Leo Gura

God is Infinite Consciousness -- that which is unlimited, one, and self-created. That's as accurate as it gets. Consciousness has infinite capacity for self-understanding. It can understand everything about itself (Total Awakeness) or it can be as dumb as a rock. And everything in between.

Probably long and intense concentration practices. Maybe Kriya yoga.

Great stuff. But it won't be enough to reach the highest Awakening.

Either psychedelics or just sitting in silence.

Yes, there is definitely such a thing as awake vs non-awake. And there are many degrees and orders of magnitude of awakeness. Like I said in my series: Understanding Duality, that's a duality. Your mind is imagining a distinction between temporary things and permanent things. In fact, all consciousness is Eternal and Absolute. Awakening transcends time since consciousness imagines time. If awakening was permanent how could anyone ever awaken? -- since they would already have been awake! God can exist in various states of self-awareness. In some states God is not self-aware at all. In other states God is mildly self-aware. And in other states God is fully self-aware. There are not just 3 or 10 of these states. There are thousands if not more. Hard to say. I've heard from reliable people that it can be very helpful. But I haven't done it. Maybe try a few more times and if you still don't feel any difference, then call it quits. It could be helpful, but the people doing it are not what I could consider Awake. You will not fully Awaken via shaktipat. But that doesn't make it bad.

Exactly! It is a simple fact that every wrong person in the history of mankind has had logic for why he was right. This being so, how can anyone trust logic?

Try telling these guys they have energy problems. They will laugh you out of the village.

You don't understand. There is no such thing as temporary or permanent. Ramaji is not Awake.

Good share! Thanks

That doesn't hold up. The US government didn't crack down on the hippies because the hippies were draining their body energy. The US government cracked down because the hippies were starting to question all of the conservative Christian norms which held American society together. I have yet to see any evidence that psychedelics drain your body or harms your energetic system. If you want to make such claims, bring the evidence. Serious claims require serious evidence. My health issues are an independent variable. I've had a thyroid disease for 10 years, before I even started Actualized.org or knew about psychedelics. I've struggled with it for a long time. And as I get older my health isn't as good as it used to be. People are far too eager to blame psychedelics for anything that goes wrong. If I broke my leg tomorrow, people would say, "See! It's those damn psychedelics! I knew it!" Because people are looking any excuse they can find to reject psychedelics. Because psychedelics are gonna nuke that ego and deep down the ego knows it. The ego-mind needs to paint psychedelics as illegitimate. Then it's safe to play its spiritual games. A Buddhist can only keep being a Buddhist if he doesn't do enough psychedelics.

@RendHeaven If you want to break the laws of physics, you have to become so conscious that you get underneath them, to the point where they are literally no longer real for you. So, for example, if you want to manifest a rock, not only would you have to imagine the rock as real for you, but you would also have to imagine that the rock is real for everyone else on Earth. That's easier said than done. And most people are not even open to such a possibility.

Well, that's just a practical problem. How can a teacher recommend them if they are illegal in most places? This would get the teacher in trouble. It doesn't scale. And this assumes the teacher has lots of experience with them, which none of them do because they have been so tightly controlled and demonized. It's a catch-22. Teachers can't recommend them unless they become more widely available. And they can't become more widely available unless teachers recommend them. Thus it is a circle of ignorance. The only way to break that circle is with visionary leadership and by challenging authority, which is dangerous.

Of course that's a huge factor. Psychedelics have the power to wake people up and melt down all socially constructed belief systems. As a result they are extremely dangerous and threatening to those in positions of power and authority. So they must be locked down and tightly controlled to maintain the illusion of society. If the US government did not crack down on the hippie psychedelic revolution of the 60's and early 70's, the people in power could not stay in power any longer. Which is why psychedelics are commonly demonized in all cultures. Christians demonized psychedelics and witchcraft because it was a threat to the authority of the corrupt church. Yogis do this too. If 5-MeO-DMT was widely available, yogis like Sadhguru would be out of business.

I think it's an important book. His work is very valuable. But it's not the end all be all. Shrooms can make you super woke too. They are challenging though because they are very visionary and twisted.

Maybe, and maybe not. Neuroplasticity ain't the same thing as 30mgs of 5-MeO-DMT in your veins. Neuroplasticity will not make you Superman. You have genetic limits. You have to understand that 5-MeO-DMT is not like any other psychedelic, and it was only discovered/synthesized in the last 50 years. So it's a cutting edge technology that no one knows about. No yogi knows about it. Maybe yoga is better than weed or datura. But it is not better than 5-MeO-DMT. Well, I don't want to be arrogant. So I hold out hope that some people are Awake. But most are not. I also don't claim to be Awake at all times. I merely claim to have accessed extraordinary levels of Awakening for short periods of time. So it's not like I'm better than anyone in any moral sense.

Maybe some people can. But you ain't gonna generate 30mgs of it. Maybe a few milligrams. And even that is dubious. There's no solid evidence that you can generate 5-MeO-DMT.

Exceptional people have naturally different neurotransmitters, giving them a "natural high". But even they have not reached the highest levels as you can reach on something like 5-MeO-DMT. There is no way a human being can naturally experience a state of consciousness as something like Salvia can produce. Just no way a sane person can do that, even with all the yoga and meditation in the world. Psychedelics and herbs have been used for over 50,000 years. It's just not advertised on CNN so you don't know about it. See my video series: Correcting The Stigma of Psychedelics. I put a lot of research into it.

Nice thread

@jj40 Just simply from a biological perspective, the only reason you're alive right now is because thousands of generations of your ancestors fought with viruses and won, creating your robust immune system. How can a creature have a robust immune system if it is never put to the test? And how can it be put to the test unless some people die? Do you want your children to be sickly weaklings? Then fight that virus! A thing cannot grow strong unless it encounters resistance. But see, if you were weak and sickly, you would complain, "Why God? Why did you make me so weak." And yet when God tries to make you strong by infecting you with a virus, you complain too. You complain in every case. That's the game you're playing. The virus is nicely showing the weaknesses of society as it is currently organized. The weakness of our political systems. So that your grandchildren could live in a stronger society with robust healthcare and economic systems. The healthcare and economic systems are not going to fix themselves without external pressure. Society evolves as a response to survival challenges. So here we are. Evolution is happening every day, through you! Your struggles are what makes evolution work. Which creates all of life.

@electroBeam It's deeply mysterious. You're not gonna science your way through it. They are imaginary, but so is physical reality. You can reach mild levels of God-consciousness without psychedelics. But not the highest levels.

Ken Wilber is not Awake. No. You confuse your trap for mine.

Absolutely not. It is Infinite Love.

This gives you an idea of how there is no self/other and how consciousness works: You are THAT! Not any one person. You are the entire field of consciousness which generates the whole show. This field is highly intelligent and completely omnipotent in its creative power. Imagine being so Awake that instead of seeing physical objects or people, you see the above AND you are aware of how you are doing that. Stare at that gif for a while and try to notice how there is no self there. Or, another way to put it is: there is only the ONE infinite Self which includes all possible finite limited selves.

Take some 5-MeO-DMT and you will see. It can't be spoken.

God's love is EVERYTHING! So whatever happens is it. If Jesus healed the blind, that is God's Love. If Jesus tortured a child, that is God's Love. Yes you are. You think reality can be otherwise than it is. This is false. It is whatever you imagine it to be.