Is this a workable view on free will vs predetermination?

[Jack River]

The choosing between Suicide and no Suicide seems simply reactionary. Mind has concluded upon some construction of mind and acts on that image based on the minds preference(the past). 

Its essentially all positive/negative resistance of desire. 

This desire limits itself by jumping from one contradiction to another, one condition to another, one conflict to another. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Jack River

[lmfao]

@Preetom What really matters probably isn't the verbal descriptions and arguments you give for free will. What really matters is probably just where your awareness is. I see no reason your view isn't workable, in fact I might like it. 

15 hours ago, Preetom said:

Please share your personal standing on this topic of free will vs predetermination.

Who knows if there is free will or predetermination. The way I guess I might see it is that reality is always in a situation which you did nothing to create. Even the facet of reality that is your awareness is beyond your control, it is just the way it is. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by lmfao

[Preetom]

@Arhattobe @Jack River

Remember the word 'I'. Please honestly write what that word points towards right now in your own experience.

[Preetom]

33 minutes ago, lmfao said:

The way I guess I might see it is that reality is always in a situation which you did nothing to create. 

I become totally silent everytime this hits me  

God's honest truth, I have no idea how come it is what it is and what is about to come

[Jack River]

30 minutes ago, Preetom said:

@Arhattobe @Jack River

Remember the word 'I'. Please honestly write what that word points towards right now in your own experience.

Experience implies I.  

Thats what I’m referring to. The chooser that distinguishes itself between the process of choosing and the choosing. 

 The choosing that arises out of divison. 

The little i is often still concluded upon as being the big I. This is a common trick of mind. 

Conclusion/identification in general is an indication of this. 

But anyway. I’m only talking about what is as it is apparent. Shine light on that what is. It’s up to others if they escape that what is or not. The degree that this escape comes to full stop determines a seeing of what lies beyond that of I. 

Also communication will be difficult when we are speaking of certain teachings. So with the distinction of little i, big I, this is revealed. 

Guess It all depends on how we speak about such matters. 

 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Jack River

[Preetom]

10 minutes ago, Jack River said:

Experience implies I.  

Thats what I’m referring to. The chooser that distinguishes itself between the process of choosing and the choosing. 

 The choosing that arises out of divison. 

The little i is often still concluded upon as being the big I. This is a common trick of mind. 

Conclusion/identification in general is an indication of this. 

But anyway. I’m only talking about what is as it is apparent. Shine light on that what is. It’s up to others if they escape that what is or not. The degree that this escape comes to full stop determines a seeing of what lies beyond that of I. 

Also communication will be difficult when we are speaking of certain teachings. So with the distinction of little i, big I, this is revealed. 

Guess It all depends on how we speak about such matters. 

 

So the 'I' feels located and somehow special/heavy and separate from other things?

[Jack River]

Just now, Preetom said:

So the 'I' feels located and somehow special/heavy and separate from other things?

Any I does so yes. 

[Preetom]

Just now, Jack River said:

Any I does so yes. 

but there is also a simultaneous 'seeing' that sees through that experience?

[Jack River]

3 minutes ago, Preetom said:

but there is also a simultaneous 'seeing' that sees through that experience?

As in conscious awareness? Yes. 

To attention...and perhaps even beyond(no I-no center). But that’s not for me to post about. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by Jack River