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@FirstglimpseOMG So happy for you, whoever you are I went through a flash much quicker and less intense that yours about an hour ago, I really hear you when you say that you saw the ego for what it really is, so true! Reading your post gave me so much joy considering I completely got every part of what you were saying. If I was Christian, I would say that I connected with god. I have no idea why it feels so majestic, deep and awesome, but it does!

@JustinS To be totally honest, your confusion is correct, not having free will doesn't make sense, its completely absurd!!! How can 'you' not have free will???? You're making decisions aren't you?? You, whatever you are, awareness, an ego, you must be doing some action?? But here's the thing, you're making the mistake of thinking that you are something. You aren't. identification itself is an illusion. You are undefined, 'you are <fill in something>' doesn't work beyond thought. And this may seem voo doo to you right now, but that's just because you are looking at this from an unrealistic perspective. You are trying to do: cat + dog when you try to think about how you are not existing. It doesn't make sense. When awareness reveals that ego is an illusion, the mindset will change from English to Mathematics, 5 + 6 will be in awareness instead, making perfect sense. Being in a state of connection to the ego, and being in a state of detachment, are literally as different as parallel universes, which you can experience. You not having free will doesn't make sense in a paradigm that believes that the ego is a real thing, or that someone is percieving awareness. But having free will doesn't make sense in a paradigm that doesn't identify with the ego, a paradigm that looks at awareness directly in the face, without any thoughts attached. I dont think you can describe these experiences or understandings, but nothing stops you from trying

Yeah this is exactly what it seems to 'me' too. When you talk about free will, you automatically make a division between 'you' and the world you are gaining free will from. For free will to exist, something has to have free will in the first place. Now can you spot that thing anywhere in awareness? I can't....

@Ross bro morality is just a way for people in charge to control other people, don't be a sheep and follow what other people tell you. And there is nothing 'wrong' with cold approach, sometimes its better because you don't have to deal with trying out people you know, or your friends know, if something goes wrong And RSD wasn't banned because of their harsh treatment, it was banned because governments are feminist sucking apologists who can't handle freedom of speech

@Rashad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15014.Crucial_Conversations list goes on and on

@Cuzzo The thing is that Islam means different things to different people. Because the Koran is so vague, you can literally twist it 100 different ways to suit your agenda. Not only can you do that, but you can justify inequality, discrimination, violence, etc by saying that you are doing something under the name of Islam. Because you cannot prove that a certain interpretation is more wrong than the other, a lot of muslims get away with doing harm. You cannot understand more about islam, because no one really knows what islam is, including muslims, as much as they don't want to admit it.

@charlie2dogs Yes you're right, I don't know, hence why I said that choosing enlightenment is choosing to go on a panet you know nothing about. "are you telling me that all these opinions on this forum about what enlightenment is dont mean anything?" Yes I am. You can't explain an experience most people haven't experienced before, so they really don't. But you seem to be saying that pursuing enlightenment is futile. I don't know why people on this forum make that assertion. Plenty of people on this planet don't pursue enlightenment, and all of those people are not enlightened. Buddhist on the other hand do pursue enlightenment, and most of them are much more self actualized then the general public.

@Ayla May I ask why did you decide to find truth? What made you so hungry for truth? Was it a past experience? An insight? Pain/dissatisfaction?

Wow... if I could, I would give this post 2 upvotes. Thanks guys so much for sharing! I urge everyone, not just people who are in immediate pain, to give this technique a try. I've just spent the last hour doing deep instrospection as outlined by Charlie, and its pretty touching for me, when I've just fully realized in the last 5 minutes that everything I've been doing in the last 5 years; getting into pickup, making myself go to heaps of social events, planning to live away from home, has all been trying to solve a problem that was created by me(ego), and I didn't even realize. As a tip, if you want to turbocharge this technique, once you've found the pain body, the core of your problem, absorb it in the same way Leo describes here: Because what you will realize, as I did, is that its you running away that causes suffering, not the pain itself.

Try this one too:

Deciding to become enlightened, is like deciding to live on a new planet that you have no idea about. It could be isolated, baron, extreme conditions, unhabitable or it could be a beautiful utopia with trees, forests, oxygen, food, etc If you decide to go onto the new planet, you may die, or you may be in the most beautiful place in the world. BUT if you decide to not take the chance to go to this new planet, then its guaranteed that you will never be on a heavenly planet. In the past, humanity has had to take risks to get to great places, taking the risk to travel to the US, Australia, etc. And for one person in society, like you, you will have to do the same with enlightenment

Hi Rahul, are you talking about Leo's self acceptance video? Because I've actually have gotten like no/poor results from doing it, after a week, I've seen no payoffs.

@99th_monkey Why would anyone choose to wake up then? If it doesn't give you anything? Why choose to pursue enlightenment instead of cutting your arm with a knife? If both give the same benefits? And how can you just 'wake up'. That's like say just get 1000000 dollars, then become rich.

@jjer94 I've heard this pathless path stuff before -> gateless gate(Buddhists), you can't seek enlightenment, you just have to realize what you already are (Eckart Tolle), there is no way of becoming enlightened(Alan Watts) But if we take your advice, and say that there is no path to enlightenment, then why meditate at all? Sure it may seem more realistic to say that its a pathless path, and that you can't really do anything to get enlightened because free will doesn't exist(once you've become aware of that fact), but to someone who hasn't realized that yet(me and OP) telling someone on the internet that they shouldn't meditate because everyone is different can potentially stop them from 'realizing' their true self. This idea that you shouldn't meditate because there's no path in the first place is just an impractical overview in my opinion. Factually speaking, if you don't meditate you will have a much lower chance of getting oops realizing enlightenment. It takes work to get realize your true self, without doing the work, you will end up like everyone else who doesn't meditate, not enlightened.

@Leo Gura surely there are some situations where the problem is the girl and not you... such as when your values don't align with the girl, or when the girl falls into the categories you described in your red flag video

If you keep meditating, even after 10 years there's a chance that you will gain some insights, or even enlightenment. If you stop meditating it is GUARANTEED that you will never gain any insights, and will NEVER reach enlightenment. Also I just want to point out some Wisdom I heard from Alan Watts. Now if an 8 year old child told you that you should expect this that and the other after 1 month of meditation, would you listen to that child? NO. Because that child knows nothing about meditation! Now remember that you know about as much about meditation as the average 8 year old, so why are you taking advice about what you should expect and what you shouldn't from yourself? I started meditating about a month and a half ago, I started AT 30 minutes, and have consistently been meditating every day. I also haven't achieved any insights. so you aren't the only one.

When talking to someone, and they reject you, how do you overcome it? I don't just limit this to sexuality, but in business interviews, asking someone if you can join their group, when you are marketing(door knocking) and get rejected when someone doesn't like your product or services? Etc. How do you not get discouraged enough to continue doing the process that led to the rejection? For example asking for a girl's phone number/for sex, or going to investors to get some money for your business?

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@Mal maybe ive already seen the video?

@Mal "real women watch you and laugh", so the 'fake' women who I'm using my techniques on are cyborgs? It sounds so inspirational and benevolent to exclaim 'just be yourself' to attract women into your life But unfortunately in the real world, sometimes who you truely are is someone whose nerdy, someone who is physically unattractive, boring(or just finds interests in things that the majority of women don't). You might feel majestic and self righteous in 'being yourself', but that's only because you haven't been rejected enough to realize that being yourself sometimes isn't enough. We are all machines, really, every one of us, and while it seems a little robotic, we can all learn to appeal to people's natural instincts through learning PUA techniques. Please tell me 1 person who didn't use PUA to get girls? Just one. There aren't many. Probably because it has a low chance of success. Even Leo used PUA techniques to get laid, and have a lasting relationship.

@Mal Absorbing and taking the whole thing in may be counter productive, of course I don't believe any principles or propositions made by the PUA community, but their techniques are very useful.

Yeah a lot of guys become myopic, and just soley focus on the WHAT rather than the WHY. But I think that experiencing life and not worrying about the consequences is a MUCH better option, then not experiencing life, so that you don't get any consequences at all. Yes people are zombies now, but how can you blame them? As Alan Watts said, for you to improve, you need to improve youself, so someone who lacks the improvement you desire is tasked with improving that part of you. How can you improve? This is why sometimes I treat Leo as gospell, because I believe someone with more wisdom then me would have a better idea at knowing what is best for me, then I do. For me personally, the only reason why I'm pursuing Pickup is because I don't want to be left behind in the sex game, and also because Leo basically told us in one of his videos for college students to pursue sexual endeavours, other than that I hate picking up chicks in the club, clubs are sleezy, unheigenic, alcohol lowers your awareness, your sleeping pattern gets screwed over. And then you have the issues of dealing with guys who get angry because they chick your after hes also after. For something people do every week, its not that enjoyable. But because I trust Leo's insights, I will continue to go clubbing purely for self improvement.

I'm pretty much in the same position as you are And in my opinion, you should DEFINITELY do pickup. There are going to be times in life where you will HAVE TO do things that you DON'T want to endure and do, along with working long hours, solving family issues, pickup will be another one of those things. Yes its going to be emotionally challenging, but at the end of the day, there will be a time in your life where you will die, and on your death bed you aren't going to be regretting all of the horrible embarresment you endured picking up chicks, the times a girl said "fuck off!" to you at a club, the time you completely made a fool of yourself in bed. You will be regretting the fact that you didn't try to sleep with anyone at all. So stop worrying about how much you don't want to do pick up, and like a snow plower, plow through those negative experiences and DO PICKUP

Yes Sometimes 'talking shit' about people can decrease or lower their reputation, and therefore virtually increasing yours.

So I've started meditating(been doing it for 3 days), I'm just curious about how you guys are measuring your progress. How do you guys know if your technique is a 'high yield' technique? Or if its ineffective? And I also wanted to ask, how much improvement have you guys made since meditating? How long have you been meditating and what sort of interesting or helpful stuff are you guys noticing/ experiencing from meditation?