Leo Gura

@Joseph Maynor The paradox is fully there. Then again, paradox does not really exist. Paradox only exists within the realm of mind, when mind tries to articulate infinity. If you just sit and look at reality as it is without thought, there is no paradox. So the paradox is that there is no paradox, until you start to think about it "=" has nothing to do with math. It's a way of saying two things are one. For example, I could say: you = me. That's not math. It's a nondual truth. I could say: I = God God = Love God = Intelligence God = Nothingness God = Infinity Ego = devil Fear = illusion Nonduality = Oneness Infinity = Zero Truth = Love Form = Formlessness God = Creation Etc. And these are all highly worthwhile realizations to have. You are not going to realize all these identities in one shot. This is why having multiple awakenings is so important. The above is actually a very elegant way of communicating the highest truths. In fact, I'll be doing a whole episode about these "equations". My formulations are just one way of expressing/communicating Truth. There are many other ways. Each way will be partial and emphasize different aspects of Truth/God. If you want the full Truth, then you must go beyond the words. The point here is: never take my words too literally. Always leave some leeway. Read between the lines. Grok the intention behind the communication.

Has been for the last 3 years since China's ban Oxalate is the new way.

What you must realize is this: Something = Nothing Infinity = Zero Form = Formlessness Illusion = Reality This is one of the deepest awakenings you can have. You will not understand this logically. Only at the moment of awakening. Asking if God cannot be without form assumes that form and formless are two, but they are in fact one. God is simultaneously without form (the Godhead) and all form which has ever occurred anywhere. It is both! It is ALL! The ultimate realization of nonduality is the unification of form and formlessness, so you see them as one. In this way, the everyday material world becomes nothing, like a divine hologram. Your body starts to feel light, like it is a ghost, like you are etherial. Etherial = ether = 5th element = nothingness = consciousness = love = God Ta-da!

This retreat was at least 10 times more profound and powerful for me. Maybe more. Words can't do it justice. The degrees of awakening and understanding are hard to capture in words. So to an outside observer it might all sound the same. "Leo, how many times can you say that you are God/nothingness/infinity? Haven't you said all this 2 years ago?" Yes, but the degrees of it are lost in the communication.

That distinction is somewhat moot. A Zen student strives very hard before and even after awakening. According to your logic you would say that all Zen is artificial. And by that standard all spirituality and all growth is artificial. Which is not a good view. Seeking to embody and to be more fully conscious of God is not artificial, it is a natural part of this whole awakening and self-transformation process. How else could it be? When transformation happens in you, you feel it. I am not saying that I am 100% transformed. It's not different than after any meditation retreat. You would be back, you would be somewhat transformed, but you would also still mostly be the old you. And you will have to work to embody the stuff you learned and realized during your retreat. Radical transformation does not happen over night. Realigning the mind is like realigning teeth with braces. In practice, to become fully God-realized will require some force and some contrivance. It is not going to be an effortless, purely organic process.

Isn't it interesting how much disagreement exists between people on this issue of awakening? I want you guys to notice that. How do you explain it? The very fact that this much disagreement exists -- and it exists not just on this forum but across ALL spiritual schools and teachings -- is evidence that there is far more than one degree and aspect of awakening. The Truth is Absolute and One, but there are many degrees and facets to it and very few people have accessed all the degrees and facets. Hence the disagreements. If Truth/God was one-dimensional, there would be no disagreements amongst enlightened people, but there are! Take any two deeply enlightened people and you will likely find some disagreements between them in this point. Sometimes very stark disagreement. If you disagree with what I just said, that itself is evidence of what I am saying. Be careful when dismissing other people's POV as delusion Every great spiritual teacher I have come across acknowledges that there are degrees of awakening. Zen masters acknowledge it. Not just degrees of embodiment. Degrees of awakening.

As God, you would realize your penis is Perfect and Good however it is. The desire for a bigger penis is devilry and lack of self-acceptance. EVERYTHING is as it should be! You only need to purify yourself enough to see the truth of this. Notice how you create your own hell by wanting a bigger penis. See? You are in heaven but you create a hell out of it. That is the core mistake of humans.

@Girzo That is yet to be determined. But that might be a wise move.

It all exists as nothingness/emptiness. It exists sort of like a hologram in Star Wars. Here it is, but its substance is nothing. What I was describing was how the infinite hologram works. The illusion does exist. Otherwise you wouldn't see, hear, or feel anything. Form exists. It's just that form and formlessness are one. And form is always changing from the human POV while formlessness does not change.

Hmmm... so it sounds like the main issue is that it doesn't dissolve as well. That's somewhat of a shame. HCl dissolves within seconds very easily, just like table salt or sugar would. That might affect the plugging method. Although I would think it should still work. The plugging method requires that your bowls be empty. Very important. And you want to plug it not too deep, but also not too shallow. It takes some practice but I perfected my technique such that it works consistently almost every time. 20mg of HCl is enough for a breakthrough for me. Although that will be too little for most people. I have seen people take 20mg of HCl without anything close to a breakthrough like I get on exactly the same dose and substance. So individual variablity is a real issue. Anyhow, thanks for sharing. I wonder if there is an easy method of converting Oxalate to HCl?

@oMarcos It's just like a first person shooter video game. God is playing a human. Of course God's true form is nothing. So a human is occurring within nothingness, nowhere, nowhen, nohow.

I haven't found it any harder than integrating insights from a 10 day Vipassana retreat. Integration is core to all spiritual practice. Do not assume you will just awaken and become an angel without a TON of integration work. There is more work in integration than there is in having the awakening. Try doing 30 days of Vipassana and then go spend a week living with your mother and see how that goes. See if you can keep your Vipassana insights while living with your mother. It's easy to keep your Vipassana insights when you meditate for 8 hours a day in a cave non-stop while someone else prepares your food for you. It's much harder when you have to run a business, raise a family, attract a mate, cook your own food, do your own taxes, etc.

@Arhattobe The psychedelic is a transformative tool. You are judging is improperly when you judged it like so: If it fully enlightens me in one go, then it's good. If it doesn't, then it's bad and useless. If you're gonna use that criterion, then you should apply it equally to meditation. Like so: if I sit down and meditate for 30 minutes and it fully enlightens me, then I will do it and it's good. But if doesn't, then it's bad and I'm never going to meditate again. How many meditation sits does it take to become stably awakened? 1000? 5000? 10,000? Now apply those numbers to psychedelics. So your comparison is fair. What would happen if you did 1000 trips? Would you become stably awake? If so, you'd beat mediation by 10x. Why do I have a deeper understanding of metaphysical reality than Shinzen Young, who has 40 years of professional practice while I have less than 5 years of amateur practice? How do you explain that? There's some facts and statistics for ya. You see, there's more to this than just awakening. You must look at psychedelics as a holistic tool for self-awareness, personal development, and mental health.

It's hard to say. You can only know by doing both and seeing which one gets you higher. 5-MeO is gonna be hard to beat. You could only beat it if you devoted your entire life to full-time practice. You basically would have no life but meditation. The real answer is to do both. They complement each other perfectly. Nothing I realize on 5-MeO-DMT really contradicts what the most advanced yogis say. The alignment is uncanny. If 5-MeO somehow revealed truths which were the opposite of what the most advanced yogis say, then we would have a serious problem, as you would not know which to trust. But if they are 90% aligned, then there's no problem.

Of course, that's exactly what it takes, decades of industrial-grade practice which virtually no one is ready to do. You have to understand that most people are not full-time yogis. So what good is it to tell people: become a full-time yogi, otherwise you will not understand anything I teach? What we need are efficient ways of communicating these powerful insights. 10 to 20 years of practice is not within the realm of reality for most people. So we need something more effective. Someone who is going to do these practices hardcore for 20 years is already fully-bought in. You are preaching to the choir when teaching him. The real issue is, how do you teach to new people? People who are not part of the choir. That's where psychedelics come in. And also don't forget, there are many Zen masters and teachers who still have never accessed levels of consciousness as high as 5-MeO-DMT can deliver within 15 minutes. So 20 years of practice is no guarantee whatsoever that you will beat out 5-MeO-DMT. Can someone like Sadhguru beat out 5-MeO? Probably, but that's totally irrelevant because that helps no one. That is like saying that Arnold can lift 500 pounds. Yes, he can, but your sister can't. She needs to use a forklift. The point of technology is to make things which almost no one can do accessible to everyone easily. Could you imagine how backwards it would be if everyone had to be computer programmer in order to use a computer or smart phone? Or a pilot in order to use an airplane? Think about it. Think about how backwards it is that a person must spend 20 years of his life chasing an enlightenment experience.

@Principium Nexus Well, if you want to be precise, tranquility underlies everything, emptiness underlies every emotion. So it's not about not being excited, it's about realizing that excitement is happening within the emptiness that is your true nature. Trying to achieve some monotone state is not the goal, nor will you ever succeed in that. You can have emotional ups and downs while being conscious and detached from them. Emotional range is good and healthy. Don't try to be monotone. Laugh & cry.

@Sleyker If you can watch the samples, you can watch the full course.

Sounds like Alfred Korzybski. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski Manhood of Humanity

Sure sounds like it the inexperienced.

@Jcent Keep in mind that not everyone is like you. Just because something works for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone. So stay humble with your advice. Health issues can be very complex, multi-factorial, and personal. Your fantasies about my right knee are purely your own projections. Do not stick your nose in other people's health issues as if you know them. The point of the money is to afford the medical treatments (which tend to be expensive). If @Fountainbleu didn't have a money shortage, then this situation would be much easier to handle. Not everyone can just take months off from work to heal. That is a luxury which assumes you've got money to burn through. Generally-speaking I am very against anti-depressants. But if there is no other way, then you must do what you must do to survive.

It has. The most amazing thing about reality is that it is intelligible. Nothing is arbitrary. Human logic is a tiny splinter off God's logic. It's not just patterns and survival. I'm talking about understanding the metaphysical structure of reality and why it is the way it is. There is no accident or randomness to it. It has a Logos.

Anyone try the oxalate version? How does it compare? Same potency as HCl?

@Fountainbleu It's hard to say. Are you saying that all of these social anxiety issues started after your car crash?? You didn't have them before? Brain trauma is a serious thing and requires serious treatment, not merely spiritual techniques. There are supplements and various EEG brain training methods which might help you a lot. Research neurofeedback brain training. You can also contact the Dr Amen brain clinic in California. I know they do great work when it comes to assessing and healing brain injury. Or find another similar provider. I would focus on doing whatever it takes to heal your brain injury because you are gonna have to live with it for life and it will seriously affect your earning potential. If you need to take some meds to start a biz to earn the money to heal your brain, that is a good plan if you cannot afford to heal yourself immediately. Here's a link to Dr Amen's clinic: https://www.amenclinics.com You should also do research into brain injury recovery. Many books have been written on the subject. Educate yourself on the best ways to heal.

Things are not just as they are. They are a very specific way, a very deliberate and intelligent way. Everything is intelligible. It is possible to become conscious of why every hair on your arm exists exactly as it does and not otherwise. It is possible to understand why the whole universe exists. Profound awakening required of course. This is no ordinary reason. You must penetrate the very structure of God. It has a logic to it.

@Adam M Motel room works just as well. On LSD, even a dirty bathroom will be so interesting and profound you will never be bored. You can easily spend 5 hours tripping in a bathroom and have the time of your life. The kingdom of heaven is within