug addicts that carried quite an obscure aura within them. Indeed they usually have quite a lot of Red-stage habits such as extreme selfishness and manipulation techniques. @BlessedLion This people usually are not in a surrendered-open state to receive the most psychedelic benefits. They're expecting a magic pill to solve their problems.

That's really a top G way of losing your virginity for sure lol. Congrats sounds you had a great time

Yeap. Don´t understimate cigarettes. My father used to have a smoking heroin habit for +25 years on and off, he said the real poison was the cigarettes. He also told me that at one heroin detox house he was, he was having a panic attack not because wanting to go out to go score some heroin but to smoke a fucking cigarette! So know you are dealing with a tough fucker...not to scare just to let you know the fight will be sneaky. I myself quit cigarettes some years ago and I remember the cravings and seduction of going back would go in flashes. I would have 1 week super good without not even remembering it and then I would crave it. It went like this for some time. I would say (in my experience) at the 2 Month the cravings completely went away and I didn't wanted to smoke ever again... I did smoke from time to time afterwards at parties, and very special occasions though, I must be a weird case...eventually it would give such crazy anxiety and bad move even smoking 1 cig that I just completely got disgusted by it and don't see the point at all in taking something that makes me anxious and tastes bad.... Bad yeah it's nice you don't want to smoke ever again...just remember quitting is sometimes not linear. Also don't be scared to be close to smokers, you will eventually have to resist that craving sooner or later (you being near a smoker a wanting a cig too) so becoming comfortable with it until you don't want it.

Breakfast: Peruvian soft coffee expresso + 1g of Neem powder. I'll add 3-4 turmeric pills through the day. Lunch: Grains probably, quinoa, or sarracenan wheat, idk... Dinner: Fruits, maybe some raw leafy vegetables sometimes, dressed with virgin olive oil Dont you feel weak as fuck with that diet?

as long as you dont eat them from a can...

why would you want to go nuts?

explain more

I´ve done plenty of psychedelics, chances are maybe more than you have done. They can't save ya. They are very powerful tools but you shouldn't have your primordial focus on them. Yeap. Couldn't said it better. I mean can't blame him he always said he is a very intellectual / conceptual type of guy. I wouldn't say he's in a dangerous road though. Psychedelics tend to be pretty use-regulatory. Meaning if you start doing them too much they stop working altogether. Although 5-MeO-DMT and similar triptamines with fast routes of administration is another story..maybe those ones can be more easily abused. For the ones that can stomach the consciousness levels on a regular matter of course....

That means that the fact that you "finally Awoken" doesn't mean much. If you can not retain the state of consciousness / energy vibration that puts you in Truth/Enlightment, then at any second you could be back at the ego state of consciousness. Doesn't matter how "clear" you Awoken, the ego can re-construct itself at any moment. Again, again, and again. That's why people can do 30 psychedelic trips and have awakenings in each one of them yet in daily sober life they are lost in individuality, delusion and fear. Like any other normie. Of course this is not a pessimistic message, and also not against psychedelics (I think they definitely help in moving towards the right direction) but just a pointer into what is important: Designing a lifestyle (from diet to spiritual-energetic practices ) that can put you in that state of consciousness and keep you there. So basically You awakening or your realizations doesn't mean much. What is important is: When you wake up in the morning, are you in Truth or are you lost in the internal dialogue?

I don't see how that invalidates my message. I know there is a tremendous difference between the ego normal state of consciousness and a very intense direct connection with the present moment such that the ego mind is eliminated. That feels pretty fucking good, there might be x100 more intense profound states ? Sure. I don't doubt you. But why you want to put the cart before the horse? Instead of daydreaming with super intense radical states awareness, why not first stabilize in something better than fear and pure delusion? And it's not a personal question, I'm talking generally about humanity, spiritual community obsessed with having "conclusions" and building theories about what is awakening and enlightenment, but within them they are not touching Truth on a daily basis for a significant amount of time. Good to see you brother. I agree with everything. "Polish your life so that the truth is as close as possible to the surface". Nice . @Tahuti If you are fine settling with that...

Some years ago when I was young and naive, I bitched a lot about the wasted time meditating, watching Leos videos, and for that matter watching all kind of spiritual videos that teach about enlightenment, Truth , etc. At that time I only saw the point in having fun, getting money and success, having girls, being cool, going on adventures, etc. Now after some time I see the deep wise on having done this work, it's starting to "pay" dividends. Im no super man and I still have lots of mastery to do and fix my habits In lots of ways, lots of it. But there are some days, when I retreat myself a bit from social engagement and just about almost anything apart from putting out the necessary work hours, and I just find myself in my home, with a weird smile on my face and clear-kind of warm comfort blanket around me, its not a physical blanket, but a metaphorical one: its a "subtle intuition" of... the differences are not there and damn it feels fucking nuts that one day could one be this conscious without doing anything, but just as a result of everything one has done and learn, over the years. Nothing more to say! Wishing luck for everyone else still seeking and that yeah the work pays but its grueling and nobody will support you, so have that in mind when you are not seeing results and get unmotivated.

Yeah, but he was convinced I was not real so he wanted to fuck with me. When I cut him off he left to the garage to take the car. When I realized I run outside to try to stop him, he almost hit me, luckily the garage door stopped him LOL. All of this while he was full on tripping and I was on mild dose of some RC shitty empathogen. Fuck that, ain't tripping with others ever.

Infinity is NOT an experience LoL You need stop thinking in logical terms, open your perception instead. @Edvardas sorry can't unquote

? Keep going I guess then ?

Can you get into bliss states without meditation? As far as I'm concerned the point of the practices are to build the skill of producing those states not just when you are doing the practice. Still a good achievement tho', not trying to downplay it, just talking about what is possible).

Absolute Love, I Iike it ?

I was going to fake a document to be able to enter a university residency for 10 months... Why? The prices of my city for renting are mad and my salary is low...I couldn't afford a flat on my own and I'm sick of sharing apartment with people I don't know, so these residency was offering a small but very cool and new studio with everything I could ask to live alone... Oh and also they had pool, cinema, gym... It would be just changing a number 3 times, in a PDF of 8 pages... It was so perfect, I even hired a Pakistani Adobe Photoshop freelancer on fiverr to do it for me. The PDF was protected against edits but the motherfucker was able to even trick this mechanism. I was so pumped up and excited, I felt like such a smart guy (going a little bit against the law and doing this kind of 'tricks' always gives me such a RUSH, I don't know if it's because I have narcissism traits or something like that..., But the thought of me "tricking" society with things like that it's like a revenge of some sort and makes me feel and intelligent and brilliant) . Anyways I end up messaging the residency today and telling them an excuse of why I'm cancelling my booking (I even already pay them 150$ to secure the booking one week ago)... I couldn't do it. The fear that they could ask me for other kind of document or even verify the legitimacy of it was enough to scare me. But also I think because it's childish to do these kind of stuff. I got such a rush in thinking I could trick them and be smartest fucker of the city ...but what if doesn't go well and the trick ends up being expensive for me... Better to be legit. I think I did the right thing. Some decisions are hard to make but my heart feels I did the right, sensible, conscious choice.

?? thanks for the compliment. Yeah you right I need to watch out to not fall into this devilry schemes my ego loves to play @lxlichael wut

Of course it is. How couldn't be? Morality is based on guilt. If people were conscious we wouldn't need morality.

That's really a very accurate way to put it ? totally fits my experience.