Looking for guidance from myself

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, OnePointTwo said:

"nobody else is real"?

"You" aren't real.

[axiom]

1 hour ago, OnePointTwo said:

But what is the reasoning behind the...

Reasoning is the experience of separation.

[OnePointTwo]

27 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

"You" aren't real.

Ok, I'm a bit out of my depth. Can you please deconstruct what Godishere said? "this person is about to tell me they are imaginary". I want to understand where that is coming from.

17 minutes ago, axiom said:

Reasoning is the experience of separation.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by experience of separation.

[Carl-Richard]

12 minutes ago, OnePointTwo said:

Ok, I'm a bit out of my depth. Can you please deconstruct what Godishere said? "this person is about to tell me they are imaginary". I want to understand where that is coming from.

He is trying to communicate a feeling that when he looks at other people, the feeling of them having a "personhood" is weakening, which is a direct result of his own feeling of personhood also weakening. "Other" is always constructed together with a "self", and saying that "other people are imaginary" or "I'm imaginary" are just different ways of communicating the same thing: that the duality of self & other is collapsing.

[OnePointTwo]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

He is trying to communicate a feeling that when he looks at other people, the feeling of them having a "personhood" is weakening, which is a direct result of his own feeling of personhood also weakening. "Other" is always constructed together with a "self", and saying that "other people are imaginary" or "I'm imaginary" are just different ways of communicating the same thing: that the duality of self & other is collapsing.

I understand now. Thanks Carl-Richard!

[axiom]

1 hour ago, OnePointTwo said:

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by experience of separation.

The sense that you are a separate person with a life and free will, and that you’re going somewhere or achieving something.

[Carl-Richard]

I think of the final letting go as entering a black hole:

• You can't imagine what is actually on the other side.
• Whoever enters it, no information can be transferred to the outside.
• When you approach it, space and time starts collapsing.

[axiom]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

I think of the final letting go as entering a black hole:

• You can't imagine what is actually on the other side.
• Whoever enters it, no information can be transferred to the outside.
• When you approach it, space and time starts collapsing.

One thing psychedelics seem to do is dilate time. As the sense of self collapses via reduction of activity in the DMN, a single note from a piece of music can seem to last for a very long time, e.g. 10 minutes. There seem to be several anecdotal reports of this.

All a story, but interesting anyway. A fun pointer.

Enlightenment reveals time as totally illusory - there is no one left to measure it.