An objection to NDEs

[Hojo]

12 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

It could be that NDE is just a transitory stage before the real deal. But I get what you're saying, no dreams have more reality than others.

I think whatever is manifesting reality is buried far beneath the human conscious mind. It's a terrifying thought to think that my own consciousness could potentially lock me in hell forever.

Its not scary if you know. You go to hell and fight Satan. Instead of being scared you get courageous.

People don't realize but alot of our fears come from our dreams. Life is perfect but we have a nightmare and then we enter a new degree of energy that seems scary but its our own energy.

We fall from grace because of our dreams.

Edited 6 hours ago by Hojo

[Meeksauce]

21 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Its not scary if you know. You go to hell and fight Satan. Instead of being scared you get courageous.

People don't realize but alot of our fears come from our dreams. Life is perfect but we have a nightmare and then we enter a new degree of energy that seems scary but its our own energy.

We fall from grace because of our dreams.

It might not be scary now, but if it was you on that torture rack, you would experience a limitless indescribable amount of fear.

[Someone here]

The way to heaven passes through hell.

 

[Oppositionless]

I know some addict who had nde and got sober after . 

[Meeksauce]

2 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

I know some addict who had nde and got sober after . 

Did he tell you what happened?

[Hojo]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

It might not be scary now, but if it was you on that torture rack, you would experience a limitless indescribable amount of fear.

Then after its over you are stronger.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[Oppositionless]

37 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

Did he tell you what happened?

That he floated above his body and the car wreck from above saw them then looked up and saw the center of the universe .

[Meeksauce]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

Then after its over you are stronger.

More like driven absolutely insane to the fullest extent. Nobody's mind would survive that.

[Hojo]

@Meeksauce your mind has already been there before. We've probably been to hell if it exists, 1000s of times. We are eternal.

[Willy Phallicus]

4 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

Of course a lot are going to be, as you said, but when someone has truly been traumatized and is sobbing their eyes out on camera that becomes much harder to fake.

It could be faked though.  Not every real account is from a traumatized person either.

I'm just biased on the matter.  Maybe 1 in 25 NDE stories is a real account containing a seed or two of truth someone would find useful or helpful.