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Leo Gura replied to Gneh Onebar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I will be demonized for it anyway. I have already bent over backwards for you guys and mostly what I get is demonized for doing so. There is no incentive for deep truthful teachings. -
Simply make a rule that if you see a really hot girl, you MUST approach no matter how cringe. The funny thing about really hot girls is that very few guys have the balls to directly approach them. One time a saw an absurdly hot girl at Qdoba eating her food alone at a little round table. So I got my food and just sat down right at her little table like I was her boyfriend and started eating my food and talking about myself. She told me she had a dick (shit test). I told her I LOVE dick (passed shit test). Eventually she asked me to take her number. No one has the balls to do that kind of thing and it comes off extremely attractive. The girl turned out to be a nude model. She got fake tits, but they weren't big enough for her liking, so she went back to get them even bigger, twice! Or, I could have been like you and never approached, eating my food alone in quiet desperation, feeling shitty about myself all day. The difference between a winner's mindset and a victim's mindset is a set of perfectly shaped tits in your hands
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The need for sex will not harm his dating life. The need for sex with harm his spiritual life. Important difference
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The way to gain a mass following is either by catering to fear or love. And JP doesn't exactly exude love
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Leo Gura replied to Gneh Onebar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Whatever the technical reasons, Sadhguru almost killed himself (by his own admission) and when he went to doctors they ran tests on him and told him that he should be dead. It took him a long time to recover and heal. By any conventional standard the practices Sadhguru did would be considered suicidal. His own wife committed spiritual suicide for fuck's sake. @electroBeam What are you even arguing about?? You are completely skirting the point. I am merely re-stating what Sadhguru himself has said publicly. If you dispute these claims, take it up with him. -
Leo Gura replied to ConsciousOwl10's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Welcome Sorry to break it to ya, but Truth is totally meaningless. The ego-mind will absolutely HATE, HATE, HATE this. To discover God, all meaning must be stripped away. If you can't motivate yourself to sustain the practices you will never awaken. So choose what you want. No one will do it for you. And no one will hold your hand to realize God. Of course there's no point Do it simply because you want to know what God is. God cannot have a point. Of course. You have to understand that ego-mind will employ ever trick at its disposal to get you to not awaken. You must beat your own mind in this game by not letting it stop you. This work requires a serious, burning desire to know the truth. Without that you'll not get far. 3 suggestions: 1) Build a rock solid confidence that if you continue doing this work diligently one day you'll realize the Truth. I have been doing this work seriously for about 6 years now and it has never even crossed my mind that I will fail. Because I care about Truth too much to even entertain such a possibility. Don't allow failure to be an option. 2) Don't listen to your mind when it tries to stop you. Practice a bit each day. I spent many years of just doing 30 minutes or 60 minutes of daily meditation practice while going about my business life. You can easily make 30-60 mins a day of looking at your hand. This work is a slow burn. You must pace yourself for a decade of practice. It will pay off, but not immediately. 3) Try to enjoy it. Enjoy just sitting and being conscious. Enjoy meditation. Enjoy looking at your hand. Life does not get any better than sitting and looking at your hand. Spiritual work is not about getting somewhere. It's about enjoy the present moment more and more. The only place you're trying to get to with spiritual work is RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS. IS. IT. -
Leo Gura replied to BlackMaze's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Start a business that offers people $10 million in value, and then maybe they'll give you $1 million in return. -
Leo Gura replied to Gneh Onebar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude, you have no clue what hell and ungrounded states people like Tolle, Sadhguru, or Mooji went through in their awakening process. If any of these people live-streamed their entire spiritual journey, you would think of them as insane lunatics. With these old-ass gurus you're only seeing the end result of a 30 or 40 year process. Connor is showing you a bit of the actual process for a young, arrogant, materialistic guy like himself. Did you know that Peter Ralston used to jump off a rooftop and make his students catch him, otherwise he would kill himself if they did not? Did you know that Sadhguru handled pounds of raw mercury in the building of his temple in India which probably gave him terrible mercury poisoning that almost killed him? Did you know that Tolle was suicidally depressed and on the verge of killing himself? Did you know that Shinzen Young was a hardcore drug addict? Imagine THAT live-streamed. Exactly. It's beyond foolish to judge another's spiritual journey in the way that Adeptus does. -
Leo Gura replied to Gneh Onebar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Interesting framing. So if I supported Connor Murphy, I would be a monster enabling a false god. And if I say that he's going down the road of Zen devilry, then it is "strange" and I'm also to blame for creating him. Even though I have an entire video explaining the dangers of Zen devilry. Heads I win, tails you lose. My teachings are not an ideology and being God is not an ideology. I have no idea what Connor Murphy is doing and I have never endorsed whatever he's doing. Until a few weeks ago, I had no idea he even watches me. And just cause he watches a few of my videos means nor says nothing. You have no idea who else he might be following, what books he might be reading, etc. It's also not a good idea to judge Connor's psychological state too much. He's clearly going through a spiritual process, which he is recording live, so of course it will not look stable or "proper" the way that people expect. Keep in mind, if Eckhart Tolle live-streamed his awakening as it happened, everyone would be saying that Tolle has lost his mind and needs professional help. There's no reason why Connor cannot stabilize and become a solid teacher some years down the road once he gets some of the Zen devilry out of his system. Nobody is born as a solid spiritual master. You become a master by going through decades of trail and error and spiritual mistakes. Judging Connor's process is not very wise. Let the man go through whatever he needs to go through. Connor is recording the actual process of waking up. It's a brutal process. I experience similar pushback from people when I release raw, unedited videos of my process. Any deviation from propriety is ridiculed and judged. People expect you to be like Eckhart Tolle or Sadhguru, all happy and calm. Which is a joke. Which is why I have no interest any more in releasing raw, honest footage of my own process. People will just ridicule it and not understand. People don't want raw honesty, they want fake spiritual perfection. As far as the theatrics, gimmickry, and business schemes that Connor engages in -- none of that aligns with my teachings. Also, I should say, this Adeptus guy is strawmanning the shit out of my spiritual realizations. I have never claimed to be any kind of messiah nor have I ever claimed that I can heal all of mankind through miracles. His portrayal of my insights is basically slander. Everything I said in my spiritual videos is still true: I am God (but so are you) I have been more conscious than most spiritual teachers or gurus Psychic abilities are real Healing is real and possible, although of course it is not a power the ego controls and it will not magically heal the whole world. When I spoke about these powers I clearly said this is still something I'm exploring and struggling to develop. These claims are not so crazy. Any serious spiritual practitioner understands that claims #1, #3, and #4 are obviously correct. They might dispute claim #2, but, oh well, that's just a common spiritual dispute that every spiritual person has at some point. I have not backtracked on any "psychic superpower nonsense" because siddhis are not nonsense -- they are a well-known aspect of spiritual work which has existed among serious spiritual practitioners since the dawn of time. What's nonsense is Adeptus' absurd strawmanning of a guy who mentions siddhis. That is coming from a place of arrogance, ignorance, and closedmindedness. I have in fact NEVER claimed to have supernatural powers. But I know people who do and I know they can be developed by certain people (not even necessarily me). My work and teachings have NEVER been about supernatural powers or showing off in the manner of Connor Murphy. Adeptus misunderstand what happened with me. It's not that I backed off of anything I said. It's simply that when I said those things I discovered states of consciousness that virtually no human has ever accessed and I said things in a raw fashion as part of showing people the raw work that I was in the middle of doing. But when I show raw work like that, people now expect me to be unhinged forever, but of course, in fact I'm very well grounded and they are shocked when they see me come back the next week or month and record very grounded videos, taking this to mean that I'm contradicting myself when in fact I've just integrated the raw realizations from before -- as you're supposed to do. The thing to understand is this: When I show a video of a raw awakening or a post-retreat debrief, I'm not in a fully grounded state (of course), and this is shown to the viewer specifically to give you a taste of what this work feels like because otherwise the viewer gets the false impression that this work is always grounded and that I am some stoic, emotionless, autistic robot. Out of 300+ of my grounded videos, Adeptus cherrypicks 2 raw live awakening videos and a pre-retreat and post-retreat video that came after an intense 30 straight days of 5-MeO-DMT, to demonize my entire teaching and build his biased narrative. Watch the other 300+ videos for context. And if you dare, let's see how your first video will look after 30 straight days of 5-MeO-DMT breakthroughs. I'll bet you'll be a bit emotional and glowing with insight. I sacrificed myself for the sake of psychedelic science and this is the shit I get from my fellow psychonaut? Not only do I get shit from non-psychonauts about this non-stop, now I have to deal with shit from psychonauts too? Adeptus, if you read this, please stop with your whiteknight routine. I know you mean well, but you're getting carried away with your good-guy act and you are unwittingly slandering my work. My work is more grounded than your rants, so please spare me the outrage. Connor Murphy is his own man and I am not responsible for whatever zany shit he decides to do. I will however email Connor and try to have a talk with him about the dangers of presenting these ideas to the public so that awakening, psychedelics, and "I am God" are not mis-perceived by the public. I very much care about that. Whether he will even listen to me is questionable. I am not his daddy and to frame me that way is irresponsible in and of itself. This guy is a total stranger to me. He's not any kind of formal student of mine. What you're doing is akin to someone watching your YouTube videos about psychedelics, taking a massive dose of 1000ug LSD, jumping out the window, killing himself, and then people blaming you for it because, hey, Adeptus told him that psychedelics are good, despite all the warnings you issued. That's exactly what you're doing to me in the name of playing a whiteknight with your moral outrage. Excuse me, but who died and made you the Pope of psychedelics? Just because someone has a different process than you with psychedelics that you disagree with does not make you right nor does it give you the moral high ground to judge them for it. You don't like me enjoying 5-MeO-DMT in a bathtub? You think that's dangerous? Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. You have no clue of my actual situation when I did that. Psychedelics are dangerous. Spiritual work is dangerous. I've always said that. In the hands of a fool psychedelics and/or spiritual work can get you killed. But the Truth is the Truth regardless. The Truth is, psychedelics can show you that you are God. And it doesn't matter how many people get killed, the Truth will always remain the Truth. Also: Connor Murphy was NOT banned from the forum. Some of his posts were so self-promotional (promoting donations to his Patreon account) that our good Mods were right to moderate some of it. He is still free to post here and he has not contacted me personally for advice. If he did, I would gladly offer it. But I would never presume to go around telling another teacher or YouTuber how to run his business. I didn't give Connor advice because I didn't feel he would be receptive to it. All of the above is so obvious that I hardly feel it needs to be stated. I have never felt a need to state it until now, but now I'm forced to state it because clearly people like Adeptus got some really wrong ideas about my teachings and how spiritual development works and now I feel I have to publicly correct this slander and strawmanning. It's bad enough that my work is slandered by all sorts of ignorant noobs, materialists, and religious fundamentalists -- I expect that -- but when my work is slandered by a fellow psychonaut who should have a deep understanding of the trickeries of this work -- that leaves me disappointed. Since day one of my teachings I have always spoken out about the dangers and traps of psychedelics, spiritual work, ideology, cults, and self-deception. I have always steered people away from irresponsible use of psychedelics and Zen devilry. The bottom line is this: give a man some room to spiritually develop without breathing down his neck and telling him everything he's doing wrong. That is, if you're truly compassionate and care about his development. But if you want to create sensational YouTube rant videos, I guess that's another matter. But if you care about truth, be careful how your mind constructs convenient narratives to explain away stuff like what's going on with Connor Murphy. The bottom line is that you have no idea what he's going through and what the right process is for him. If you, Adeptus, ever want to correct the record, I'm more than happy to explain all this publicly with you. My work is grounded and it will always remain grounded and I will always condemn teachings and teachers which are ungrounded. But of course, there truly is no ground -
As annoying as JP is, he should be allowed publish his book. Just cause an employee does not like JP's ideas does not mean they get to cancel his book. It's not like JP is Hitler. His political ideas are pretty much standard conservative dogma.
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Leo Gura replied to levani's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Meditation is a spiritual purification process. As you do it rigorously for years, the evil within you will slowly get purified. This process takes a lot of time. Fear being imaginary is the ultimate culmination of the spiritual purification process. It will take you a lot of work to reach that point. And to reach that point you'll be forced to confront your deepest fears, including the fear of death, insanity, torture, and whatever supernatural forces you fear. If you fear demons then you must face that fear and realize it is an illusion -- not the demons, but your fear of them. -
@BornToBoil Dating has nothing to do with truth. Get your head out of your ass.
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We have quality standards here. Don't post your rambling nonsense.
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Leo Gura replied to Username's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Lay down the pipe and do some manual spiritual work. But how??? Figure it out! -
Gender reveals are dumb, but not for that reason, Lol.
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Lol Oh the excuses the mind will concoct just to not approach a girl. IF you were great at being authentic around hot girls and approaching them consistently without fear, you would already be a master of pickup. But you ain't. Your game sucks balls, hence the existence of pickup. Med student: What if the only reason I'm going to med school is because I'm afraid I will kill someone with my lack of medical experience? If I was absolutely secure and confident in my ability to heal people, would I even be going to med school? Probably not. P.S. You also have a bunch of wrong ideas about what pickup is. It's not about tricking girls into sleeping with you.
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Glad to see someone getting some use out of this place. Sometimes I wonder if I should just shut this thing down.
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Sorry, it's impossible to stay neutral when the cringe is this good.
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They simply have no idea how to approach nor how to close. Cold approach has an extremely steep learning curve. A guy indoctrinated with Incel/Black Pill ideology will have such horrible inner game that of course no woman will get attracted to him. He might as well rub a skunk on his face. That's what Incel ideology does to a man's attractiveness. And his outer game will suck just as much. You might as well be talking to Nazis. They are less brainwashed than these Black Pill guys. The fact that you take these ideologies seriously is already the problem.
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@Keyhole What happened to you not reading these threads? Can't resist punching yourself in the gut?
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It's just victim mentality, scapegoating, projection, denial, and all the other classic ego defense mechanisms that the ego employs when it is scared, hurt, and denied love. What's changed is that thanks to the internet and video games, lots of men have stopped socializing face-to-face, which makes getting laid impossible. An Incel is just a guy who doesn't socialize.
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Leo Gura replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Karma is for children. A real man only sees Love -
Leo Gura replied to Antor8188's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ego is not a thought or a group of thoughts. Ego is a state of consciousness. You can have an egoless state of consciousness with plenty of thoughts arising. Or you can have an egoic state of consciousness with no thoughts arising. -
OMG, more delicious Boomer cringe! Thank you John Voight, for entertaining future generations of humans with your comedy routine. You have rendered your country a great comedic service.
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That's actually more for a Turquoise scene. Good stuff. No simple-minded materialism. Whoever designed that scenes was smoking some psychedelics.