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It is a reencounter with death. The real world, person, life is a dream and is bound by time and space, it can seem as if you've been trapped there for a very long time but that is the point of the word "dream." It is not really happening. An awakening to positionless being can apparently happen, in that there is only timeless appearance, before form/matter/labels/objects. What is longed for is not this experience, but the recognition that whatever is, is all there is. Apparent position and apparent time is not a problem, it is only a problem for the dream of only real. When this recognition happens, nothing actually changes, but it apparently does. This finally has the freedom of being what it is without an individual in it trying to tweak it to fit it's idea of what will bring it Liberation. Liberation is the death of this needing to be different, everything loses it's significance. Positionlessness can happen, but no one is there to make a big deal of out anything anymore. The point I'm making is that there is no point. This message is not for you.
Notice that all of this is bullshit, what is pointed to is not within these words.
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12 minutes ago, kagaria said:@traveler nice! but this reminds of a neo-advaita path of denial.
Any path is unconditional love appearing as denial of unconditional love.
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Resonate with Atman now, this is Atman. All of the paths are part of the divine play, dreamt up by a singular eternal being which is. Finding out what is meant by a phrase is just food for thought, you are playing in yourself right now. If you hear this message, it will be the end of you. Unconditional Love is all, hearing this message is not a requirement, Atman has no intention for you to hear this, Atman is already.
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Nothing to be said about this. Hell is a concept, so it is real in that sense. That said, commenting on states that are unbeknownst to you is very unwise. There are infinite apparent possibilities, "hell" is one of them, but there is no solid place called "hell," it is an interpretation of how energy takes form.
An experience of separation is hell, but it is fortunately not really happening. But say that to the apparent person experiencing it.
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Who said God is only the good, and are you even aware that you have no idea what you're talking about? You're just spewing out concepts into a sentence that makes no sense, beliefs you've picked up. It is probably based on an unconscious belief that you know what God is to some extent. You don't.
What you're longing for is not on this forum, but it is this forum. You are not actually reading this, you reading this is a dream. There is no separation between this message and what you are longing for.
You are already home, you're just pretending not to be. ?
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This is the beautiful futility of the search. The "I" seeks it's own absence which counterintuitively fuels it's own existence. See, the individual is illusory it isn't actually there, its whole existence is one huge questionmark. The impossibility for the individual is that it already is what is looked for, appearing as an individual looking for it. An apparent separate entity looking for everything. This is unacceptable for the individual because it is looking for a state in which that "it" will get enlightened and peaceful and so on. This has nothing to do with you, what happened for @traveler is similar to what is apparently happening for @meow_meow. The search got so strong that on an existential level the hopelessness of the search was recognised. There is no "and then" there is no answer, the questioner dies, the mystery lives on, apparently.
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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:The entire universe ends.
You're not appreciating this.
The universe was never real to begin with, so nothing really happens. The death of the separate self is the death of the dream of a beginning and an end.
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It is only disturbing if there is someone there understanding it. There is an inherent fulfillment in what is, a flavour of indescribable "love". What is longed for is the end of the one who takes on feelings and understandings. It is a dream of real separation and lack. When it is no more there is just what is, empty fullness as Tony calls it. It is immaculate. Difficulty is that there is an experience of someone there trying to get some state called enlightenment. The movement is always a movement away from what is longed for. All there is, is home. Home can appear as a person looking for home.
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4 minutes ago, cnfvm said:lololol. why did you invite me then
Aww, I didn't invite you bud, you are a story, you don't exist. All there is, is hell. Welcome, embrace your true nature ?
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Just now, cnfvm said:nah, i been there. it is just too hot there you know
You are here with me right now, don't you realize? You never left, the idea that you left us is just a cover up to make you feel safe. This is home, no where to go?
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1 minute ago, cnfvm said:you don't understand brother, that is why you are in hell.
Ofc. Join me bro, don’t be a chicken, come here, I won't bite ?
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4 minutes ago, cnfvm said:Leo confirmed he is a devil multiple times on this forum. he even has 666 on his wall.
what did you expect?
not just him tho, %80 of this forum follows a person who accepts being devil, makes them also devils.
Nothing wrong with devils, I don't care actually. It is just what is happening. There aren't real consequences. People who talks "spiritually" are just annoying asf, imo. I can't stand that shit, and they have such a superiority complex towards everyone that criticises their bullshit fake ass facade. So cringey.
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Just now, Rilles said:well, i never liked "me" anyway,
caused a hella lotta trouble
Lol, yea fuck that bitch ass annoying ass energy... ruining everything.
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1 minute ago, WaveInTheOcean said:We were always chasing our own tails
That is what "we" do ?
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If your head ? is not stuck in the tigers? mouth already? get the hell out?♀️ before it grabs you?. You don't want this ?, this ? is not for you❌?, this? is the death of you?. A ?spiritual awakening? is not a blessing?, it is a curse.?☠ It will make the dream??? into a nightmare?♂️?, it will make you search hopelessly?? forever.?? The supposed knowledge Leo Gura?or other teachers? and gurus? have is futile?. It is beautiful on the surface ? until you actually witness ? a hightened state of consciousness/God consciousness?❄?. Now your stuck chasing your own tail ?
Hope this scared you. ?
I dare you to close this thread for low quality content, I double dare you MODS.
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The separate self only sees objects, it even makes "nothing" into an object. You can't understand nothing. Understanding nothing is the death of the understanding/the knower. There would be no position left to know anything.
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7 minutes ago, Member said:To know it is to get there. You cannot know what ego death is until you experience it.
But anyway, nothing happens by itself which is everything = you are God happening.
Cool, have you been there? How was it? Did you bring luggage?
9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:Ever heard of something called 'reflection'?
There can be no reflection without projection. And no Being without either one of those.
Light reflects, bro.
Okay. I have lost interest, I'm sowwy. x(
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3 minutes ago, Member said:You don't know what the Void is?
No, do you?
2 minutes ago, ivankiss said:Projection is necessary.
Hehe, sure it is bud.
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3 minutes ago, Member said:What to put dude
Things are not happening by themselves, you make it happen.
Idk, I had no idea what you meant. "Void is nothing" yeah... and?
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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:...And those who cannot stand themselves and crave full annihilation are all over it. ?
They think it's their way out. When in fact it's just pulling them closer in.
...Into The Light. Into Being. Into Love.
Maybe that is a belief some have. Probably just you projecting though.
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1 minute ago, Member said:The void is nothing.
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Just now, Member said:This nothing is just a play of words, life goes on nevertheless. It's just an excuse to avoid responsibility for own actions and IS false modesty.
Suffering and separation comes from misunderstanding of one's true nature which is everything, not some thing or some body.
I don't like nothing because it creates confusion and make people doubt themselves.
It is impossible to understand nothing, that is the reason why the seeker hates that word.
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2 minutes ago, ivankiss said:Correct. But you are dreaming thus there is a process.
Yes apparently, but it is endless, processes apparently keep happening after but the process to awaken stops, obviously.
4 minutes ago, ivankiss said:I can do this forever, bro. - if ya ever wanna dance again.
You know why? Because I am genuinely enjoying it. I am passionate about speaking Truth. Love cannot exhaust itself.
Thanks for allowing me to practice my spiritual kung fu moves.
Yea, np dude.
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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:Once again; I am not convincing anyone anything. What you are sensing is probably just Love taking over; prevailing. - And you describe the process the way you do.
I.. am being me, expressing my thoughts and disagreeing with some of yours. Love is doing 'the rest' (all of it).
Aight. There is no process, only in the dream. But I'm not going to keep going, nothing wrong with what is apparently happening "over there".
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What you are longing for is the death of being aware of existence. Being aware of existence is a dream in an utter silent void. This is just a picture to you though, you have no idea what that means.