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    3 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

    But in your video about it, you said that it gave you such a calm thought-free state of mind you've never experienced before, why you don't like it now?

    I never liked it.

    It's got a very medical, clinical quality. You're taking a cat tranqulizer. Your eyes won't even work properly. It doesn't feel right. At least for me. I know some people love it. 

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    Doing the practices In such state can be very effective.

    I have never found it effective to do practices in the middle of a psychedelic state. But again, maybe that works for you, I don't know.

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    32 minutes ago, OBEler said:

    @Leo Gura yeah we disagree here completely then. Fine by that, I am german and know how my German ancestors think and lived. They were the opposite of conservatives and from studying Hitlers ideology and their actions it makes no sense to me to even consider Nazis as conservatives. But interesting to hear other views.

    Are you claiming Nazis were liberals?

    Are you claiming they were neither, some magical transcendental political breed?

    You do understand thar Jordan Peterson and conservatives at large are angeling to cast Hitler as a left-wing socialist?

    I am tired of such mental gymnastics. Which is why I made my post. If people didn't play these games I wouldn't be talking about Hitler.

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    25 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

    @Leo Gura If there wasn't dangers associated with Ketamine, you could utilize it in your practices, such that you take some doses to effectively calm down your mind and in that state the spiritual practices could becomes very effective.

    1) Ketamine is not that dangerous. I know people who take it regularly. Not that I recommend that.

    2) Personally I dislike ketamine.

    3) Ketamine is not going to do much for your baseline state. At least in my experience.

    4) Psychedelics will be more effective for this work than ketamine for most users. With some exceptions.

    15 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

    Struggling with finding a point in spiritual practice after a profound God-Realization. If the ultimate understanding of reality is the goal, why continue any spiritual practice after it happens?

    Nobody on this planet is even 5% conscious of God on a regular basis.

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    8 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

    Have you thought about Taking 5-MeO or DMT and while you are in in that absolute level of consciousness you create your own spiritual practice? So later when you are 'sober' you can use it. 

    At those levels of consciousness spiritual practice doesn't even make sense. You are barely holding yourself together not to shit yourself or jump out a window.

    It doesn't really reveal any magic secret formula for massive consciousness. At least not for me.

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    23 minutes ago, Nemra said:

    @Leo Gura Would you consider joining those kinds of communities to learn a technique?

    When you say techniques, do you mean the ones that aren't human inventions?

    Can't you intuit or know if the techniques in those communities work or not by having done other techniques? They might even be a trap for getting you in and staying stuck like them, which might corrupt your previous awakenings.

    My intuition tells me to not waste my time in those communities and do psychedelics and/or rely on and work on my mental faculties.

    It all depends. There is no one right answer. Different things work for different people and people have different goals.

    You just have to test those things which seem juiciest to you and adjust your approach based off that.

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    Again, I explained why that is.

    It is a paradox of fundamentalism that it seeks to return to the old by radically overturning the current order in clever new ways.

    Osama Bin Laden was very conservative, to the point of even rejecting recordings of music. Yet he employed advanced 20th century technology to do his killing, and porn was found on his laptop. Contradiction? Yes! Conservatives are full of shit. They don't have integrity. You can find 100 blatant contradictions in any conservative's worldview and behavior.

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    13 minutes ago, Ayham said:

    Your point is that basically initation can be helpful but it's more yogic dogma and you can do it all on your own

    There are tradeoffs with each approach.

    Some people might benefit from a more traditonal approach that holds their hand. Others might get trapped in it.

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    But have you directly experienced some sort of initation or transmission? If so, did you feel anything? Are you open to trying it out?

    I went through Sadhguru's basic intitiation. But he wasn't even there so it doesn't count for much.

    I have had sprititual people try to do energy transmissions on me. None of it worked a damn bit.

    If you really wanna do the traditional approach, the biggest key is to find yourself a serious, hardcore guru who will be there for you. Not someone like Sadhguru who is mostly doing celebrity guru stuff. You have to look for a lesser known guru who can give you one-on-one attention. Basically this means moving to India. I would consider that a valid path, but it's not suitable for most Westerners.

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    38 minutes ago, OBEler said:

    Nazis were way more radical than the most ultra conservative men. They wanted to build an entire new world based on biological principles and would readily sacrifice their own lifes for this new vision. 

    Overall Nazis were too revolutionary, they have their own category on the political spectrum.

    The majority of Nazis were simple people with basic conservative values like family, country, God, and traditional gender roles.

    Some Nazi lunatic mastermind might have a plan for global domination or whatever, but that's not what the base cares or even knows about.

    Yes, as you get more extreme right or left on the political specturm people start getting crazier and crazier ideas. Because the vast majority of people are pretty moderate and down the middle. They aren't looking for some ideological ideal. They have to be radicalized into the extremes through brainwashing.

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    19 minutes ago, Nemra said:

    @Leo Gura Do you think you can awaken someone with your content?

    Depends on how you measure it and what you mean.

    If someone takes DMT after hearing me speak about it, does that count?

    I've had many people tell me they had awakenings from watching my content, but I have no idea how deep it was or if they are kidding themselves, or how much I had to do with it.

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    I don't think you would be awakened or reach higher states without psychedelics. Am I wrong?

    That played a huge part in my understanding of things.

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    Can't someone delude himself enough to speak of the same things as you do?

    You can parrot stuff, but it's really hard to speak coherently about God without direct experience of it.

    Laymen may be fooled, but it's very aparent to me who speaks from experience and who is just conceptualizing.

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    How do you measure the limits of the techniques?

    This work is not clinical enough for such measurements. It's fly by feel.

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    Would you learn a technique if there's a high possibility of brainwashing yourself with human BS and wasting your time for the same or even better results?

    A technique by itself contains little human BS. The human BS is the whole intellectual system surrounding the technique.

    So I never worry about techniques themselves. I wish people would simply do more techniques and less talking. It's the endless talking and theorizing that's the problem.

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    6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

    @Leo Gura So it's the state change that matters. But how can you determine if others had actual awakenings if they speak like you?

    It is hard to know anything about another's 1st person experience.

    But you can interogate them and get clues.

    You can ask them, What is God? And you can quickly see of they have any clue.

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    If someone told you he or she had an awakening without doing meditation or psychedelics, would you say they were deluding themselves?

    No. It can happen.

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    9 minutes ago, OBEler said:

    Yeah I can understand that you see that as weird, because you heard probably otherwise in these propaganda docus on YouTube. You know I am from Germany and am not so much influenced from propaganda like other nations about Hitler because I can understand Hitlers speeches directly without any historican in between who doesn't know german culture, doesn't understand German language and who needs to fulfill the victory story.

    Hitler was not such a deep thinker that we must strain to understand him.

    The notion that American scholars do not understand Hitler is silly.

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    conservatists try normally to preserve existing social institutions, values and norms. Hitler wiped out these completely out of the window. Hitler brought a real revolutionary change in Germany society. If Nazis were just conservative, not so much would change.

    I already explained that.

    An ultra-conservative has to be revolutionary simply because relative to such a view all of society looks way too liberal.

    If I wanted to return to traditional American values of slavery and genocide of savages, I would have to wage a radical revolution that would make Ben Shapiro and Alex Jones look like weepy social justice warrior libs and care bears.

    A hardcore conservative would rape, execute, and enslave everyone outside his tribe. Don't kid yourself.