Humans were never meant to wake up from the dream

[Jehovah increases]

God has been sleeping, not always awake, and that is not the only existence of God.

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

God has been sleeping, not always awake, and that is not the only existence of God.

Okay if that’s your truth there, that’s fine by me. 
 

 

[Jehovah increases]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

Okay if that’s your truth there, that’s fine by me. 
 

 

Same!

[Mellowmarsh]

So God has been sleeping and hasn’t always been awake, and the dream isn’t only Gods existence. You heard it here.

[Jehovah increases]

No, God has been sleeping, and he is awake; the dream is only one aspect of itself.

[Jehovah increases]

What I meant was that humans were never to wake up, but God was meant to awaken at the right time.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

No, God has been sleeping, and he is awake; the dream is only one aspect of itself.

Okay.
 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Jehovah increases said:

What I meant was that humans were never to wake up, but God was meant to awaken at the right time.

Okay. 

 

[Hyperion]

4 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I’ve watched the first 10 minutes and how I’m interpreting what he is saying is that the absolute is already the totality of everything that is was and ever will be, which has no opposite because any opposite would be relative to the absolute that already is making the relational illusory.

Well, I would perhaps word it slightly differently and  say that any relative opposite(s) must necessarily be included in the absolute totality of reality, meaning that all opposites are in fact real. So what we call "illusions" are simply specific definable parts or aspects of reality... nothing more, nothing less.

(Again, check out my thread titled "What Are Illusions" for a somewhat more in-depth breakdown of this.)

4 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That’s why I mentioned humans were never meant to wake up to the illusion of separation, because it would only reveal their illusory existence to them.

Which would be a bad thing because...?

4 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

They’d simply come to know they don’t exist in the way they thought they did, so I’m thinking it’s better that they didn’t transcend their illusory nature.

Why?

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Hyperion

[Mellowmarsh]

@Hyperion I get it, the illusion is absolutely real. I’m not in any doubt about this.

 

Words are being worded differently, but so what.

You ask me WHY I don’t think humans should wake up.

My answer is clear… how about addressing the “PAIN” issue, it’s just absolutely painful to be aware you are conscious, and it’s doubly painful knowing you never actually existed in the first place to be aware you are conscious, and waking up to that realisation is a catch 22 trap no one can escape from. It’s the worse joke ever on a huge cosmic scale.

Think of all the misery and suffering for nature and human, it’s barbarism and brutal. Humans have become desensitised to it, it’s all very normal they’ll say, it’s just what it is, get over it. They’re mostly okay with it. 

 

But are they okay, why else do humans begin to ponder the meaning to their existence, why do they pursue a spiritual journey in search of absolute truth, why them and not dogs and cats, is it because they fundamentally sense their own powerlessness and lack of control in every aspect of their lives that triggers an insatiable need to fill the aching gaping gap of not knowing anything or consenting to anything, and this powerlessness starts to consume every corner of their mind growing increasingly deeper and deeper chasms that must be filled in the hunger to belong to some form of super supernatural spiritual other worldly “higher truth” that they can at least feel satiated by, at least for awhile to keep the illusion of being satisfied alive, to distract them for awhile from a reality they’d rather not look at, even though they know deep down that they are just deluding themselves into believing there is a higher purpose even if it is only a false sense of security. Believe a lie is better than coming to terms with the brutal truth. 

 

Most true philosophers of history past and present day knew about this existential dread as the curse of being conscious and subsequently lived solitary meaningless and pointless lives in quiet desperation as they were in no way shape or form in denial of acknowledging this the truth of no answers, that’s why they became philosophers, they chose to face the abyss head on rather than just dismissing it as though it wasn’t there.

This rambling is just my opinion, I’m not speaking for others here, only myself,  we’re all different, but this is my truth that’s all, no one has to agree. I’m just saying it as I personally see it, unapologetically. I adamantly admit that I know absolutely nothing. I’m just reporting my surround as I witness it directly. Nor do I know anything existing that is higher than that of my own human sentient awareness, and I can live with that not knowing. I don’t know who or what or why anything is happening at all, and I know I never will know. So I just accept it now.

[Wilhelm44]

13 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I’m saying that our true nature is to watch ourself experience the good the bad and the ugly, the whole enchilada in fact. And there’s nothing we can do about any of it, except watch forever infinitely for eternity. Nothing can stop it because nothing started it. But we endure and that’s the remarkable thing about it. It’s enduringly endurable otherwise it wouldn’t be happening.

And it feels like the suffering of humanity is going to reach some kind of a peak in the next few years.

Even with all this radical nonduality stuff, I still have this devotional aspect, where I like to pray sometimes. 

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And it feels like the suffering of humanity is going to reach some kind of a peak in the next few years.

Even with all this radical nonduality stuff, I still have this devotional aspect, where I like to pray sometimes. 

You’re right, and right now I’m just feeling comfortably numb. I trust the process that knows how to live and die, I just have to relinquish all my resistance to it, and I can, and will, and do. I’m not scared anymore.

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You’re right, and right now I’m just feeling comfortably numb. I trust the process that knows how to live and die, I just have to relinquish all my resistance to it, and I can, and will, and do. I’m not scared anymore.

May you be infinitely blessed dear one.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

May you be infinitely blessed dear one.

Right back at you. 🙂

[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Right back at you. 🙂

Thank you 

(just out of curiosity, how come you're not making videos like Suzanne Chang for example, I really think you'd be brilliant at it.) You often say things in a way that i dont hear others speak.

Edited 4 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Heaven]

14 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

In what sense could waking up be like a curse ?

When you realize and embody your true Self it hinders survival. 
Also this entire dream was created to explore and experience it. God’s plan.

At the end of the day you’re living a human life.

Edited 4 hours ago by Heaven

[Heaven]

@Mellowmarsh

I’ve been contemplating your post for a long time and I tend to agree 

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Heaven said:

When you realize and embody your true Self it hinders survival. 

At the end of the day you’re living a human life.

My sense is that life will use you in some way.

You won't just be sitting on a park bench forever.

Edited 4 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Mellowmarsh]

17 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you 

(just out of curiosity, how come you're not making videos like Suzanne Chang for example, I really think you'd be brilliant at it.) You often say things in a way that i dont hear others speak.

Honestly, I’m just too lazy. Leaving these morsels of truth on a forum for the entire world to read is my limit. It’s just another way of reaching out to the masses, if only a small way, but I prefer to be small these days. 

[Mellowmarsh]

12 minutes ago, Heaven said:

@Mellowmarsh

I’ve been contemplating your post for a long time and I tend to agree 

👍 Thanks. 
 

It’s difficult to look in the mirror sometimes we don’t always like what we see, but it’s all there is to see, and cannot be unseen.