My dreams are about future real life events?

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

wouldnt that be the same then for the idealist? Give me something concrete. You teach this suff.  

I don't teach I share.  It is something to consider, and maybe even something funny to bring up in conversation too.  It is not a waste lol.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't teach I share.  It is something to consider, and maybe even something funny to bring up in conversation too.  It is not a waste lol.

No you teach. I have listened to you videos.  What are you taliking about?

 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No you teach. I have listened to you videos.  What are you taliking about?

 

I would say the paradox between materialism and idealism and not even too.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I would say the paradox between materialism and idealism and not even too.

There is no paradox between them Joseph stop mixing things around.  It's two disctinctive things.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

There is no paradox between them Joseph stop mixing things around.  It's two disctinctive things.

Oh yeah.  Thanks!

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Oh yeah.  Thanks!

Your so silly lol

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Your so silly lol

 

Are you concerned about the lost soul?

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Are you concerned about the lost soul?

NO but you gotta respond to my ode to Mellowmarsh, i'm just to trying at least get her to have a sense of humor.  She has NONE.  

NO fun.

Edited 19 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

NO but you gotta respond to my ode to Mellowmarsh, i'm just to at least get her to have a sense of humor.  She has NONE.  

NO fun.

I'm not sure what you are doing here honestly.  

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm not sure what you are doing here honestly.  

Just being silly.  Me and Mellow I think we go way back.  She' just so serious all the time.  But whatever let's move on.

She'll never joke around.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Just being silly.  Me and Mellow I think we go way back.  She' just so serious all the time.  But whatever let's move on.

She'll never joke around.

Everyone is joking around.  I know most of the people on here.  

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

psychotic doesn't mean you're wrong about everything. 

Kindergarteners too.

It's just in this case, they are wrong. Schizophrenia is not just a "Western" disease.

 

9 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

I don't understand your hostility. 

Was that hostile? 😱 Sounds a bit paranoid if you ask me 😛

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[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

Also that thing I said about schizophrenia being less paranoid in the east I also found with a Google search .

Link?

[Carl-Richard]

@Inliytened1 @Joseph Maynor Wtf are you two guys doing 🙂‍↕️

[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Inliytened1 @Joseph Maynor Wtf are you two guys doing 🙂‍↕️

It's a bromance.  You wouldn't understand.

Edited 12 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Oppositionless]

@Carl-Richard https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2014/07/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614
 

"The striking difference was that while many of the African and Indian subjects registered predominantly positive experiences with their voices, not one American did. Rather, the U.S. subjects were more likely to report experiences as violent and hateful – and evidence of a sick condition."

 

8 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Kindergarteners too.

It's just in this case, they are wrong. Schizophrenia is not just a "Western" disease.

 

Was that hostile? 😱 Sounds a bit paranoid if you ask me 😛

I am a bit paranoid, lol. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Oppositionless

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Oppositionless said:

@Carl-Richard https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2014/07/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614
 

"The striking difference was that while many of the African and Indian subjects registered predominantly positive experiences with their voices, not one American did. Rather, the U.S. subjects were more likely to report experiences as violent and hateful – and evidence of a sick condition."

I'm familiar with Tanya Luhrmann, or rather I one time attended as an audience member a live panel where she was one of the speakers. It was actually a discussion touching on psychic phenomena, it was one of the things that made me take it more seriously:

 

Well yes, it's interesting that the voices tended to be predominantly positive according to interviewees from African and Indian cultures but not interviewees from American culture. But of course, this doesn't go very far in supporting the wider claim of "schizophrenia is a Western disease". In non-Western schizophrenics, you still have negative voices, you still have delusions, thought disorder, "negative symptoms" (anhedonia, reduced cognitive functioning, etc.). And such people still get cast out from society for acting out of line. See Robert Sapolsky's research on this particular matter (in this case an African tribe called the Masai):

49:51

 

I think an important lesson of Luhrmann's study is that the framing of "mental illness" or "you're hurt, broken, your genes are dysfunctional, you were hurt in the past and thus you're hurt now" can be significantly hurtful, something I too agree with. I've given an in-depth run-through of this in a slightly different context:

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Inliytened1]

54 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I'm familiar with Tanya Luhrmann, or rather I one time attended as an audience member a live panel where she was one of the speakers. It was actually a discussion touching on psychic phenomena, it was one of the things that made me take it more seriously:

 

Well yes, it's interesting that the voices tended to be predominantly positive according to interviewees from African and Indian cultures but not interviewees from American culture. But of course, this doesn't go very far in supporting the wider claim of "schizophrenia is a Western disease". In non-Western schizophrenics, you still have negative voices, you still have delusions, thought disorder, "negative symptoms" (anhedonia, reduced cognitive functioning, etc.). And such people still get cast out from society for acting out of line. See Robert Sapolsky's research on this particular matter (in this case an African tribe called the Masai):

49:51

 

I think an important lesson of Luhrmann's study is that the framing of "mental illness" or "you're hurt, broken, your genes are dysfunctional, you were hurt in the past and thus you're hurt now" can be significantly hurtful, something I too agree with. I've given an in-depth run-through of this in a slightly different context:

 

I told you already.  This is a dream, with set rules. Schizophrenics see outside the rules, they are able to see outisde of the dream.  That's what it is.

Functioning here isn't the goal, it never was.

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1