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How To Get From Stage Green To Stage Yellow

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I'm pretty sure I've passed Stage Orange to Stage Green more, as I notice my much more "humanistic" thoughts. Why can't people just accept each other? Why do people have to judge others? Why are people so selfish? And so on. While I slowly made more of an effort to be more kinder, patient and most of all accepting. My old me would just think it's all idealistic hippie bullshit but hey! Life just does stuff.

I have all these idealist compassionate thoughts and feelings running up and not much of an idea on how to put it to use well. People can't all be happy and just accept each other — a hierarchy is necesarry. Some viewpoints are better than others and decisions have to be made about that. I feel a need to make that clear to others. Not with a closemindedness— but with a compassion, a willingness to hear their side and mix the truth of what they're saying — even if most of what they say is wrong.

Yellow seems to allow for more of the understanding needed to know where to maneuver all these energies to something.

I'm hanging around forums like this giving advice more. I'm working on my studies in formal education and informal learning on my own with the intention to use it someday in a life purpose. I've worked with noticing the paradox that Green judges others for judging others but I get the sense that I could do more. A lot more if I could just go deeper to Yellow. 

Any resources? Video, book, blog etc. recommendations? Any ideas? Any advice? Do I have any misconceptions? Any options on topics or experts that I can explore? 

 


“The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” 
― Socrates

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I have heard you guys talk about these stages before, could anyone explain to me what these mean?

@WaterfallMachine Thanks a lot! 

Edited by Max_V

In the depths of winter,
I finally learned that within me 
there lay an invincible summer.

- Albert Camus

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1 minute ago, Max_V said:

I have heard you guys talk about these stages before, could anyone explain to me what these mean?

 

Here you go.

https://www.actualized.org/articles/the-grand-model-of-psychological-evolution

https://personalityhacker.com/podcast-episode-0155-stratified-levels-of-the-graves-model-spiral-dynamics/

 


“The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” 
― Socrates

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@WaterfallMachine When you can embrace and fully accept all the levels of the first tier in yourself, you can begin operating in Yellow.. Be Green as much you can, exhaust Green and all of the stages in you, utilize them all for your life and for your fulfillment. Orange too, Red too. Identifying and relating with all stages is a uncomfortable but also a fun exercise := :P 

Study from direct experience as many different perspectives and paradigmes as possible, while questioning your own perspectives and paradigmes at the same time. Develop big picture thinking from  hundreds and hundreds of different sources, but without emotional attachment to any of them. This is just my personal advice, that I am following myself. :)  This is something that can be done all day err day and it costs nothing :D

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Stage Yellow is all about systems thinking.  Stage Yellow is also enlightened, I don't see how they could not be.

Some ideas that I have collated about systems that might interest you:

1.  Systems are all about balance and harmony.

2.  Systems respond to outside forces in complex ways.

3.  There are no absolute truths for Stage Yellow.  All there is is a bunch of partial perspectives.  And every perspective is partial.

4.  Almost everything can be thought of as a system.  Almost all problems are systemic problems.

5.  Belief in your beliefs is dogma and it's what is holding back every stage below Stage Yellow.

6.  Stage Yellow is ecological in their thinking.

7.  Systems work in counter-intuitive ways.  They don't work in overly simplistic ways.

8.  When there's a larger system at work that we don't understand, this is a cause of failure and problems.

9.  Stage Yellow realizes that life is paradoxical.

10.  Stage Yellow sees the world as perspectives and in shades of grey and sees the world as systems to solve the problems that they care about.

11.  Systems resist you trying to change them.

12.  The dogmatic person, every stage under Stage Yellow, pulls out the pitchfork when somebody offends them or attacks their worldview.  This is an adversarial relationship with reality and life.  Instead of getting defensive, look over what was said and see if there is something there or a way to expand your model or growth to cover the new facts.  Stage Yellow has a robust model of the world.  And Stage Yellow always assumes that they could be wrong and is open-minded.

13.  The ego is a system.

14.  If you feel that your perspective of the world is the Truth, you are not at Stage Yellow.

15.  Stage Yellow sees the world from the perspective of interconnected systems.  These systems interact with each other in interesting and counter-intuitive ways.  The subconscious mind is also a system.  To change a system you have to understand it first to avoid traps.

16.  Think of systems as organisms and meta-organisms.

17.  You are a conflicted system maintaining homeostasis.  By raising awareness, the web of beliefs starts to restructure itself naturally.

18.  When you get angry, stop and look at the big picture.  Your point of view is not the dominant point of view.  So what you judge as evil is not what evil is.  There are no divisions.  Your partition gets encroached upon because it's part of a larger system where encroachment happens.

19.  Systems thinking requires that you start to step outside your self-centered view of the world.  You have to be conscious enough to step outside of your own value system and genuinely care about other beings besides yourself and your tribe.

20.  Systems are non-linear.  This means that they are unpredictable and chaotic.  

21.  Stage Yellow gives up rationalism and absolute truth.

22.  You're a distributed system not a centralized system.

23.  Set realistic, pragmatic expectations regarding making change in your life.  Expect that your subconscious mind and body systems will play tricks on you to resist the  change to maintain homeostasis.

24.  Think of everything as a system.

25.  Problems are systemic and not personal.  Poorly designed systems are creating the problems.

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