Spiral Dynamics. The 1968 Movement and Capitalists

[MM1988]

How are people who where hippies in 1968 that grew up to be ruthless capitalist business men in todays world explained by Spiral Dynamics?

The 1968 movement are THE stereotypical stage green people, but its a well known fact that many of these hippies grew up to be conservatives or capitalists. According to Spiral Dynamics however you cant regress back into a lower stage.

Edited June 19, 2018 by MM1988

[MM1988]

whoops i think this should have gone into the self-actualization forum

[White]

43 minutes ago, MM1988 said:

The 1968 movement are THE stereotypical stage green people

Just because you participated in the hippie movement of the late 60's doesn't mean you actually reached the green stage.

 

[MM1988]

11 minutes ago, White said:

Just because you participated in the hippie movement of the late 60's doesn't mean you actually reached the green stage.

 

Why would people who are not at that stage of thinking associate with that community though? 

[White]

@MM1988

According to Ken Wilber a lot of red attended many of the peace demonstrations as a way to stick a middle finger up to the establishment. So that indicates a real mixture of values memes. 

The hippie culture was just a youth culture in the end, it got mainstream. Drugs were a big pull. What else was there to do for a young person who was college educated?

The hippe movement turned into a big party by the time the media got hold of it. 

Just food for thought. There is a danger of thinking the archetypal and almost comical way spiral dynamics portrays the systems is actually how it is. 

There are many exceptions and not everything is clear cut. 

The "hippes movement" is just a way of talking about green..the same way as saying Boulder Colorado is also another way of talking about green. 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

A) Many true hippies from that era remain hippies to this day, and are really into self-actualization and spirituality. Most modern self-help is thanks to the human potential movement of the 60's. Many of today's enlightened teachers were hippies in the 60's. Like Shinzen Young.

B) There was a strong, deliberate crackdown on stage Green by stages Blue and Orange. Capitalism outlawed psychedelics and shut down the counter-culture movement. Because it was a deep threat to capitalism. If the US government did not crack down on the counter-culture revolution and outlaw psychedelics, our culture would be much more evolved today.

C) May of the people partaking of the counter-culture movement were just dabblers. Going to a few music festivals does not mean you're at stage Green in your heart.

Most people today don't recognize how much of an impact the 60's revolution had on modern culture. Its effects can still be felt to this day.