Leo Gura

"Becoming a madman" is just a fear you have that keeps you from realizing you're God.

They all worked. That's like saying, if you had 130 orgasms, the first 129 didn't work. In the same way you count orgasms or dreams. There are many degrees of awakening and consciousness. Consciousness can expand or contract without any limitations. How do you think you got unwoke in the first place? If consciousness could not contract, you could not awaken because you'd already be woke and spirituality would not exist since you would be fully conscious that you're God at all times. You also could not be human. You can only be ignorant of things because your consciousness is contracted. Uncontracted consciousness is absolutely omniscient. If you are not aware of how you created every hair on your ass, your consciousness must be contracted. Since you create everything. Do you honestly think that God does not know how it created the hairs on your ass? If no, you're underestimating God. If yes, then you've separated yourself from God. If you are not omniscient you are not fully conscious. It's just that simple.

That is not possible because without addressing the confusions and defense mechanisms it will not penetrate the mind. The mind has an immune-system-like shield which instantly gets activated when any serious metaphysical issue is brought up, or any serious deconstruction is done. It may feel that way to you, but if you listen to the entire thing, I answered all his questions. It just took some time. If you ask me a question like, "What are the problems of science?" or "How important were psychedelics in your life?", there is no quick way to answer that such that a normie would get it.

Because it is impossible. Charlie would not know what questions to ask in what order to get something like one of my videos. This is why I rarely do conversations with people. The interviewer does not know the depth of what he is asking. We waste most of the time clearing up confusions and defense mechanisms. To get a conversation as substantial as one of my videos the interviewer would need have a depth of consciousness and knowledge that I have. Such people nearly do not exist. And if they do, they don't have massive YT channels or general audiences. There is a fundamental limitation in explaining these topics to a general, causal stage Orange audience. No amount of skill can overcome that limitation. The best that can be done is a bit better. But it will never be some homerun that leads to some profound awakening. Conversation is not suited to this work. Which is why I generally avoid it. If I want to explain something serious, having a person asking me question is actually an obstacle. My videos are as dense and direct as things can get short of a book. Any conversation I have will be less dense because it will meander around and devolve into an infinite chain of follow up question. Conversations are not lectures. They are just random questions. Imagine trying to learn calculus with little mathematical experience by asking random questions for 2 hours. It's impossible. It would all sound like word salad and woo-woo. I have spent more time studying these issues than you spent years learning mathematics. And you still suck at math. And I consider Charlie a good stage Yellow interviewer. Just imagine how bad it would get if I was speaking to a defensive Tier 1 person like Richard Dawkins. It would get real bad. And that's exactly as it should be, because the interviewer and his audience are playing a game of defending their constructions of reality. What is not understood by people is that a conversation is never a genuine inquiry into truth. Truth cannot be reached via conversation, ever. Because the person you are talking to does not even exist but in your own mind. If you were conscious of the truth you would not be having a conversation in the first place. Conversations are for entertainment, not truth. If you expect my podcast appearances to deliver you some epic deep understanding, you should drop that fantasy now because it won't happen. The format does not allow that. If you want some deep understanding of anything I talk about you'll need 10 hrs minimum. Just to understand Spiral Dynamics takes at least 20 hours of study. And that's way easier to understand than something like science or God.

My only frustration is not enough time. I enjoyed the conversation. These kind of conversations are very easy for me. The problem is dumbing it down to a level the audience can follow. Dumbing it down in the right way takes a lot of skill and I still need to get better at that.

The problem is that the questions Charlie asked were so deep it would require a 5 hr conversation. Something like deconstructing science just cannot be done in 60 minutes because there are too many defense mechanisms to address. Deconstructing science would take at least 5 hrs. And we talked about a lot more topics than that. Each topic Charlie asked about is a 5 hr conversation. This is the difficulty of talking about this stuff in a casual way to a general audience who has zero foundation in metaphysics or epistemology. It is like trying to explain calculus to an audience who never even learned arithmetic. Charlie's audience is gonna be very stage Orange so they will be extremely skeptical of anyone who questions science. That is a huge red flag in their mind. Because if science can be deconstructed their whole reality collapses and that is totally unacceptable. Which is why my videos are so long.

It's a great trolling of the conservatives.

Have 130 awakenings and then maybe you'll understand.

@TEHUTI Godspeed, touchy one. You've made 9 posts and already found something to quit over.

You don't understand. All of that is imaginary. I became Infinitely Conscious. Which means I become absolutely conscious of everything. That's what it means to be God. If you are not conscious how you designed the whole universe, you aren't really awake. What I am talking about is beyond anything your mind can fathom and beyond anything any spiritual teaching has told you. My idea of what's going on is 100% Absolute. I am trying to guide you to that, most of you refuse to listen.

No idea. Took me a couple decades.

You cannot turn Goodness into an algorithm. People cannot be good by following your rules. Almost never. Sounds like your mental stability is lacking. In which case dail back the psychedelics. Psychedelics require very solid mental stability or they become dangerous. 3 to 4 years.

I've had many different kinds and degrees of awakening using different methods. 5-MeO-DMT certainly helps. But even that by itself is not enough. It took me over 130 awakenings to reach what I would call complete God-realization. Once you reach this point it's very easy to see who is not God-realized. Most spiritual teachers are not God-realized. This especially includes all the Buddhists, neo-Advaitans, every meditation teacher, and every New Ager. None of it is deep enough. Not even in the same ballpark.

I became totally omniscient. I became completely conscious of how I create reality. This is not anything the human mind can comprehend or reason about. And it is beyond anything possible to achieve with meditation, Buddhism, self-inquiry, or anything like that. Even nonduality is not omniscience. It is way less.

@EntheogenTruthSeeker See my video: How To Discover What Is True You need to get serious about epistemology and stop believing anyone. Don't believe me either. Seeking truth is not a matter of belief. And you will NEVER get truth from human words. The problem is that you want to get to the truth through words, whether the Bible or mine. And none of that will work. If you want to reach truth, you must question everything until your mind collapses.

@EntheogenTruthSeeker Do not use my words to debate idiots by proxy. When you do that, I have no desire to communicate with you.

A real stretch to put PUA material in this sub-forum.

This work is not a matter of belief. Deconstruct your mind, if you dare. Or... keep playing patty-cakes with your imaginary Christian friends.

Getting lost in delusion and falsehood is not scenery. It is not a matter of enjoyment. As a Christian you are deluded as fuck and suffer greatly for it. Show me one God-realized Christian. I've yet to see one.

Of course there are. But why use inferior tools? Trying to access God-realization via the Bible is like traveling from Los Angeles to New York on skis in the middle of summer.

You are God. You created all of reality. If you open the dictionary and look up the word "fool", you will find a picture of your Christian friends. You don't need to read the Bible. You are God. You imagined every book in the Universe.

You got a real flaw in your understanding of Orange if you think it has to disrespect women.

He's good at narrating his chains of logic.

@EntheogenTruthSeeker You imagined me to keep yourself asleep or help yourself awaken. It is a game you are playing with yourself. I am a pawn in your game. If you play the game carefully you can use this pawn to awaken. If you play carelessly this pawn will draw you even deeper into the illusion.

I don't want to get into such comparisons. It would not be good if people treated me like Jesus. What matters is realizing that you are God. Working with mental illness is not something I'm good at or interested in. It's just not aligned with my area of expertise nor my personal experience. But I think that can be a great LP idea for guys like you two. You don't need me to do it.