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http://www.eastern-spirituality.com/glossary/spirituality-terms/m-definitions/mahasamadhi Mahasamādhi Completion of the final incarnation of a realized being. Mahasamādhi (the great and final samādhi) is the act of consciously and intentionally leaving one's body. A realized yogi (male) or yogini (female) who has attained the state of nirvikalpa samadhi, will, at an appropriate time, consciously exit from their body. This is known as mahasamadhi. This is not the same as the physical death that occurs for an unenlightened person. Enlightened yogis take their mahasamadhi during their final practice of samadhi: and they expire during this final sadhana practice. Therefore, mahasamadhi occurs only once in a lifetime, when the yogi finally casts off their mortal frame and their karma is extinguished upon death. An enlightened or realized yogi is one who has attained the nondual state of nirvikalpa samadhi where duality of subject and object are resolved and the yogi becomes permanently established in the unity of full enlightenment (Videha mukti). Each realized yogi enters and prepares for mahasamadhi in a unique fashion. Sushila Blackman (1997) furnishes a number of examples.

And who can know about that?

That's what non-duality is... He is both at the same time. Like you are too. It's a paradox, but he always had a tendency to be humble and he never said he was God. He said "Me and God are one"... The way he says it you can infer that he is God, but you can also infer that he is different than God... but also one with him at the same time. Confusing, right? A lot of truths has to be answered with paradoxes.

Nice post @Monkey-man I think too there's also a personal God, it's not all impersonal. But I am always open to be mistaken or deluded. And I didn't know about those Vaishnavas, I will find out. Very interesting. Thanks!

But he never said he was God.

It means that you create what you believe. Hell is clinging to the false self. The false self is the one that has fear about hell, and he may end creating it. Even if the false self (in this case the bishops) says that hell doesn't exist. The true self can make them go there so they learn not to cling to false and know the thruth. You have an example on the bible, the pharisees think about themselves that they won't end up in Hell because they were righteous. But they were deceiving themselves. They were creating a big spiritual ego. That's why Leo said that maybe they will end up on hell. Belief is not reality. You can have a belief but reality maybe different. The best way is to pay attention to what is, and not what your mind (thoughts) say.

You mean the small self, right? I agree...

That's what I was trying to explain to @Freakrik he has nothing to fear about Hell or any other projection of himself.

The thing that does not have free will is the ego, what you think you are. Normally our ego "thinks" he's doing something and that it has choice or free will, but it hasn't. Consciousness is doing everything or creating. You create your own reality, it means that if you need to have that experience consciousness will give it to you. But, if you realize that there's no "you"... who is going to end in hell? There's no one to be in hell in reality. What we think we are is just an idea. Let me tell you my experience. I was also really worried about not going to hell. I was christian and I was afraid of the things people say about Hell, etc. The day I was liberated from that was when I realize that if consciousness thinks that I have to go to hell, there's nothing I can do. So I will do whatever I think is good to not go there, I have to accept reality as is. If I deserve to go to hell, even if I am thinking that what I am doing is Ok, I will go, because there's nothing I can do about it. You have to submit totally to reality and not be afraid by nothing. Think about Jesus, how he supported all that punishment, because reality had that for him. I learned by mindful meditation, that nothing can scare me. If I keep that separation between me and my thoughts, I can walk on Hell and laugh about it. hehehe...R

There's a possibility. But if you are asking questions and trying to find out about your true self, I don't think it will happen. Most of the population don't even worry about that, so you will be Ok.

The price comes by the actions. Everything you do comes back. It's Karma's law. In the material level if you boil water, it boils. Same thing with your actions, if you do something with a bad intention there's will be a response of the universe to balance that act. Who knows how? It's better to act accepting the law of Karma, and not doing anything agains it.

I google it and I found this: https://www.near-death.com/religion/buddhism/tibetan-book-of-the-dead.html

I didn't arrive to that part, but I think is a matter of low consciousness. When you are attached to the body and to material things, after you die, you have nothing of that, you are not prepared to let go and probably you can stay in a kind of hellish place until you let that go. But that's only my idea, when I reach at that part I let you know.

I think there are more dudettes here, but they are a bit shy of posting their pictures.

I didn't finish reading the Tibetan Book of the Dead, but it explains a lot of things about Hell and other demons, entities, etc...

It seems that everything you say is in what I am actually investigating or being curious to understand. I was watching a video to understand epistemology like two weeks ago.

Cool. I know "know thyself" is the key. I will be paying attention to those books. :-)

Ok, thanks. I will continue with it.

Yes... reading books and watching youtube videos about enlightenment. Lately I am only listening to Alan Watts. But not looking for anything, only because I like what and how he says it. That's true, I think is "my ego" being impatient or anxious for results. Lol...

Maybe I open a thread about it, to not hijack this one. But what is happening to "me" is that I am tired of listening. I can't find anything new in what they say. I see like I know what is needed but somewhat the identification with the ego is still there. I know is fear, what I am trying to do is to slow the mind the more I can.

Because I AM

@Faceless Thanks, it's really powerful to know that. Nice. :-)

"I wonder what you mean when you use the word 'I'? I have been very interested in this problem for a long long time; and I have come to the conclusion that what most civilised people mean by that word is a hallucination, that is to say, a false sense of personal identity that is at complete variance with the facts of Nature. And as a result of having a false sense of identity we act in a way that is inappropriate to our natural environment, and when that inappropriate way of action is magnified by a very powerful technology we swiftly begin to see the results of a profound discord between man and Nature. [...] and we have not realised therefore that our environment is not something other than ourselves. In assuming that it is we have made a great mistake and are now paying the price for it. [...] because we have the strong sensation that our own being inside our skin is extremely different from the world outside our skin. That while there may be intelligence inside human skins and while there may be values and loving feelings, outside the skin is a world of mechanical process which does give a damn about any individual and which is basically unintelligent [...]. But it does not occur, you see, to the ordinary civilised person to regard himself - or herself -- as an expression of the whole universe. [...] You go with your environment in the same way as your head goes with the rest of your body. [...] But in the ordinary way, we don't feel it; that is to say, we don't have a vivid sensation of belonging to our environment in the same way that we have a sensation of being an ego inside a bag of skin located mostly in the skull, about half way between the ears and a little way behind the eyes. And it issues in these disastrous results of the ego which, according to nineteenth-century common sense, feels that it is a fluke in Nature and that if it does not fight Nature it will not be able to maintain its status as intelligent fluke. [...] Using symbols and using conscious intelligence - scanning (Nature) - has proved very useful to us. It has given us such technology as we have, but at the same time it has proven too much of a good thing. At the same time we've become so fascinated with it that we confuse the world as it is with the world as it is thought about, talked about and figured about, that is to say, with the world as it is described. And the difference between these two is vast. And when we are not aware of ourselves except in a symbolic way, we are not related to ourselves at all. We are like people eating menus instead of dinners. [...] So then we get back to the question of 'What do we mean by "I"?'. Well first of all, obviously, we mean our symbol of ourselves. Now, ourselves in this case, is the whole psychophysical organism, conscious and unconscious, plus its environment. That's your real Self. Your real Self, in other words, is the Universe as centred on your organism. That's you. [...] You are not a puppet which your environment pushes around, nor is the environment a puppet which you push around. They go together, they act together.[...] We are only rarely aware of this as when in curious alterations of consciousness which we call mystical experience, cosmic consciousness... An individual gets the feeling that everything that is happening is his own doing, or the opposite of that feeling, that he isn't doing anything; but that all his doings - his decisions and so forth - are happenings of Nature. You can feel it either way. You can describe it in this two completely opposite ways but you are talking about the same experience. You are talking about experiencing your own activity and the activity of Nature as one single process. [...]" "Through our eyes, the universe is perceiving itself. Through our ears, the universe is listening to its harmonies. We are the witnesses through which the universe becomes conscious of its glory, of its magnificence." Alan Watts

Can it be said that everything that "the ego wants" is wrong? @Faceless ?

Everything is just a story that the ego creates. You are not really narcissistic, the ego is created by our environment, our friends, relatives, colleagues, teachers, school, etc. In reality the ego is not something real. So anything you think that you are not worthy, that you are a failure or whatever it appears in your consciousness is not true. I suggest you doing mindful meditation, learn to observe your thoughts without getting in the "story" they tell. And listen to Alan Watts, he has tons of videos in youtube. This one is Key IMO