Powerful analogy for understanding reality.

[Majed]

Consciousness is like a screen projector, it depicts whatever movie/reality you imagine. 
If you're a christian it's gonna depict a christian movie/reality. If you're a muslim it's gonna depict a muslim movie/reality. And so on it goes... 
Awakening is to realize the nature of it all being a movie, a play, within God's infinite mind and imagination. 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Majed said:

If you're a christian it's gonna depict a christian movie/reality. If you're a muslim it's gonna depict a muslim movie/reality. And so on it goes... 

Yes! That's the rub.

[Sugarcoat]

This makes it sound as if the persons mind is what creates their entire sense of reality

Edited October 16 by Sugarcoat

[Majed]

59 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

This makes it sound as if the persons mind is what creates their entire sense of reality

@Sugarcoat That's literally the case yes. 

But it's not just their "sense of reality", it's their reality period. 

And here's the twist, since reality and consciousness are infinite, there isn't one correct reality. It's infinite. However some realities capture more of infinite consciousness than others. 

[Sugarcoat]

27 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Sugarcoat That's literally the case yes. 

But it's not just their "sense of reality", it's their reality period. 

And here's the twist, since reality and consciousness are infinite, there isn't one correct reality. It's infinite. However some realities capture more of infinite consciousness than others. 

Depends on what is meant by mind, I agree the mind, specifically as in the mind ego structure, has huge influence on how reality is perceived. But its doesn't determine all of a persons direct experience, people have access to perception beyond the filtering of their minds. It's too simplistic to say otherwise imo, especially when the mind seems to be spoken in way that excludes energy, the base sense of contracted self, emotion, etc.....

Sense of reality = their reality, pretty much saying the same thing here imo

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[Leo Gura]

@Majed It is still possible to be deluded and wrong within one's own reality.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura Admitting that one is wrong leads to an evolution and a reality change at the ontological level. Because delusion ultimately doesn't exist. It's consciousness broadening. 

Here's the deepest explanation on whether christianity is true or not that you'll ever hear: 
‎So, is christianity true ? 
‎Yes, it is totally true! From the perspective of christians. 
‎What you have to appreciate about truth or realness is that truth and reality is a relativistic, perspectival system. 
‎Here's the thing: reality is infinite consciousness. Therefore no one perspective or point of view will ever capture reality entirely, reality and truth is forever unframable. You can't frame reality, any attempt to do so will create a pseudo reality which will be entirely real for the framer. That's what christianity is! 
‎Is christianity true ? Yes, it is entirely real. 
‎Is christianity ultimately true? Yes and no, in the sense that if you're a devout christian, it is ultimately true for you, and your community. 
‎However it isn't the only truth possible, islam is also a possible truth, which is entirely true for muslims, atheism and naturalism are entirely true for atheists and naturalists and so on...
‎What you have to appreciate is the complex relativism at play here. Which makes every perspective entirely true, and partially true as well depending on the perspective. 
‎Now certain perspectives are higher than christianity, others are lower. In the sense that they frame more or less of reality. It's very paradoxical, twisted and complex. 
‎Think of it this way: is the perspective of a dog true? Obviously yes! 
‎Is the perspective of a human true and higher than that of a dog? Obviously yes!
‎That's evolution right there! Consciousness framing or capturing more of itself. 
‎You can't say a dog's perspective is less true than that of a human, but you can say that the perspective of a human is higher than that of a dog. 

[Leo Gura]

@Majed Okay, good. you are actually using your brain.

[Thought Art]

@Majed I think that’s not true. Christianity isn’t true. 
 

If you left your keys at home but were SURE you brought them, doesn’t make it true. 
 

I think what your saying is post modern. 
 

Not all perspectives are true. Sure they may be actual in that they exist. But, that’s no measure of truthfulness or accurate representation of reality. 
 

I am not sure a dogs perspective compared to a humans translates to a Christian vs say, Leo. That they are all true. 
 

A dog doesn’t have a belief in things which don’t exist generally. It’s a simple creature that doesn’t really have a world view to defend. 
 

But, comparing humans perspectives is different because we are all sense making with similar brains. 
 

A scientists who believes marshmallows are orange is simply wrong if they are white. His perspective may be actual, but it’s not true. 
 

I spoke to a schizophrenic who thought he was a top secret agent. He wasn’t, his perspective was false. It was actual, but I would not use the word true in English.

 

Now, if I am a Christian will I view the world as a Christian? Yes I will. But to me that’s not a matter of truthfulness. That’s like a frame, or operating system. That’s all accurate to me. To me that’s the problem of identity, because if being a Christian is your top value your whole life then TRUTH Isn’t your highest value and your whole life is then lived in falsehood because you don’t care about truth… you care about your pet religion. 
 

Also, we don’t have proof every Christian views the world as a Christian. We are assuming. I know that sounds odd but a label is shallow. Human minds  are messy and complex. It may not be "ultimately True" but safe, and sure. You may have deep doubts but fail to explore them. 

Edited October 16 by Thought Art