Octavio Rettig Rebuttal

[traveler]

 I really like how he approached this situation. To me his intentions are pure here, I think he is trying to force his body open so energy doesn't get blocked, but wtf do I know lol. Very interesting though.

Btw if this is how a 5-meo experience looks from the outside, I don't know how you would say it is safe to do alone. 

This on the other hand is pretty fucked

Edited May 25, 2020 by traveler

[Tboy]

Honestly I completely believe his side of the story from that video but I also didn't know who he was before came onto this thread, sound understandable though

[Leo Gura]

When I went skydiving I had to sign a waiver that if my parachute fails none of my relatives are allowed to sue the skydiving company or instructors.

That was a sobering document to sign, Lol.

When I pulled that cord, I prayed to God that it would open. And I didn't believe in God back then, Lol.

Some of life's most epic experiences are inherently risky.

[legendary]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I get the sense that Octavio gives them some massive doses. It's much easier to get freaked out that way than the gradual way that we dose here.

Pretty accurate.

5 hours ago, Space said:

You mention the negatives of the group session with Octavio, any positives?

The love, caring, and non-judgemental acceptance among the retreat members is phenomenal. Octavio himself is pretty fun as a person and has handled a myriad of situations with his clients. It is highly unlikely that he won't have an idea as to what should be done in a given situation. And of course, the most significant positive is that he is making this medicine more accessible to a lot of people, including those in Europe.