Life is the meaning of life.

[Breakingthewall]

On 28/10/2026 at 5:07 AM, integral said:

When existence happened, it was the most valuable, most meaningful, and purposeful thing that could possibly have happened at that moment.

It was the only thing that "happened".

and it "happened", Happening is a miracle.

How can this intelligent specific miracle be anything other then the most meaningful thing that could be happening?

Is anything more meaningful happening right this moment? No, this is it.

It's the most valuable thing that there is, It's absolute, so it's absolute value.

It's quite easy to explain reality through basic logic. First, existence does not arise; it exists. Arising implies a timeline and causality, and both are possibilities of existence, not higher parameters to which existence is subject.

The only thing you can say about existence is that it exists or that it's limitless, both are synonyms; anything else is an aspect of reality, not its foundation.

The only cause that can be inferred to explain the absolute fact of being is the absence of limits, and this is not something, but the lack of something. Any possible limit would exist, so it would be something inside existence, not outside. Nothing is external to the absolute fact of being, since non-being is not.

Regarding whether existence is valuable, "valuable" is an evaluation that occurs within existence, so it cannot define the absolute, it is completely meaningless at that level.

This entire logical system is essential to avoid trapping the mind in local paradigms that would prevent true openness to the absolute.

[Breakingthewall]

On 29/10/2026 at 4:09 AM, VeganAwake said:

Nothing matters because when you die, there will no longer be a you that ever knew it existed in the first place.

Every living organism dies, so for every current living organism, nothing ultimately matters!

Well, who knows, perhaps right now we are living in a multidimensional reality, in exactly 723 simultaneous dimensions, and in 200 of them right now you are getting hit on the penis with a hammer every time you say "nothing matters" in the current dimension.

An interdimensional demon is giving it to you and right after says to you: "It doesn't matter, right? Well, let me give you another hammer blow." All your others interdimensional self are just now screaming: stop! Everything matters! Pleas!!! But you can't listen them because your mind is absolutely trapped about that invented paradigm that you chose to feel emotionaly stable. Poor interdimensional selfs, I'm trying to help them but it's useless.

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, who knows, perhaps right now we are living in a multidimensional reality, in exactly 723 simultaneous dimensions, and in 200 of them right now you are getting hit on the penis with a hammer every time you say "nothing matters" in the current dimension.

An interdimensional demon is giving it to you and right after says to you: "It doesn't matter, right? Well, let me give you another hammer blow." All your others interdimensional self are just now screaming: stop! Everything matters! Pleas!!! But you can't listen them because your mind is absolutely trapped about that invented paradigm that you chose to feel emotionaly stable. Poor interdimensional selfs, I'm trying to help them but it's useless.

I'm sure you are dealing with this first and foremost.  

[Breakingthewall]

42 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I'm sure you are dealing with this first and foremost.  

Yes for me it's like a mission, if I can't show him his mistake my others interdimensional self are going to get non dualistic robots repeating that the self in a illusion for all the eternity, it's essential to succeed, but seems impossible 

[Psychonaut]

On 10/27/2026 at 7:28 PM, integral said:

This feels really self-evident, So I'm asking this question to see if there's a bias I'm missing."

When you remove all beliefs, all stories like that your mother gave birth to you. If you remove every possible story about your life, about everything, you deconstruct everything and you go back to just staring at your hand or staring at a table, with just with nothing going on. Completely back to a blank slate.

it Is self-evident, that the reason you exist, the purpose and meaning of your existence is to exist.

This existence, this moment, what's happening right now, is the reason, the meaning, and the purpose of your life and existence.

Now, this is extremely obvious to me, so I'm asking, am I completely delusional?

I don't know if this took an awakening to understand. And I just forgot when it happened. But if you try to explain this to anyone, they are 100% unable to understand what you're saying. 

They say some story like "there is no meaning to life" or you're here to learn something.

No. You exist right now and that's the point. There's no other point... There is no esoteric meaning, there is no higher purpose meaning, there is no fantasy and story meaning that you're searching for. But there is an ontological meaning.

Yes. Can you define what you mean by ontological meaning? An esoteric-meaning is made up by definition of the word. Is the ontological-meaning one step up then?

[Psychonaut]

On 10/28/2026 at 5:20 PM, Nemra said:

What is the primary reason programmers create software applications?

Love for the world and to print money

[Psychonaut]

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, who knows, perhaps right now we are living in a multidimensional reality, in exactly 723 simultaneous dimensions, and in 200 of them right now you are getting hit on the penis with a hammer every time you say "nothing matters" in the current dimension.

An interdimensional demon is giving it to you and right after says to you: "It doesn't matter, right? Well, let me give you another hammer blow." All your others interdimensional self are just now screaming: stop! Everything matters! Pleas!!! But you can't listen them because your mind is absolutely trapped about that invented paradigm that you chose to feel emotionaly stable. Poor interdimensional selfs, I'm trying to help them but it's useless.

That sounds about right. It is just a few more dimensions than that (1024^3) depending on which mind is used .....

Edited 18 hours ago by Psychonaut

[integral]

On 10/28/2026 at 11:09 PM, VeganAwake said:

Nothing matters because when you die, there will no longer be a you that ever knew it existed in the first place.

6 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Yes. Can you define what you mean by ontological meaning? An esoteric-meaning is made up by definition of the word. Is the ontological-meaning one step up then?

Being is itself value, rather than something that needs an external purpose to acquire value.

The absolute ontological meaning of a cup would be its existence; and its relative meaning would be what it does (contains things) or how we feel about it (i love this cup).

• Relative meaning: The cup holds water.
• Subjective meaning: I love this cup.
• Instrumental value: The cup is useful for something.
• Ontological meaning: The cup exists.

When we talk about meaning ontologically, we are talking about existence.

The point of existence is what? To exist.

What's happening is people are saying im projecting meaning, value, and purpose onto existence. That the question is loaded and wrong from the start.

What I find funny about all that is that whenever they experience any kind of oneness or awakening experience, every psychedelic experience Or stillness, calmness or any nessness. what is their way of thinking about it?

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Does that sound meaningless, valueless, purposeless to you?

Of course not.

So why would they doing this? Its because they're following the logic of deconstruction and non-duality and when you deconstruct everything there's just existence. knowing is content on the screen, Understanding is content on the screen... and so on. 

• Logic: existence is not meaningful or meaningless. These are Appearances on the screen.
• Direct Experience: Existence is Highly personal, highly important, highly meaningful, infinite value.

Non-duality is epistemically wrong.

Edited 11 hours ago by integral

[Psychonaut]

53 minutes ago, integral said:

Being is itself value, rather than something that needs an external purpose to acquire value.

The absolute ontological meaning of a cup would be its existence; and its relative meaning would be what it does (contains things) or how we feel about it (i love this cup).

• Relative meaning: The cup holds water.
• Subjective meaning: I love this cup.
• Instrumental value: The cup is useful for something.
• Ontological meaning: The cup exists.

When we talk about meaning ontologically, we are talking about existence.

The point of existence is what? To exist.

What's happening is people are saying im projecting meaning, value, and purpose onto existence. That the question is loaded and wrong from the start.

What I find funny about all that is that whenever they experience any kind of oneness or awakening experience, every psychedelic experience Or stillness, calmness or any nessness. what is their way of thinking about it?

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Does that sound meaningless, valueless, purposeless to you?

Of course not.

So why would they doing this? Its because they're following the logic of deconstruction and non-duality and when you deconstruct everything there's just existence. knowing is content on the screen, Understanding is content on the screen... and so on. 

• Logic: existence is not meaningful or meaningless. These are Appearances on the screen.
• Direct Experience: Existence is Highly personal, highly important, highly meaningful, infinite value.

Non-duality is epistemically wrong.

Beautifully and eloquently put. I love it! 

[Breakingthewall]

Reality manifests as existence, and existence is relative and dynamic. What exists does so in relation to another.

But reality is not existence; rather, existence is how reality appears. Reality is something else, it is a step back from existence, you could say that it is limitlessness. One could say that limitlessness and being are synonymous, because the limitless is, since nothing restricts it, but they are two different aspects.

Being is affirmative, immutable, brilliant. Reality is profound, in fact it is unfathomable depth. Opening yourself up to the unfathomable is terrifying because it is confused with death and emptiness, but it is the source of life. In the unfathomable lies what lives, or rather, the unfathomable lives, and when life opens up to itself, that is when the prodigal son returns after his pilgrimage through the dead desert.

Clean, pure, brilliant being, Sat-Chit-Ananda, is still closed, since it is only a verb, an action, the fact of being. Beyond being, the unfathomable emptiness opens up; it is the essence, the totality, life.

Every human has access within themselves to the living source, indescribable. Totally impossible to put into words. Being can be spoken of, structured, understood. The source cannot, you can be open to it. that means don't blocking it, don't blocking the total perception of yourself. 

[Breakingthewall]

The matter of being seems banal, but it is not; being emptied of everything is one facet, the reality is and is not. What is not, does not exist, yet it is nonetheless real.

It is absolute potential, and being open to it is not about knowing that absolute potential exists, but about perceiving living reality, your ultimate nature. They called it tao, seems a good term. 

[DMM710]

On 10/27/2026 at 2:32 PM, Leo Gura said:

Well, if you want to be really rigorous, you don't actually know that there is no higher purpose. What if God gave you life for some higher purpose you have not yet discovered?

Just because you feel no purpose now does not mean there isn't some higher purpose to your existence.

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