Vegan meat is a scam.

[Intraplanetary]

On 13/03/2023 at 7:40 AM, Michael569 said:

• plant-based meats are not poisonous - in fact we have a few preliminary RCTs (look up Christopher Gardner's studies) that show compared to beef they help reduce cholesterol and triglycerides as early as in 4 weeks 
• vegetable oils are not poison either, they don't cause cancer or heart disease or none of that - this is a a low-carb nonsense once again based on mechanistic speculation. Compared to high saturate fats like beef fat, tallow and butter they are highly beneficial in the human outcome data - let's stop spreading nonsense

never believe in mainstream studies on food and nutrition. It's all lobbied and corrupted. 

[Intraplanetary]

 

[Schizophonia]

On 09/04/2023 at 1:27 PM, Eyowey said:

Cooking in general is a scam. The only thing of value that you're eating with cooking is your free time. Raw foods are cheaper and healthier.

why ?

[Schizophonia]

@Michael569 looking back I think my response was too aggressive, mea culpa

[Bobby_2021]

4 hours ago, Michael569 said:

Not everyone out there is trying to get you and scam you of your money

No one is intentionally crafting plans with the sole purpose of making you sick. But they do have a solid intention to make money, and that happens to come at the cost of your health most of the time.

The more people are worried about such things the more pressure on governments to enforce tighter regulations on big corporations.

You can check the example of the quality of coca cola in France and India. Coca cola has to abide by tighter health standards in France and make lesser sugar and other toxic ingredients while in India they don't care as much. It's mainly because people in India are not as diet conscious as they are in France. 

[Intraplanetary]

2 hours ago, Michael569 said:

@Schizophonia no you're good.

I liked your response but I never got around to reply properly and didn't want to half -arse it. I appreciate reasonable feedback but what I really hate are the types of responses i was commenting on (e.g. " all science is corrupted" "nothing can be trusted" ) 

noway mainstream science can be trusted. all full of shit. 

[Intraplanetary]

On 13/03/2023 at 7:40 AM, Michael569 said:

• beef has consistently been associated with an increased rate of cardiovascular events, increased risk of stroke, coronary heart disease, breast cancer, liver cancer and bowel cancer. 
• while plant meats are not perfect, they are processed food and can lead to overconsumption, they are absolutely better than consuming beef the way most people do. When calories are accounted for they are much much better and safer option. 

mainstream propaganda

[zurew]

2 hours ago, Intraplanetary said:

noway mainstream science can be trusted. all full of shit. 

So what is your way of knowing? Watching random youtube videos that are agreeing with you?

 

[Intraplanetary]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

So what is your way of knowing? Watching random youtube videos that are agreeing with you?

 

My way of eating is as close to nature as possible. Meaning grass-fed regenerative meat, raw dairy and local seasonal fruits. No brainer. All that stupid nutritional propaganda that is going on now is scary AF. People are sick and ideological and believing in all that mainstream shit when the only right things is to look back at our ancestors, remember where we are coming from and re-align with nature.

Here, some eye opener for all ya heart-bleeding vegans. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deep-Nutrition-Your-Genes-Traditional-ebook/dp/B01G1J7WEU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=deep+nutrition&sr=8-1

And btw, eating commercial meat is way better than poisoning yourself with that meatless whatever. If you against commercial meat cause of factory farming and can't afford regenerative meat, do yourself a favour and don't try to look for meat alternatives cause you hopeless want that meat so much anyway  it's better just stick with your legumes and veggies.

I'm not against anyone being a vegan, I'm against loosing our minds to greedy food corporations that completely and utterly corrupted mainstream nutrition science, and loosing touch with nature.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Intraplanetary

[zurew]

Leo has to do a crash course on epistemology, because a lot of people on this forum has a really poor understanding of it and usage of it.

34 minutes ago, Intraplanetary said:

when the only right things is to look back at our ancestors, remember where we are coming from and re-align with nature.

Do you think our ancestors lived longer than us nowadays?

41 minutes ago, Intraplanetary said:

I'm against loosing our minds to greedy food corporations that completely and utterly corrupted mainstream nutrition science, and loosing touch with nature.

Since when nutrition science is limited to food corporations?

[Bobby_2021]

Someone asked for proof for claiming vegetable oils being harmful to health.

Here is one such study.

"In conclusion, our findings suggest that the use of lard/other animal fat oils as cooking oil is more beneficial to cardiovascular health than vegetable/ginger oil in most Chinese aged over 65 years."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0146280622003826