Changing our Minds about Nonduality

[VeganAwake]

This is what the meaning of "nonduality" attempts to point out.

[VeganAwake]

Nonduality says everything is included without stipulation.

[VeganAwake]

Nonduality says there's nothing outside of it to point back to it.

Edited 9 hours ago by VeganAwake

[Mellowmarsh]

29 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

It's not a process, it's a recognition.

Nothing has to happen.

It's not a state, it's already everything.

The mind doesn't need to empty.

The structure doesn't have to disolve.

Its ok to feel like a well needing to be filled.

Seeking can still occur or not.

You don't need to be a gushing spring, but that can seemingly happen also.

Nobody figures out reality. 

Its not a special exclusive state or an understanding about everything. 

How could everything be understood?

It's everything exactly as it already is.

It's unconditional.

Nothing needs happen but anything can happen.

It's both this and that simultaneously.

Enlightenment is already THIS.

It's not a narrow moment.

It's THIS right here.

This is enough, perfect in every which way.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You are exactly that, this is not an idea or a realization, is an openness of something that was closed. 

That analysis is total subterfuge, false and misleading. It’s another ego trap. 

That was meant for Breakingthewall. Not Wilhelm44

I quoted Breakingthewall post but as you can see this website is difficult to use, it’s got a mind of its own, apparently.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That analysis is total subterfuge, false and misleading. It’s another ego trap. 

 

Somehow it has my name above that quote that you are referring to, but I think it was Breakingthewall who said that.

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Somehow it has my name above that quote that you are referring to, but I think it was Breakingthewall who said that.

I’ve just explained why. You’ve not read yet?

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

I’ve just explained why. You’ve not read yet?

I missed it by a nano second

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I missed it by a nano second

Yeah sorry. 

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

Yeah sorry. 

no worries

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I missed it by a nano second

Just be careful with Breakingthewall it’s ideas are full of subterfuge.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

Just be careful with Breakingthewall it’s ideas are full of subterfuge.

Thank you

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you

One prime example of subterfuge by Breakingthewall 

listen to this statement… “ You are exactly that, this is not an idea or a realization, is a openness of something that was closed. “

 

See, if this is not an idea or realisation,  openess could never have been something that was closed. This kind of communication just rings blah blah it makes zero sense.

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

One prime example of subterfuge by Breakingthewall 

listen to this statement… “ You are exactly that, this is not an idea or a realization, is a openness of something that was closed. “

 

See, if this is not an idea or realisation,  openess could never have been something that was closed. This kind of communication just rings blah blah it makes zero sense.

Yeah, I hear you, I missed that, thank you.

[Wilhelm44]

13 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This actually looks quite interesting, going to check it out, thanks.

[Mellowmarsh]

25 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

This actually looks quite interesting, going to check it out, thanks.

Yes and just think about it, what is reality ? The answer is likened to an unwritten book, where thoughts crystalise into a symbolic story which is inseparable from the book that no one wrote, only read. 
 

 

 

[Wilhelm44]

17 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes and just think about it, what is reality ? The answer is likened to an unwritten book, where thoughts crystalise into a symbolic story which is inseparable from the book that no one wrote, only read. 
 

 

 

That's really beautiful and magical, thank you.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

That's really beautiful and magical, thank you.

You’re welcome. 😇 

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

It's not a process, it's a recognition

It's not a recognition, because any recognition would be just a mental realization. For example, you could realize that people is selfish or that your motivation to be an engineer is self image, or that you are gay, to give some examples. 

But this realizations could dissolve some barriers that your psyche built in order to preserve is stability, and when a barrier falls, what was contented by this barrier manifest. 

Then, when all barriers fall, what is absolute manifest. Many barriers are innate, created by evolution in order to survive and operate as a hive being, and in order to survive in a hostile environment. 

Maybe someone could think that there are no more barriers, but there is an elephant in the room. That's why meditation, passing time alone observing with the will to open up and see make those barriers clear. Humility is needed, but it's very common having the need of being arrived. 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

One prime example of subterfuge by Breakingthewall 

listen to this statement… “ You are exactly that, this is not an idea or a realization, is a openness of something that was closed. “

 

See, if this is not an idea or realisation,  openess could never have been something that was closed. This kind of communication just rings blah blah it makes zero sense.

 

your comments are offensive and full of need of putting down that contradict your beliefs learned about non duality, same than talking with a fundamentalist. There is violence in your speech. 

For example, someone expose a very elaborate tesis and your response is: that's bullshit, blah blah. Ok, maybe you need insulting people who contradicts your religion, but would be good that you change those insults by an elaborate argumentation to explain why that tesis is wrong 

Look, let's see if you understand this. If someone says anything, responding: that's bullshit and you are an idiot, is not a response, is what a kid does to defend their need of stability. Do you understand?