being invited to clubs

[Olaf]

I have had many times with my wingmen that we got invited to go to clubs by girls that we approached. I wonder if this is a good thing or not, one time they wanted to kidnap my wingmen into the club hahaha. But I see this many times even in a few seconds. But then I wonder, is that because they want free drinks or truely attracted? 

Edited 8 hours ago by Olaf

[Valach]

Just go there if you want to go there. Stop strategizing so much.

[LordFall]

I would recommend trying it a few times but more than likely you'll realize it's a bad idea. Better to invite women to your events than to come out to the club with them. It will leave you in a reactive frame where also she'll probably subconsciously or intentionally put you against other guys she knows or random dudes that come up to hit on her. If you've been gaming a lot then you might be able to meet other women there and merge sets and use the opposite effect on her but either way you start off at a disadvantage.

It's not a bad thing to experiments with environments that don't favor you but in general you obviously should build a social life that works for your goals and not against them. 

[Olaf]

@LordFall good one, yeah you basically are stepping into her frame and world instead of you leading the way. Yes yesterday we went with them and it wasn't that bad, not asking for drinks or anything, but still I like to lead the way rather then being lead somewhere and step into someone elses frame. Thanks for your perspective. 

[Valach]

Just now, Olaf said:

@LordFall good one, yeah you basically are stepping into her frame and world instead of you leading the way. Yes yesterday we went with them and it wasn't that bad, not asking for drinks or anything, but still I like to lead the way rather then being lead somewhere and step into someone elses frame. Thanks for your perspective. 

See the nuance here. You even thinking about it is you being in her frame. The whole frame control think is essentially a loosing game.

[Olaf]

@Valach frame is important

[Zenterus]

This is a win win situation if you play it right. I recommend you go with them as LordFall said and use them as social proof at least to help you with other girls. Dont buy them drinks and if they start flirting with other men or trying to get you compete with them, tell yourself that she has now been friendzoned, in your mind, and get them to approach new sets with you or just go off to a new girl and start talking to her (the social proof will make the set open a lot easier).

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Valach said:

See the nuance here. You even thinking about it is you being in her frame. The whole frame control think is essentially a loosing game.

There is a difference between being stuck in your head constantly overanalyzing social situations vs having an overall strategy for your dating life. Joining girls on nights out a few times and having fun is fine. Then I would suggest to sit down and think on whether you enjoyed it as it is or do you like bringing girls into your life more.

To me catering the environment overtime makes much more sense and makes it possible to justify socializing continuously since I also build value for the ecosystems I'm building as opposed to just using socializing to blow off steam or to to pull women.

I hosted a content mastermind a few months ago and it was both a fun way to meet new chicks and also it helped my agency and community. About a month before that I went out for drinks which chicks that invited me out and it was fine and fun but the ROI was much lower. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Olaf]

@Zenterus right so use them as wing woman