Leo Gura

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  4. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    5 minutes ago, OBEler said:

    Tell then a social conservative that he should adapt to changing times. He should from now on erase his human weakness, throw out his morals, traditions and norms he values so much out of the window so he can kill more Jews and die on the battle in pure faith for a single man called Hitler. Will he then still be a conservative person? 

    Are MAGA still conservatives?

    Why are they overturning democracy and supporting a rapist?

    It's quite easy to fool a conservative into killing minorities and following a strongman. We are living it.

  5. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    10 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    The elephant in the room in scarcity of resources

    That's true of course.

    And not just that, but we need complex systems to mediate all that. A pile of resources is of little use if there is no good education system, media system, court system, distribution system, etc. All these systems need to be evolved up.

    Soviet Russia and Communist China or Cuba didn't have such systems, so they devolved into barbarism. Jesus himself could not make Soviet Russia Green due to lack of systems.

  10. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    The problem isn't left vs right. The problem is that no one in politics is conscious or selfless enough to actually embody progressive ideals, nor is the populace at large. So the progressive ideals cannot be actualized, and we are left with lesser forms of conservative systems which match our actual levels of development.

    If all people were seriously progressive we wouldn't even need a legal system. But we are not so good.

  12. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    30 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @Leo Gura

       The main problem is that at that time Destiny willingly platformed Nick Fuentes who was known as a Neo Nazi, he allowed this osmosis between their 2 fanbases knowing who and what he stood for! It's not just talking or even debating a Nazi, Destiny was BEFRIENDING a Nazi! Therefore in this discussion and debate with Jordan Peterson, would this equate and count as a disqualification as well? Both arguers here are equally guilty of misrepresenting this Nazi ideology in their talks, so would you also consider disqualifying Destiny as well as Jordan?

       At least IMO both Destiny and Jordan sold their souls to the devil in this mistake. 

    Well, I don't like Destiny platforming Nick Fuentes. But what I really care about is whether Destiny has a fundamental misinderstanding of what Nazis are.

    Also, Destiny does not portray himself as an academic.

    Should Destiny be disqualified from talking about Nazism? I don't see why. Does he endorse Nick Fuentes? I doubt it.

    The issue isn't who you talk to, the issue is what ideas do you promote and want to see in office. We know who JP wants in office: Mike Pence.

  13. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    What you guys are missing about leftist dictators is that they use leftist ideology as a cover for a ruthless authoritarian power grab. None of those leftist dictators had the level of development necessariy to actually govern in a democratic, progressive, or even neoliberal manner.

    There is a deep asymmetry between right and left governance. Left governance is much harder because it requires higher levels of development. Right governance does not. Therefore someone who wants power can use left ideology as a smokescreen to get it. But in practice these people are still quite conservative in their manner. It's like an ape who tries to act like a saint.

    The reason these issues are so complex and messy is because all ideology is overridden by survival, unconsciousness, and lust for power. So people claim to be one way, or believe one thing, but then act the opposite when things get tight.

    Soviet Russia did have genuinely progressive people, but they were all quickly purged even before Stalin took power. In reality the Soviet system was run by criminals and thugs.

    Stalin was a bank robber. So him professing progressive ideals was always a load of shit.

    Do not confuse Stalin and Mao for stage Green SJWs. Those are very different beasts. Soviet and Chinese Communism is not stage Green. It never could be. Which is why it failed so badly.

  20. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    7 minutes ago, OBEler said:

    The fundamental differences in principles, goals, and methods necessitate distinguishing between extreme right-wing fascism and conservatism, even at its most traditional or reactionary.

    You can distinguish them, but there is an obvious pipeline from one to the other. And it works so effectively precisely because most people are not good at distinguishing the two.

    It's hard to create a pipeline from leftists to Nazis. Ask yourself why.

  21. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    8 minutes ago, k-ahmadzadeh said:

    By listening to the whole dating advice staff, I only get the sense that the situation is hopeless for me and everything is out of my control except gym staff. He talks like as if everything is under the our control so that we can push a button and the thing we want will immediately happen. I would say that those dating advices can work for people who have right genes. Listening to this staff reminds me how I am unable to do these magical shits. 

    The beauitful thing about Owen is how hard he had to work to reach his level of mastery. The reason Owen is so appealing is because he's not good-looking and he was a depressed hardcase newbie. He acheived a lot through sheer effort. Owen doesn't teach that you will push a button and get success with girls. He tells you to work hard for it.

    There is nothing magical about going out consistently every weekend. It's a grind.

    A lot is out of your control but you can move to a big city and start going out every weekend and talking to girls.

  23. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    1 minute ago, OBEler said:

    Because right-wing is a much broader term which can include conservative.However while the Nazis operated on the far-right of the political spectrum with its authoritarian and nationalist policies, its radicalism, totalitarianism, and racial ideology place it outside the bounds of traditional conservatism.

    It's essential to recognize these distinctions to understand the specific nature of Nazi ideology. That's what I try here to point out the whole time.

    You can achieve that same result by having degrees of conservative.

    There are psycho-conservatives.

  25. Posted · Edited by Leo Gura

    29 minutes ago, Mormegil said:

    I always saw it that their is a ton of overlap between conservatives and Nazis, so Nazis have to be conservatives as well by nature. But they have perverted the conservative world view (just like they perverted anything else they touched) and took it too a degree where a normie conservative (even a right one) should not follow them. 

    Of course! That's what extremism entails.

    A very moderate Nazi is just a friendly conservative.

    A TRUE Christian is rare as a hen's tooth. So that doesn't mean much in political discourse, which deals with large averages.

    Since most people do not think, they follow, they are easily seduced by extremists.