How to master energies to be in non dual state all the time?

[LfcCharlie4]

You are it 

This is it

Eating the apple is it. 

Maybe you're after an exotic experience? 

 

For me, transmissions was required 

 

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

You are it 

This is it

Eating the apple is it. 

Maybe you're after an exotic experience? 

 

For me, transmissions was required 

 

No, I'm after stop suffering

Oneness or love is not an exotic state, is a state outside the mind.

This is not about morality, is about you being Consciousness and being able to step outside the mind when you are not using it.

You have a hand. You can use this hand to pick up a glass of water and then you can put it down when you want when you are done drinking.

If suddenly you can't stop picking up the glass constantly, we would say you have a problem, isn't it?

In the same way humans can not drop the mind. This is sickness.

And the fact that people defend the sickness and see any intent to get out of the sickness as "hedonistic chasing states" or something like that, is really sad, and makes me think most people are not serious about freedom.

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

This is not about morality, is about you being Consciousness and being able to step outside the mind when you are not using it.

Thats my goal too, it's difficult, the inertia is great. Lately it has been working for me to do 25-minute sitting still meditation sets distributed throughout the day, starting in the morning. The more the better, and if there is no time at least 10 or 15 minutes, and some afternoons and evenings several hours with a little lsd or weed

[SeaMonster]

4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

This is not about morality, is about you being Consciousness and being able to step outside the mind when you are not using it.

Any number of things can cause compulsive thinking, even in an enlightened state.  You could be tired or hungry or there could be some other bodily discomfort.  Meditation isn't a panacea when other deficits or excesses are in play.

Here are some tips:

1) Get a good night's sleep

2) Less screen time

3) More physical exercise

4) Healthy diet

5) Hydrate

6) Quit porn (and cut down on masturbation.)

 

 

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, SeaMonster said:

Any number of things can cause compulsive thinking, even in an enlightened state.  You could be tired or hungry or there could be some other bodily discomfort. 

 

No, you can have your body tired or hungry and not produce discomfort.

Discomfort happens in the mind, pain is inevitable because is an information of the body, but suffering is of the mind. 

[SeaMonster]

35 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

No, you can have your body tired or hungry and not produce discomfort.

Discomfort happens in the mind, pain is inevitable because is an information of the body, but suffering is of the mind. 

This is what is known as mind-body dualism, an ancient philosophical belief with no basis in reality.

Secondly, discomfort isn't something you can control or necessarily even be aware of at the conscious level.  You're not thinking "boy, am I suffering!" No, you just experience negative emotions.

Show me one of your gurus who hasn't demonstrated negative emotions. Please.  They all did constantly.

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by SeaMonster

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, SeaMonster said:

This is what is known as mind-body dualism, an ancient philosophical belief with no basis in reality.

Secondly, discomfort isn't something you can control or necessarily even be aware of at the conscious level.  You're not thinking "boy, am I suffering!" No, you just experience negative emotions.

Show me one of your gurus who hasn't demonstrated negative emotions. Please.  They all did constantly.

 

Emotions are more complex stuff. I´m talking about basic body sensations. Obviously you can have body sensations that can be registered as pain or negative, but that doesn't mean you will suffer them.

If there is distance of awareness between You and thoughts, and You and Body, then whatever happens in body doesn't change your stability. You can register the information of your knee hurting, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean that you have to start making yourself suffering. 

This is not a belief system. 

I´ll give you a personal example, As someone who has gone through opiate withdrawal for countless of times, this is the perfect example of how physical suffering resides in the mind. After going it through so many times, I have verified that body discomfort does not necessarily have to mean mental suffering. You can just accept the body sensations or physical uncomfort/aching/pain, and suddenly is just that: sensations.

The moment the mind starts to contextualise and create a 'story' about those sensations, that's when suffering starts. And as personal experience, you can see how how much the mind creates this stories, how much harder you can make yourself the withdrawal, or how much you can't even feel it, as I said: Body sensations (which includes 'pain sensations') is just information of the body for you. Is only when you see them as bad, dangerous, fear (innate fear about your body being in danger), etc... when suffering starts. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Javfly33