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37 minutes ago, Hojo said:The solution is to stop thinking which is not knowing.
If only it were so simple.
Life forces you to think, anticipate, plan, predict, decide, model.
Not thinking is not an option. This is one of the stupidities of teachings like Buddhism or nonduality. There is no such thing as not thinking. Everyone who claims not to think is thinking, and thinking poorly.
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Plot twist: Ralston was sipping LSD from his water cup all along.
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2 hours ago, thierry said:I don’t get how Ralston having amazing genetics means psychedelics wouldn’t work on him
It doesn't have to mean that. It's just coincidence.
I have a very conscious friend. DMT makes him less conscious because he is a genetic freak.
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The solution to self-deception is not-knowing.
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2 hours ago, JosephKnecht said:Speaking of the devil, Ramaji now promises Enlightenment in a year or less.
Such nonsense.
These people are self-deception incarnate.
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I have never experienced a 5-MeO not working at full effect.
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No, that is a dangerous oversimplification. You give up control over a crucial thing and you will end up dead.
That's why control is a thing.
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1 hour ago, AION said:Can everything he teaches, for example zen body being be learned from DMT?
Obviously not. That isn't the point.
No one says DMT will teach you how to clean your toilet.
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54 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:I thought you practiced self-inquiry/contemplation and meditation during your trips. Why then does it work so well for you and not for any hippie who smokes DMT? Could it be your genetics too?
My genetics is a factor, but also I've done so much philosophical work, like 15 years worth.
Psychedelics work on most people. Most people just don't apply them seriously. They trip for fun a few times in their life. I turned psychedelica into a hardcare existential practice.
What hippie has done over 40 different psychedelics over 500 times, combined with 15 years of deep contemplation?
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Why do you think I don't teach what Ralston teaches? You think it's just because I'm too arrogant to follow it? No. It's because I deeply tested what Ralston teaches and realized it to be highly ineffective for the typical human.
I teach what I teach because it is the most effective thing I found after testing the entire spiritual domain for 10 years.
Self-inquiry and meditation are highly ineffective unless you have special genetics. Which is why so few people succeed via those methods.
I have tested these things to exhaustion, way more than they deserve. I have been very fair and patient with the dogmatic techniques.
There is no way I could have the understanding of God/Consciousness/Infinity that I have without psychedelics. So what Ralston is saying is flat out nonsense. He can't deny what I am conscious of and clearly understand.
I have a profound understanding of Infinity beyond almost any human. How do you explain that I have this understanding? I didn't read it in any book.
None of Ralston's students has a deeper grasp of Infinity than me. This includes Brendon.
The only reason I understand Infinity so well is because I took enough psychedelics to kill an elephant. This isn't theory or my belief. I actually did it.
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Just do it, but don't take large doses.
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14 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:It's nonsensical if you assume it is the result of a process. That's why I hinted that it's a paradoxical possibility that's inherently mysterious. You just do - you "take the leap through consciousness." And it is sudden and now. Relative conditions are irrelevant.
In the analogy, how do you explain the waking up from the dream? What do you attribute it to? Do you think it is attributable to some cause or action, or an outcome, or an activity? Like A + B + C = awakening? How could the content of the dream possibly produce the experience of awakening from it? It is not possible to put together some content of the dream to produce a realization of its nature. Everywhere you look and everything you do is the dream - including your body.
This is what "direct" is all about.
No, this is false. You are parroting Ralston. I know all these arguments he makes and they are empirically false.
DMT is more direct than anything Ralston says or teaches.
The utter absurdity here is that DMT is MORE direct, not less. What's truly indirect is listening to Ralston or doing sober self-inquiry.
I teach about psychedelics because they are hands down the most direct way to higher consciousness that I have seen. And I tried many of the other ways. They just aren't as effective.
The only reason Ralston is able to get far in his work is because he has unique special genetics which no one else has. Which is also why psychedelics don't work well on him. That's what's really going on which none of his students understand. Even Ralston does not understand this.
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@Jowblob Of course my teachings are limited. But they are still better than most of what's out there.
And anyway, my teaching should be one part of your information intake. My teachings are not exclusive. You can and should combine them with dozens of other teachings and perspectives.
I have never claimed to offer a total perspective. You need other perspectives besides mine.
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2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:Self-inquiry doesn't do it either.
More nonsense.
The amount of misinformation you guys create about Consciousness is wild.
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4 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:You think that, in order to wake up from the dream, you can do so by drinking coffee within it.
Of course you can. Just replace coffee with DMT. That's exactly how it works.
Btw, self-inquiry is just coffee.
Ralston acts like his retreats are not coffee but DMT is. But both are. There is no fundamental difference between attending a Ralston retreat vs smoking DMT. Only the DMT is more direct and powerful.
If Ralston's students had access to DMT Ralston would be out of a job.
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Not him. He is a lost cause. You!
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2 minutes ago, Salvijus said:The other side has no real counter arguments apart of calling him wrong blatantly over and over
The counter-argument is to smoke DMT.
There is no argument here.
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Ask him when he will smoke salvia with Leo.
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3 hours ago, VioleGrace said:You mean infinite intelligence ?
That is something that i can't understand yetNo, just intelligence in general.
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1 hour ago, cetus said:What would Timothy Leary be doing today? Would he be teaching enlightenment to the masses or just another 60's has been? Seems history answered that one. So where did the hippies go wrong? What was the downfall of that psychedelic era?
Hippies were not doing serious epistemic or ontological work, they were just chasing spiritual group-think and that is still common today. That's the whole New Age movement.
Also, some of those hippies did go into serious spiritual work, so it didn't fail. Very few people are serious about anything.
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37 minutes ago, cetus said:Where are all the enlightened hippies?"
Peter Ralston
Lolz
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@Schahin That is not a doorknob, that is a human/God dreaming it is a doorknob.
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3 minutes ago, bazera said:but I don't understand how a guy like him can miss such things
Ralston's greatest weakness is that he has isolated himself from everyone else. He lives in his own world and does not study or take ideas from others. His own mind/life/consciousness is very powerful but it then becomes its own island, so anything that exists outside that island is like it doesn't even exist. He does not listen to anyone but himself and that leads to blindness. He is too dismissive of the spiritual experiences of others, acting like they have nothing to contribute. He is not willing to learn from others.
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5 minutes ago, bazera said:According to you, where do you think he is wrong exactly? I know two points that you've mentioned so far, those were Love and psychedelics.
Any others?
Those two for sure. He is also wrong about yoga. He thinks that Kriya yoga cannot produce enlightenment/Awakening. He also believes meditation cannot produce enlightenment.
He's also wrong about the role genetics play in consciousness. Consciousness is genetic.

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