Ego sneaking in the back door of new higher self

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, Just stories made of empty words. From empty bodies "empty vessels make the most noise," meaning loud talk or constant sound can lack deep meaning, truth, or substance.

Behind which remains the vastly deep silent unknowable. 

Um  hum.  Thanks.  

[kavaris]

This is somethin i was thinkin bout ~In regards to the idea of something like ego, Sneaking  through, And that is how, say we were talking about [sense] perception, or a similar topic, and how our most recent perspectives shift the fabric of what we believe. And then you introduce that idea, And we have two ideas, one regarding perception -but on a subject matter that- on its surface, seems like the most reasonable, pragmatic of the two — Then you have this other thing, this psychedelic realm, where things like ego get dissolved (something like that) which is itself a topic that, in the least, interferes w/ the fabric of beliefs.

I want to know what THAT is, that change of blood, in the most absolute sense, cause THAT change over is, in effect, pure chaos, cause you cant win in either direction, right?... If you view it from the truth of this psychedelic thing, its becoming more psychedelic, if you view it as this other thing its changing to this other thing... My point is that, the very question of "what is reality" or what we are, it is predicated on the belief in things, and those most-recent ideas dominate everything else, regardless, And even in finding truth, or how its working, the only thing you could ever do is to try to understand  "WHAT it is,  WHILE it is"

Its a collapse in meaning, but its still somewhat functioning, in an absolute sense, in the very least.

Edited 1 hour ago by kavaris

[AION]

Most people use this buzz words like ego, while everybody has their own definition of ego. Thus most of these discussions are fruitless because of these word salads and beating around the bush.

Edited 1 hour ago by AION

[kavaris]

I rarely use ego uniformly, And i mostly edge on, just, getting straight to business, however...

Ego in its most basic form, is synonymous to that archaic form of the pleasure (not over abundance), like its what the ancient peoples wanted to talk about, fused w/ something like, the pursuit of, like theres also something sacred to the ego (i) or Being, so it has a spectrumy-thing to it, granted i personally dont always view it as "egoic personality", but one function for ego is to frame it as, the most negative parts of a person, or something like that. I personally dont find myself engaging on that lvl either, so i dont ever bring it up (in that way), still, the ego in a uniform sense does atleast have elements we can relate to, for its the same w/ most words, it depends on context, what we are talking about... Like, can we point to a landmark that makes enough sense, so that the words can start to make sense. I mean all words suffer from this dilemma as well.

Edited 58 minutes ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

I mean, generally, English has this little quark (or it tends to have this quark, maybe its around 90% of words that can lean in one direction or the other, have this quark in English) where everything is made to be negative, or its chosen to lean further to negative in those cases, is wat im tryina say. Which, granted, we can make things "make sense" with, or without that negative connotation.

Edited 51 minutes ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

Like, in other words, its rare that we, as the active developers of English, actively shape an older and, pre existing word, to be the positive thing it once was, Like if it can lean negative, we are like "Yes. Press the button. submit". Like...