This guy is gonna change US politics

[Madyar]

On 11/2/2026 at 2:22 PM, WonderSeeker said:

I recommend watching this interview of Dr. Abdul El-Sayed running for US Senate.

He's young, charismatic, and a great male role-model. He's intelligent, IQ-wise, and displays empathy for those in his community, both through his words and track-record.

He is solid green and I'd dare to say has rays of yellow piercing through in the way he thinks about issues and problem-solving. While he still frames things in terms of corporations vs people (which is mostly accurate green framing on the topic of wealth concentration), it's worth noting he also goes into how he's derived his values and how many of them are principle-based. Plus he campaigns like a fuckin bull and when he wins his Senate seat, he will have earned it.

The part I think many are missing though is he's not just running to be in Congress. If you pay attention to the way he's campaigning and what he's actually talking about, you can see 1) he's thought deeply about America and her problems, 2) he's painting a new, uniting philosophy that regrounds us in the Constitutional Framers' vision, but from our current vantage point, and 3) he actually knows how to market his vision to make it click into voters' realities (which has been a big downfall for 99% of democrats and progressives, post-Obama).

In this very interview he talks about trying not to be ideological itself. Not that he's as good as a mystic at doing it, but it's a breath of fresh air to see a political candidate thinking more in the direction of truth while strongly rejecting corruption and bullshit every chance he gets.

He's got a strong brand and an excellent vision behind it. Plus, he's got real swag. Like, REAL, alpha swag. 

You cant change a whole country with one person, much less do it overnight. But with Abdul I see something different. He goes meta and outside of the box in his thinking.

Religious Yellow, lol. We don't have a single Yellow politician anywhere! I don't know how old you are, but you need to understand that the defining characteristic of Tier 2 – Yellow is that it doesn't even operate through a mechanism of thought, let alone play a role on the front lines of politics. "Yellow" does not think when attempting to provide an answer; rather, the answer emerges before the interlocutor.

This individual is entirely blue, with streaks of orange; perhaps he has only just begun to taste its sweetness.

 

[WonderSeeker]

6 hours ago, Madyar said:

Religious Yellow, lol. We don't have a single Yellow politician anywhere! I don't know how old you are, but you need to understand that the defining characteristic of Tier 2 – Yellow is that it doesn't even operate through a mechanism of thought, let alone play a role on the front lines of politics. "Yellow" does not think when attempting to provide an answer; rather, the answer emerges before the interlocutor.

This individual is entirely blue, with streaks of orange; perhaps he has only just begun to taste its sweetness.

Is this a joke? Blue??

Also, I said he was green.

[Heaven]

When your senator speaks Arabic in his speech, you know you’re fucked.

[Madyar]

4 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:

Is this a joke? Blue??

Also, I said he was green.

I cannot include a religious person in the green sorry. a figure similar to abdul and mamdani appeared in iran back in 1979 and pseudo intellectuals started to call him new gandhi and now look at the situation in there!

Green is where you go beyond religion so in this case abdul is just a progressive religious person.

When you attempt to apply this model to the realm of politics, it is very easy to fall into traps and misunderstandings.

Edited Friday at 10:43 AM by Madyar

[Joshe]

On 11/5/2026 at 5:52 AM, WonderSeeker said:

What you said in bold was word for word what some Fox host said (3:03-3:09).

Yeah, I actually saw that take and thought it was spot on. I don't usually agree with Fox, but I do in this case, lol. Hopefully it's wrong, but we'll see. I'm all for most of his policies, but I don't like the style of denigrating the other side and then being smug about it. We don't need that. We can be assertive and confrontational in a more mature way. 

[WonderSeeker]

19 hours ago, Madyar said:

I cannot include a religious person in the green sorry. a figure similar to abdul and mamdani appeared in iran back in 1979 and pseudo intellectuals started to call him new gandhi and now look at the situation in there!

Green is where you go beyond religion so in this case abdul is just a progressive religious person.

When you attempt to apply this model to the realm of politics, it is very easy to fall into traps and misunderstandings.

Clearly you did not watch the interview. Here it is again.

If you actually watched and listened closely to how he talked about his faith — from 16:24 to 16:50 — here's what you'd find. He spoke about it in trans-blue terms. Uplifting message. Nothing fundamentalist about it.

It's also amusing and interesting that you cherry-picked the faith part when he didn't talk about it for 99.9% of his campaign. Really interesting. 

I'm not going to respond to you again after this because these aren't serious critiques. Spiral Dynamics works in a transcend/include fashion. Once you go beyond blue it doesn't mean you can never talk about faith again any more than going beyond the first grade means you will never do 2+2 again.

Edited yesterday at 06:17 AM by WonderSeeker

[Madyar]

2 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:

Clearly you did not watch the interview. Here it is again.

If you actually watched and listened closely to how he talked about his faith — from 16:24 to 16:50 — here's what you'd find. He spoke about it in trans-blue terms. Uplifting message. Nothing fundamentalist about it.

It's also amusing and interesting that you cherry-picked the faith part when he didn't talk about it for 99.9% of his campaign. Really interesting. 

I'm not going to respond to you again after this because these aren't serious critiques. Spiral Dynamics works in a transcend/include fashion. Once you go beyond blue it doesn't mean you can never talk about faith again any more than going beyond the first grade means you will never do 2+2 again.

I try to use my time very efficiently. As a matter of fact, the very fact that I'm even responding is a courtesy.

The very nature and quality of critiques vary depending on how you perceive yourself and your reality. If you're a US citizen, or simply a fan, and you've chosen this dude either as a senator or as an Inspiring Individual, most likely you're looking for confirmation bias rather than critiques and insights.

Also, your choices come with consequences, and you can only see the real results as time passes.

I'm flexible enough to change my impression of Abdul at any time, but how about you?

Also, what would you prefer to experience as a US citizen? Are you sure you're ready to successfully integrate Arab-world culture into your society? Why? Because some cultures are able to immigrate and integrate into an existing society, while others require the receiving society to make concessions and accommodate them in order to keep society functioning. In this case, Democrats are taking on that responsibility.

What I don't want to see is a continued fight between opposing polarities, each trying to absorb the other. What I want to see is a harmonious dance between them.

 

 

 

 

[WonderSeeker]

17 hours ago, Madyar said:

I try to use my time very efficiently. As a matter of fact, the very fact that I'm even responding is a courtesy.

The very nature and quality of critiques vary depending on how you perceive yourself and your reality. If you're a US citizen, or simply a fan, and you've chosen this dude either as a senator or as an Inspiring Individual, most likely you're looking for confirmation bias rather than critiques and insights.

Also, your choices come with consequences, and you can only see the real results as time passes.

I'm flexible enough to change my impression of Abdul at any time, but how about you?

Also, what would you prefer to experience as a US citizen? Are you sure you're ready to successfully integrate Arab-world culture into your society? Why? Because some cultures are able to immigrate and integrate into an existing society, while others require the receiving society to make concessions and accommodate them in order to keep society functioning. In this case, Democrats are taking on that responsibility.

What I don't want to see is a continued fight between opposing polarities, each trying to absorb the other. What I want to see is a harmonious dance between them.

Much better, I appreciate this take.

I'm gonna be transparent: I'm a New Yorker currently living in China. So, I watched this election from the outside. 

I don't consider myself a "fan" of Abdul because I hate the idea of treating politics like sports and politicians like celebrities. I think that's a childish way to orient oneself to this very serious sphere of reality.

The reason I consider Abdul a role-model however, is because I'm currently working on my own character. There are things about my way of relating to society and people I'm not proud of, and so I'm looking to people who face society constantly and seeing which ones I resonate with the most. (I got this idea from Teal Swan in an interview she did on Instagram; she said to pick a male role model and to reverse engineer the principles of what make them great).

For me my main role models are Peter Ralston, Abraham Lincoln, and Abdul (I deliberately chose him because he's young, brave, intelligent, well-spoken, strong, and has been a servant in his community. I want to emulate some of those qualities myself).

Furthermore, I think he's a great role model in general relative to the MAGA 'comedian' hacks, podcast bros, and people like JD Vance. The right got an overwhelming majority of the vote from young men in 2024; for me young men are looking for answers in a messy world where social contracts are breaking down, and Abdul represents a better vision than what we got before. 

On the issue of cultural integration, that's something I haven't thought about all that much. Is that what Abdul talked about on the campaign trail? Just because the senator is Muslim doesn't mean he's gonna enact Muslim laws or make the culture Muslim (that was the fear-mongering we got from the opposing campaign, which I think I pure nonsense). You can tell me if I'm missing something but that's not what the campaign was about on paper.

I know Europe is having trouble as they are receiving the brunt of Middle Eastern immigration with little integration. I'm not too familiar with the issue in it's full context but I will say too much a foreign populous in a new place too fast does spell trouble. But again, is Abdul calling for a migration to Michigan or putting Arabic all over the place? I want to know what you mean by your point.

(For context, I'm a descendant of 1910s Middle East immigration fleeing genocide; had the U.S. not been an open society I wouldn't be typing this).

As far as I know the issues he's mainly looking to deliver on are healthcare, ending the wars, and increasing wages. The question is will he channel his efforts into that. And who'll the congress be robust enough to get papers on the President's desk. And will those papers translate into new laws and systems that benefit people? 

Again, we will see. But this looks like a much better way forward than before. Even relative to previous democratic congresses (looking at the bigger picture: e.g., 2008, 2020).

Once again, good response and I'm willing to continue and learn from this discussion in this fashion.

[PenguinPablo]

On 11/6/2026 at 0:57 AM, Heaven said:

When your senator speaks Arabic in his speech, you know you’re fucked.

This is not a substantive argument. Not even close.